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Northlane
04/10/24 9:28:40 PM
#1:


Have you seen these latest gotcha ?

https://twitter.com/Mangalawyer/status/1777758435376824679

Reminds me of: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5185c531.jpg

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PraetorXyn
04/10/24 9:31:57 PM
#2:


It really is odd how all these facial scans of real people end up looking less realistic than an unrealistic idealized face from Japanese games. Its the uncanny valley.

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StealThisSheen
04/10/24 9:32:42 PM
#3:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6af4a909.jpg
I think she looks fine? Unless the point was to find a bad in-motion cap or something.

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pegusus123456
04/10/24 9:33:33 PM
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Yeah, two seconds of skimming the trailer until I find her tells me that this is just a bad still from a moving trailer and this is more right-wing dumbfuckery.

I could have saved the two seconds and just assumed that, I suppose.

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ProfessorKukui
04/10/24 9:34:06 PM
#5:


damn, incels writing their manifestos

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IceCreamOnStero
04/10/24 9:34:30 PM
#6:


I think changing the skintone and hair really doesn't help

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Dakimakura
04/10/24 9:35:20 PM
#7:


Oh, Ubisoft is in this?

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PraetorXyn
04/10/24 9:39:57 PM
#8:


StealThisSheen posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6af4a909.jpg
I think she looks fine? Unless the point was to find a bad in-motion cap or something.
This looks awful compared to her picture in the OP.

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itcheyness
04/10/24 9:41:30 PM
#9:


PraetorXyn posted...
This looks awful compared to her picture in the OP.
This just in: Video Games Look Worse Than Real Life

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StealThisSheen
04/10/24 9:43:46 PM
#10:


PraetorXyn posted...
This looks awful compared to her picture in the OP.

  1. Yes... A video game will look worse than an edited real life modeling photo, you're correct.
  2. Even beyond that, the character is clearly designed to look like they don't have much in the way of makeup on, while the modeling photo clearly... Very much does.


What point do you think you're proving, exactly?

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xGhostchantx
04/10/24 9:48:49 PM
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You realize professional modelling shoots involve very intricate lighting, very heavy makeup, at least B tier photography and B tier photoshop skills?

This is her in a not-modelling situation

https://imgur.com/wVluvyK

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BearlyWilling
04/10/24 9:52:15 PM
#12:


PraetorXyn posted...
This looks awful compared to her picture in the OP.

wat lol

get your eyes checked, homie

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StealThisSheen
04/10/24 9:53:30 PM
#13:


xGhostchantx posted...
You realize professional modelling shoots involve very intricate lighting, very heavy makeup, at least B tier photography and B tier photoshop skills?

This is her in a not-modelling situation

https://imgur.com/wVluvyK

Gasp why did Ubisoft make her so ugly in your photo though?!

/s

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xGhostchantx
04/10/24 9:54:59 PM
#14:


StealThisSheen posted...
Gasp why did Ubisoft make her so ugly in your photo though?!

/s

She's still an absolute would but these terminally online goofballs have never seen a girl IRL or woken up next to them after smearing makeup all over the pillow

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Rharyx211
04/10/24 9:55:16 PM
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I wouldn't say that character looks ugly at all, but it definitely doesn't look like the model.

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Hayame_Zero
04/10/24 10:00:26 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Yeah, two seconds of skimming the trailer until I find her tells me that this is just a bad still from a moving trailer and this is more right-wing dumbfuckery.

I could have saved the two seconds and just assumed that, I suppose.

Yeah, this is just another Aloy in Forbidden West situation.

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Prestoff
04/10/24 10:02:52 PM
#17:


StealThisSheen posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6af4a909.jpg
I think she looks fine? Unless the point was to find a bad in-motion cap or something.

I'm not surprised there is dishonesty here from the "horny" crowd. I guess this is what happens when someone thinks with their peepee and not their head.


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DarthAragorn
04/10/24 10:04:41 PM
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It's a kinda shit hairstyle but other than that she looks fine

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PraetorXyn
04/10/24 10:07:29 PM
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itcheyness posted...
This just in: Video Games Look Worse Than Real Life
The issue is that it looks ironically less believable than a from-scratch designed face thats designed to be idealized and unrealistic.

Its the uncanny valley, thats the problem. Its not so much that she looks ugly, its that using facial scans and realistic graphics, she somehow looks less like a real person than someone from an art style game that doesnt look realistic at all, whether its Wind Walker or Tales of Whatever, take your pick.

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StealThisSheen
04/10/24 10:26:42 PM
#20:


PraetorXyn posted...
The issue is that it looks ironically less believable than a from-scratch designed face thats designed to be idealized and unrealistic.

Its the uncanny valley, thats the problem. Its not so much that she looks ugly, its that using facial scans and realistic graphics, she somehow looks less like a real person than someone from an art style game that doesnt look realistic at all, whether its Wind Walker or Tales of Whatever, take your pick.

No, definitely don't see that at all. Definitely looks infinitely more like a real person than... Toon Link? That's literally the argument you're going with?

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thronedfire2
04/10/24 10:27:28 PM
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do people not realize they hire the actors for motion capture and animation more than their looks?

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PraetorXyn
04/10/24 10:35:58 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
No, definitely don't see that at all. Definitely looks infinitely more like a real person than... Toon Link? That's literally the argument you're going with?
I more meant Japanese art style games of a similar time and tech. Bringing up Wind Waker was more arguing that Toon Link has aged better now than any game from the time with facial scans and motion capture. To a lesser extent, as a rule of thumb, art style games age better than ones meant to be photorealistic, just as 2D games from the SNES have aged infinitely better than early 3D games from the PS1.

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StealThisSheen
04/10/24 10:37:35 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
I more meant Japanese art style games of a similar time and tech. Bringing up Wind Waker was more arguing that Toon Link has aged better now than any game from the time with facial scans and motion capture. To a lesser extent, as a rule of thumb, art style games age better than ones meant to be photorealistic, just as 2D games from the SNES have aged infinitely better than early 3D games from the PS1.

I've gotta be honest, I have literally no idea where you're trying to go with this, since your initial reply was literally "It looks worse than that model photo," and now you're talking about art styles aging, which feels like two completely different points.

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__aCEr__
04/10/24 10:37:46 PM
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Humberly got a reduction etc.

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Baron_Ox
04/10/24 10:39:00 PM
#25:


I think the in-game model looks good, going by post 3.

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metralo
04/10/24 10:41:05 PM
#26:


StealThisSheen posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6af4a909.jpg
I think she looks fine? Unless the point was to find a bad in-motion cap or something.

god damn shes hot

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PraetorXyn
04/10/24 10:44:01 PM
#27:


StealThisSheen posted...
I've gotta be honest, I have literally no idea where you're trying to go with this, since your initial reply was literally "It looks worse than that model photo," and now you're talking about art styles aging, which feels like two completely different points.
All of it.

  1. Her in-game model looks worse than the model photo (I mainly said this because the post I responded to acted like the model scan looked fine and only the still image in Op looked bad)
  2. I think the root of the problem is the uncanny valley thing breaking peoples immersion rather than more or less attractive
  3. I think games with deliberate art styles age better than ones meant to look as realistic as technology permits.
1 and 3 are more tangential points though. 2 is the pertinent one.

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YellowSUV
04/10/24 10:46:54 PM
#28:


StealThisSheen posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6af4a909.jpg
I think she looks fine? Unless the point was to find a bad in-motion cap or something.

Behold the power of camera angles. She looks way better here than the bad camera angle of the original picture.

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StealThisSheen
04/10/24 10:47:33 PM
#29:


PraetorXyn posted...
Her in-game model looks worse than the model photo (I mainly said this because the post I responded to acted like the model scan looked fine and only the still image in Op looked bad)

The scan DOES look fine, though. It's not supposed to look like the model photo, nor should one expect a video game scan to look like a modeling photo, and the fact you seem to think it should is questionable.

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PaperSplash
04/10/24 10:47:39 PM
#30:


People getting mad on behalf of a random model (who more than likely does not give a shit) for how she looks in a video game always feels so damn unserious. Just be honest and say you don't find the video game character attractive; it's still corny but at least it's sincere.
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xGhostchantx
04/10/24 11:00:35 PM
#31:


PraetorXyn posted...
Her in-game model looks worse than the model photo

Of course it does. It's not a static modelling shoot. It's a video game. It's a digital Madame Tussaud's that looks worse than the waxes. They're low quality wax figures, not real people in heavy makeup in specific angles with specific lighting and specific makeup and specific contouring then being edited in photoshop after. What are you expecting here? Do you not live in reality?

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murrica
04/10/24 11:13:33 PM
#32:


PraetorXyn posted...
I think the root of the problem is the uncanny valley thing breaking peoples immersion rather than more or less attractive
Yeah, that ain't the root of the problem.

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vycebrand2
04/12/24 5:29:09 PM
#33:


PraetorXyn posted...
It really is odd how all these facial scans of real people end up looking less realistic than an unrealistic idealized face from Japanese games. Its the uncanny valley.
At least the tech is better than that space station game on the PS1. Sentient. The faces were stuff of nightmares

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Umbreon
04/12/24 5:31:38 PM
#34:


TC hasn't come back.

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Crimsoness
04/12/24 5:32:27 PM
#35:


Oh look it's this topic again

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hockeybabe89
04/12/24 5:33:33 PM
#36:


I'm pretty sure 98% of these "deliberate uglifications" are merely the result of taking a real face and placing it onto a virtual skeleton. It's never 1:1. And then snowflakes find the most unflattering still frame of said video game model and start screaming about woke.

Or are we going to accuse 2006 BioWare of deliberately making MaleShep uglier than his real model?

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DoesntMatter
04/12/24 5:51:20 PM
#37:


there's nothing wrong with the in-game model

wtf kind of name is "Humberly" though

sounds like the parents wanted to have a son and name him Humberto, but then it turned out to be a daughter and they tried to force it

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Northlane
04/12/24 6:02:13 PM
#38:


Umbreon posted...
TC hasn't come back.


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Murphiroth
04/12/24 6:04:15 PM
#39:


It's always been an uncanny valley issue but the totally normal gamers have convinced themselves it's an active attack on their boners by the evil Western devs. It's why Stellar Blade is their new boner beacon.
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FortuneCookie
04/12/24 6:04:58 PM
#40:


CE told me this doesn't happen. <_<
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NoxObscuras
04/12/24 6:07:17 PM
#41:


Murphiroth posted...
It's always been an uncanny valley issue but the totally normal gamers have convinced themselves it's an active attack on their boners by the evil Western devs. It's why Stellar Blade is their new boner beacon.
"Totally normal gamers"

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TheSavageDragon
04/12/24 6:08:57 PM
#42:


hockeybabe89 posted...
Or are we going to accuse 2006 BioWare of deliberately making MaleShep uglier than his real model?

We all know why the usuals never made a peep about this one.
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008Zulu
04/12/24 6:20:36 PM
#43:


O no what a tragedy he said with much sarcasm.

It's an Ubisoft game, and you're focused on what the main character looks like? You should be more worried that it's going to be an open world blandfest like all the other Ubisoft games.

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Jagr_68
04/12/24 6:21:18 PM
#44:


PraetorXyn posted...
It really is odd how all these facial scans of real people end up looking less realistic than an unrealistic idealized face from Japanese games. Its the uncanny valley.

Only Hideo's billion dollar scanner can accurately pull facial likenesses off to near 100% accuracy without jarring anatomical errors.

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garan
04/12/24 6:23:01 PM
#45:


Northlane posted...
Have you seen these latest gotcha ?

https://twitter.com/Mangalawyer/status/1777758435376824679

Reminds me of: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5185c531.jpg


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