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SHRlKE
04/16/24 6:42:50 AM
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Puzzle 001: ...What!
Type: Comedy Sudoku
Link: https://sudokupad.app/yiaonocy5d

Rules
- Normal 6x6 sudoku rules apply.
- Each digit in a circle indicates how many times that digit appears in a circle in the puzzle.
- Digits strictly never appear more than once in a cage.
- Cells separated by an X sum to 10. Not all possible Xs are given.
- Grey lines are palindromes, i.e. digits equidistant from a grey line's center are always the same.
- Those are all the rules. Do not forget any of them.

Notes
And we're back! Starting off with a fun puzzle I saw on CTC the few days ago. Make sure you read the rules thoroughly!

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thisworld
04/16/24 7:13:24 AM
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What do [16], [4], and [3 4 4 3] on board mean? The rules didn't mention any of them.
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KainWind
04/16/24 9:13:22 AM
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thisworld posted...
What do [16], [4], and [3 4 4 3] on board mean? The rules didn't mention any of them.

I haven't done this one yet but it looks like an intentionally misleading ruleset for people who have done a hundred of these with similar rules.

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SHRlKE
04/16/24 9:33:56 AM
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KainWind posted...
I haven't done this one yet but it looks like an intentionally misleading ruleset for people who have done a hundred of these with similar rules.

Aye thats it

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Mega_Mana
04/16/24 10:30:00 AM
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I solved it, but I don't know how.

At first, I was hung up on the Cage, unable to make 16 without completely getting blocked by Sudoku. Then I realized the Cage rule doesn't care about numbers, and things went well from there.

Then I got to where I had all the fours and twos in the puzzle, but had a bunch of 1-3 and 5-6 pairs that I couldn't see how they'd be differentiated. I thought maybe it was a part of the joke that any of the four combinations left would work, plugged in numbers, and won! Then tried the opposite and it didn't, and I have no idea why one works but the other doesn't. I don't see any hidden Xs, I don't see any rules that would effect which goes where... help?

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kirbymuncher
04/16/24 10:37:03 AM
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Mega_Mana posted...
help?
look carefully at which numbers are in the cage

this whole puzzle is a great joke

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Mega_Mana
04/16/24 10:42:52 AM
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kirbymuncher posted...
look carefully at which numbers are in the cage

this whole puzzle is a great joke

...XD

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KainWind
04/16/24 7:40:48 PM
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SHRlKE posted...
Puzzle 001: ...What!
Type: Comedy Sudoku
Link: https://sudokupad.app/yiaonocy5d

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e16744e2.png

That was weird. My time might be a little fast because I knew and understood the rules way ahead of time. I only had trouble counting circles for some reason.

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pupeye
04/16/24 8:47:05 PM
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I solved it but it says its not correct. Maybe I don't know what the rules mean.

6 4 5 1 2 3
2 1 3 4 6 5
3 6 1 2 5 4
5 2 4 6 3 1
4 3 2 5 1 6
1 5 6 3 4 2

Rules
- Normal 6x6 sudoku rules apply.
- Each digit in a circle indicates how many times that digit appears in a circle in the puzzle.
3,4 3, 4
- Digits strictly never appear more than once in a cage.
1,6 + 4,3,2,5 assuming the dotted box is a cage
- Cells separated by an X sum to 10. Not all possible Xs are given.
4,6
- Grey lines are palindromes, i.e. digits equidistant from a grey line's center are always the same.
4,1,6,4,6,1,4 then 3,5,5,3
- Those are all the rules. Do not forget any of them.

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kirbymuncher
04/16/24 8:49:32 PM
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pupeye posted...
- Each digit in a circle indicates how many times that digit appears in a circle in the puzzle.
You're missing something here - more specifically, count how many threes and fours there are in circles right now in your solution

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SHRlKE
04/16/24 9:03:22 PM
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Mega_Mana posted...
I solved it, but I don't know how.

At first, I was hung up on the Cage, unable to make 16 without completely getting blocked by Sudoku. Then I realized the Cage rule doesn't care about numbers, and things went well from there.

Then I got to where I had all the fours and twos in the puzzle, but had a bunch of 1-3 and 5-6 pairs that I couldn't see how they'd be differentiated. I thought maybe it was a part of the joke that any of the four combinations left would work, plugged in numbers, and won! Then tried the opposite and it didn't, and I have no idea why one works but the other doesn't. I don't see any hidden Xs, I don't see any rules that would effect which goes where... help?

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Small Hint:
Pay close attention to this line in the rules:
Not all possible Xs are given.

Bigger Hint:
By the time you have to disambiguate the last few digits there are no other pairs of digits that add to 10 which would satisfy that rule being correct.

Huge Hint:
So as that rule says there must be at least one pair of digits that adds to ten that doesnt have an x. At this point there are no other pairs to at satisfy that rule so you have to create one. This disambiguates the final few digits.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/263cda72.png

If you want to watch how this puzzle is solved check this out:

https://youtu.be/_tm99RRNwh0?si=oOwm_KHUTuShLiIS

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pupeye
04/16/24 10:07:58 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
You're missing something here - more specifically, count how many threes and fours there are in circles right now in your solution
what i though was a thermometer i deducted was not a thermometer, but didn't realize there is a circle there. And now i know why there is a lone 4 in a circle.

edit: Ahh touche, it was more trickier than i thought.
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SHRlKE
04/18/24 5:47:43 PM
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Hopefully that wasnt too left field for people. Ill post something more conventional tomorrow.

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Powdered_Toast
04/18/24 5:53:53 PM
#14:


So where would one start when learning to solve Sudoku puzzles?

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SHRlKE
04/18/24 6:01:05 PM
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I would say start with a YouTube channel called Cracking the Cryptic. Just two dudes solving sudoku puzzles.

https://youtube.com/@CrackingTheCryptic?si=0l9e9WnqLgCXkpp9

They have an app which has a selection of GAS (genuinely approachable sudoku) puzzles that are meant for beginners. The CTC YouTube channel also does GAS puzzles every few days or so. One video might have three or four shorter puzzles.

https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/cracking-the-cryptic/id1629992934

If you want a more curated educational route then this site is great.

https://sudoku.coach/en/campaign

Although to me half the fun is figuring out stuff as you go along!

Finally I really love a guy called Rangsk who does a series of mini 6x6 sudoku puzzles. Hes done about 400 now. They vary in difficulty but each one takes between 5 and 10 minutes and the smaller grid size helps you focus on where to spend your attention whereas trying to work out the break ins on larger puzzles can feel a bit daunting for a newbie.


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kirbymuncher
04/18/24 6:04:30 PM
#16:


SHRlKE posted...
trying to work out the break ins on larger puzzles can feel a bit daunting for a newbie.
personally I like the fog puzzles because of this. it sorta limits where you can start, and then once you do start it limits where you can continue, so you never really feel too lost. Still can get stuck, but it's getting stuck by not understanding what to do, which imo feels much better than by not even understanding where to begin

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SHRlKE
04/18/24 6:07:25 PM
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kirbymuncher posted...
personally I like the fog puzzles because of this. it sorta limits where you can start, and then once you do start it limits where you can continue, so you never really feel too lost. Still can get stuck, but it's getting stuck by not understanding what to do, which imo feels much better than by not even understanding where to begin

Oh yeah I agree 100%. Fog puzzles are my favourite.

Id definitely Recommend Rangks channel. His 6x6 series is very focussed as well.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7B_esJLNuKNhaog5LkEuiBdOXnWxtaFQ&si=HoKsUKLgUHOnwByL

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SHRlKE
04/18/24 6:13:51 PM
#18:


Oh. There is a Google docs with a list of about 1000 GAS puzzles. You should be able to copy this. Might need to delete my entries if you do.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qeQ9aEPmEHImOv24VtCzW9Yz77A7GFfOq5cXSevKgys/edit

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SHRlKE
04/19/24 1:46:55 PM
#19:


Puzzle 002: Open Systems
Type: Region and Entropic Lines
Link: https://sudokupad.app/adventure/445-open-system

Rules
  • Normal 6x6 Sudoku rules apply. Place the digits 1-6 exactly once in every row, column, and 2x3 box.
  • Region Sum Lines: The thicker blue lines in the grid are Region Sum Lines. The sum of digits on the line is the same within each box.
  • Entropic Lines: The thinner peach lines in the grid are entropic lines. Any three adjacent digits along an entropic line are from one each of low(1,2), medium(3,4), and high(5,6) digits. Digits may repeat on these lines if allowed by other rules.


Notes
More variant fun!

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KainWind
04/19/24 2:38:23 PM
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SHRlKE posted...
Puzzle 002: Open Systems
Type: Region and Entropic Lines
Link: https://sudokupad.app/adventure/445-open-system

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SHRlKE
04/19/24 2:57:20 PM
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Puzzle 002: Open Systems
Type: Region and Entropic Lines
Link: https://sudokupad.app/adventure/445-open-system

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4353e7a8.png

you beat me as always

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kirbymuncher
04/19/24 2:59:04 PM
#22:


I miscoloured a line and was extremely confused for a while <_<

I dunno if I like the 6x6 ones very much, the way the boxes are not square just bothers my innate preference for symmetry

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SHRlKE
04/19/24 2:59:27 PM
#23:


Ill post a standard one tomorrow

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kirbymuncher
04/19/24 3:02:12 PM
#24:


Oh, don't let me decide what you link, I'm just kinda rambling. I don't even do that many of them in the first place, only if I am sort of staring at the ceiling not feeling like doing anything else.

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SHRlKE
04/19/24 4:21:37 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6a2f456d.jpg

whut

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KainWind
04/19/24 4:25:15 PM
#26:


SHRlKE posted...
whut

Time to brush up on your magic square rules!

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SHRlKE
04/19/24 4:31:31 PM
#27:


I checked the CTC vid and its about 25 minutes so shouldnt be difficult but Im stumped if I know where to even start . Yeah I might do another magic square puzzle to remind myself.

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SHRlKE
04/21/24 11:24:38 AM
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Damn the site moves quick these days.

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SHRlKE
04/23/24 10:53:48 AM
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Im ill. Will post an update asap.

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SHRlKE
04/25/24 8:28:38 AM
#30:


Puzzle 003: Ceci n'est pas un cliche.
Type: Classic
Link: https://app.crackingthecryptic.com/3t1y3ayk21

Rules
  • Normal 9x9 Sudoku Rules Apply.


Notes
Apologies for the delay. I've been in bed most of the week ill.

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SHRlKE
04/25/24 8:42:48 AM
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Puzzle 003:

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KainWind
04/25/24 8:17:51 PM
#32:


SHRlKE posted...
Puzzle 003: Ceci n'est pas un cliche.
Type: Classic

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/13b7c649.png

like 20 too many starting digits

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SHRlKE
04/26/24 7:42:18 AM
#33:


Puzzle 004: 05 Killer
Type: 0-5 Killer Sudoku
Link: https://sudokupad.app/adventure/454-05-killer

Rules
  • 0-5 Sudoku Rules - Place the digits 1 through 5 in the grid so that every row, column, and 2x3 outlined region contains each digit once and also contains one blank cell. Blank cells never touch each other, not even diagonally.
  • Digits in cages sum to the indicated totals (with blanks counting as 0).


Notes

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SHRlKE
04/26/24 7:59:53 AM
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Puzzle 004:

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KainWind
04/26/24 5:23:28 PM
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SHRlKE posted...
Puzzle 004: 05 Killer
Type: 0-5 Killer Sudoku

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5ac565a2.png

Why couldn't they just make it 0-5 instead of blanks? I guess it was fun deleting my 0s for the clear.

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SHRlKE
04/28/24 12:41:51 PM
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Yeah that got me as well tbh.

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SHRlKE
04/29/24 4:10:06 AM
#37:


Puzzle 005: Starburster
Type: Double Killer
Link: https://sudokupad.app/atco7998hm

Rules
  • Normal sudoku rules apply.
  • Digits along lines must have the same sum as the digits in the circles at each end.


Notes

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KainWind
04/29/24 8:12:16 PM
#38:


SHRlKE posted...
Puzzle 005: Starburster
Type: Double Killer

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