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BlueKat 04/05/24 9:58:50 AM #1:	https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/dutch-woman-chooses-euthanasia-for-mental-health-struggles/articleshow/109054279.cms --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. <cite>BlueKat posted [p:979744571] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/rest-of-world/dutch-woman-chooses-euthanasia-for-mental-health-struggles/articleshow/109054279.cms </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kai_Laguna 04/05/24 10:00:36 AM #2:	and there's nothing wrong with that. <cite>Kai_Laguna posted [p:979744596] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>and there's nothing wrong with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 04/05/24 10:00:57 AM #3:	This sounds like a slippery slope --- See profile pic <cite>Irony posted [p:979744602] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>This sounds like a slippery slope </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 04/05/24 10:01:59 AM #4:	That's pretty cool and I wish it were an option here --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:979744619] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>That's pretty cool and I wish it were an option here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
superbot400 04/05/24 10:02:22 AM #5:	Kai_Laguna posted... and there's nothing wrong with that. There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help. --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. <cite>superbot400 posted [p:979744626] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Kai_Laguna posted... </cite><quote>and there's nothing wrong with that.</quote>There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kai_Laguna 04/05/24 10:10:24 AM #6:	superbot400 posted... There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help. You assume any of the many issues this woman endures showed any response to medications or therapy while maintaining a satisfactory quality of life. She also has concerns about our uncertain future thanks to things that can not be fixed, like global warming. <cite>Kai_Laguna posted [p:979744729] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>superbot400 posted... </cite><quote>There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help.</quote>You assume any of the many issues this woman endures showed any response to medications or therapy while maintaining a satisfactory quality of life. She also has concerns about our uncertain future thanks to things that can not be fixed, like global warming.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xatrion 04/05/24 10:11:06 AM #7:	superbot400 posted... There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help. If it's never getting better, then what's the point? --- Shut your BF28/9 sound hole and listen up. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice? Strike three. <cite>Xatrion posted [p:979744735] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>superbot400 posted... </cite><quote>There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help.</quote>If it's never getting better, then what's the point? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 04/05/24 10:11:42 AM #8:	No comment --- She/Her <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:979744744] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>No comment </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 04/05/24 10:13:19 AM #9:	Hopefully mushrooms and other emerging therapies can reduce the hopelessness aspect. But people should be allowed to end their own lives. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:979744768] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully mushrooms and other emerging therapies can reduce the hopelessness aspect.But people should be allowed to end their own lives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoenix 04/05/24 10:14:08 AM #10:	I feel this should be a thing. Right away if dealing with a terminal disease or just old ad fuck. Mandatory therapy if those thing aren't present then circle back and ask them if they still wanna do it. Mind you this is more ideal with free health care --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:979744781] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>I feel this should be a thing. Right away if dealing with a terminal disease or just old ad fuck. Mandatory therapy if those thing aren't present then circle back and ask them if they still wanna do it. Mind you this is more ideal with free health care </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueKat 04/05/24 9:01:18 PM #12:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] According to the article: "In 2022, there were 8,720 euthanasia deaths in the Netherlands representing roughly 5% of all the countrys deaths and up from 4 per cent from the year prior, according to Dutch media." I wonder if the Dutch law has changed in the last couple of years. --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. <cite>BlueKat posted [p:979755453] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> According to the article: "In 2022, there were 8,720 euthanasia deaths in the Netherlands representing roughly 5% of all the countrys deaths and up from 4 per cent from the year prior, according to Dutch media."I wonder if the Dutch law has changed in the last couple of years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 04/05/24 9:05:08 PM #13:	We should do everything we can to take care of people and actually solve their problems. People should also have the right to go out on their own terms, regardless of what others think. The first one should happen before the second one, otherwise it leads to a lot of problems, if not eugenics. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:979755519] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>We should do everything we can to take care of people and actually solve their problems. People should also have the right to go out on their own terms, regardless of what others think. The first one should happen before the second one, otherwise it leads to a lot of problems, if not eugenics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 04/05/24 9:07:41 PM #14:	Xatrion posted... If it's never getting better, then what's the point? they gotta suffer so normal people would feel good --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:979755567] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Xatrion posted... </cite><quote>If it's never getting better, then what's the point?</quote>they gotta suffer so normal people would feel good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/05/24 9:10:29 PM #15:	superbot400 posted... There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help. Did you not read the part where she went to many doctors and they said there's nothing more they can do it's never going to get better? --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979755629] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>superbot400 posted... </cite><quote>There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help.</quote>Did you not read the part where she went to many doctors and they said there's nothing more they can do it's never going to get better? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 04/05/24 9:12:39 PM #16:	Things like this just absolutely need an incredibly strict and rigorous process to qualify for, which this seemingly does. I have no comment on people deciding to end their life peacefully, as thats their decision. Its just a little hard for me to reconcile, because at my lowest moments of depression i probably would have genuinely looked into something like this. Im glad to still be alive now though. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:979755660] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Things like this just absolutely need an incredibly strict and rigorous process to qualify for, which this seemingly does. I have no comment on people deciding to end their life peacefully, as thats their decision. Its just a little hard for me to reconcile, because at my lowest moments of depression i probably would have genuinely looked into something like this. Im glad to still be alive now though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pikachuchupika 04/05/24 9:12:53 PM #17:	So suicide, but easier and sanctioned? I thought we wanted to prevent suicide, not encourage it? <cite>Pikachuchupika posted [p:979755666] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>So suicide, but easier and sanctioned? I thought we wanted to prevent suicide, not encourage it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 04/05/24 9:22:38 PM #18:	Pikachuchupika posted... So suicide, but easier and sanctioned? I thought we wanted to prevent suicide, not encourage it? It's not easier, committing suicide without interfacing with the medical system is way easier than this. All you need is a gun or a bridge or a pill or a car and a garage etc etc etc. That's why most are snap decisions. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:979755819] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Pikachuchupika posted... </cite><quote>So suicide, but easier and sanctioned? I thought we wanted to prevent suicide, not encourage it?</quote>It's not easier, committing suicide without interfacing with the medical system is way easier than this. All you need is a gun or a bridge or a pill or a car and a garage etc etc etc. That's why most are snap decisions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baron_Ox 04/05/24 9:25:47 PM #19:	Pikachuchupika posted... So suicide, but easier and sanctioned? I thought we wanted to prevent suicide, not encourage it? ...is this Catboy? anyway, the point is she's suffering, and believes she has no other option? --- "I could never encapsulate all my cosmicality on my own." - mr. MFN eXquire. https://imgur.com/4CDGncR <cite>Baron_Ox posted [p:979755866] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Pikachuchupika posted... </cite><quote>So suicide, but easier and sanctioned? I thought we wanted to prevent suicide, not encourage it?</quote>...is this Catboy?anyway, the point is she's suffering, and believes she has no other option? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 04/05/24 9:40:34 PM #21:	legendary_zell posted... It's not easier, committing suicide without interfacing with the medical system is way easier than this. All you need is a gun or a bridge or a pill or a car and a garage etc etc etc. That's why most are snap decisions. I think he means the act of being euthanized is easier than shooting yourself in the head or jumping. The latter two would take a lot of nerve and may not be successful. --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:979756100] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite><quote>It's not easier, committing suicide without interfacing with the medical system is way easier than this. All you need is a gun or a bridge or a pill or a car and a garage etc etc etc. That's why most are snap decisions.</quote>I think he means the act of being euthanized is easier than shooting yourself in the head or jumping. The latter two would take a lot of nerve and may not be successful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
superbot400 04/06/24 11:07:26 PM #22:	Tyranthraxus posted... Did you not read the part where she went to many doctors and they said there's nothing more they can do it's never going to get better? No. That's a complete joke, borderline malpractice. Do you not see anything wrong with patient with history of depression requesting for assisted suicide? Doctor should not be promoting suicide. Society has FAILED to provide proper mental health. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/canadians-unhappy-with-publicly-funded-mental-health-substance-use-services-survey-finds-1.6732616 https://evidencenetwork.ca/how-canada-fails-people-with-mental-illnesses/ --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. <cite>superbot400 posted [p:979776756] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Did you not read the part where she went to many doctors and they said there's nothing more they can do it's never going to get better?</quote>No. That's a complete joke, borderline malpractice. Do you not see anything wrong with patient with history of depression requesting for assisted suicide? Doctor should not be promoting suicide.Society has FAILED to provide proper mental health. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/canadians-unhappy-with-publicly-funded-mental-health-substance-use-services-survey-finds-1.6732616https://evidencenetwork.ca/how-canada-fails-people-with-mental-illnesses/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFalseDeity 04/06/24 11:18:12 PM #23:	DarthAragorn posted... That's pretty cool and I wish it were an option here --- http://psnprofiles.com/TheFalseDeity Currently playing - Scarlet Nexus <cite>TheFalseDeity posted [p:979777046] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>That's pretty cool and I wish it were an option here</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nekrodev 04/06/24 11:18:44 PM #24:	DarthAragorn posted... That's pretty cool and I wish it were an option here --- "To be, or not to be - there is no such question. To be! But to be what...?" FFBE friend ID - 432.640.287 - nekrodev <cite>nekrodev posted [p:979777058] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted... </cite><quote>That's pretty cool and I wish it were an option here</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neccis 04/06/24 11:19:02 PM #25:	Kai_Laguna posted... and there's nothing wrong with that. --- PSN: SlCCEN Rest in Peace Mamba <cite>neccis posted [p:979777063] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Kai_Laguna posted... </cite><quote>and there's nothing wrong with that.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 04/06/24 11:29:47 PM #26:	Kai_Laguna posted... and there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's sick and depressing. She's perfectly physically healthy. She's got a boyfriend that loves her and a roof. Really sad. Seems like she needs to experience real hardship so she can appreciate the life she has. A good survival situation would help that, scrounge for food and build shelter. I've personally felt like taking my life a few times and next time I feel like that I'm going to jump, but not jump to end my life. I'm going to jump from a plane and skydive. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:979777274] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Kai_Laguna posted... </cite><quote>and there's nothing wrong with that.</quote>I think it's sick and depressing. She's perfectly physically healthy. She's got a boyfriend that loves her and a roof. Really sad.Seems like she needs to experience real hardship so she can appreciate the life she has. A good survival situation would help that, scrounge for food and build shelter. I've personally felt like taking my life a few times and next time I feel like that I'm going to jump, but not jump to end my life. I'm going to jump from a plane and skydive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FolkenRawr 04/06/24 11:35:32 PM #27:	deoxxys posted... I think it's sick and depressing. She's perfectly physically healthy. She's got a boyfriend that loves her and a roof. Really sad. Seems like she needs to experience real hardship so she can appreciate the life she has. A good survival situation would help that, scrounge for food and build shelter. I've personally felt like taking my life a few times and next time I feel like that I'm going to jump, but not jump to end my life. I'm going to jump from a plane and skydive. Have you ever posted something that wasn't just fucking awful and unbelievably stupid? --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin <cite>FolkenRawr posted [p:979777377] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>I think it's sick and depressing. She's perfectly physically healthy. She's got a boyfriend that loves her and a roof. Really sad.Seems like she needs to experience real hardship so she can appreciate the life she has. A good survival situation would help that, scrounge for food and build shelter. I've personally felt like taking my life a few times and next time I feel like that I'm going to jump, but not jump to end my life. I'm going to jump from a plane and skydive.</quote>Have you ever posted something that wasn't just fucking awful and unbelievably stupid? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 04/07/24 12:52:50 AM #28:	There's something barbaric about forcing people to live in agony. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:979778523] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>There's something barbaric about forcing people to live in agony. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 04/07/24 6:35:18 AM #29:	FolkenRawr posted... Have you ever posted something that wasn't just fucking awful and unbelievably stupid? Oh no someone on the internet is an expressing an opinion different than my own! How terrible! I don't think suicide is the way out, I believe euthanasia is only for those in severe permanent physical pain. Mental states can be altered by exposing you to different stimuli. Adrenaline rushes, dopamine release, extended relaxation periods, serene environments, some form of change from your everyday exposure to the repeated repetition. "I'm seeing euthanasia as some sort of acceptable option brought to the table by physicians, by psychiatrist, when it previously was the ultimate last resort," she said. The article doesn't say anything about attempted solutions but instead just seems like a piece to convince people that suicide isn't awful. Yes let's convince people that ending your life is the answer. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:979780724] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>FolkenRawr posted... </cite><quote>Have you ever posted something that wasn't just fucking awful and unbelievably stupid?</quote>Oh no someone on the internet is an expressing an opinion different than my own! How terrible!I don't think suicide is the way out, I believe euthanasia is only for those in severe permanent physical pain. Mental states can be altered by exposing you to different stimuli. Adrenaline rushes, dopamine release, extended relaxation periods, serene environments, some form of change from your everyday exposure to the repeated repetition."I'm seeing euthanasia as some sort of acceptable option brought to the table by physicians, by psychiatrist, when it previously was the ultimate last resort," she said.The article doesn't say anything about attempted solutions but instead just seems like a piece to convince people that suicide isn't awful. Yes let's convince people that ending your life is the answer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myztikrice 04/07/24 6:53:22 AM #30:	deoxxys posted... Oh no someone on the internet is an expressing an opinion different than my own! How terrible! I don't think suicide is the way out, I believe euthanasia is only for those in severe permanent physical pain. Mental states can be altered by exposing you to different stimuli. Adrenaline rushes, dopamine release, extended relaxation periods, serene environments, some form of change from your everyday exposure to the repeated repetition. "I'm seeing euthanasia as some sort of acceptable option brought to the table by physicians, by psychiatrist, when it previously was the ultimate last resort," she said. The article doesn't say anything about attempted solutions but instead just seems like a piece to convince people that suicide isn't awful. Yes let's convince people that ending your life is the answer. Why do you think there are instances where there is no path forward for physical pain except suicide, but not mental pain? --- "Why are you always smiling?" "'Cause it's all so f***in' hysterical." <cite>myztikrice posted [p:979780793] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>Oh no someone on the internet is an expressing an opinion different than my own! How terrible!I don't think suicide is the way out, I believe euthanasia is only for those in severe permanent physical pain. Mental states can be altered by exposing you to different stimuli. Adrenaline rushes, dopamine release, extended relaxation periods, serene environments, some form of change from your everyday exposure to the repeated repetition."I'm seeing euthanasia as some sort of acceptable option brought to the table by physicians, by psychiatrist, when it previously was the ultimate last resort," she said.The article doesn't say anything about attempted solutions but instead just seems like a piece to convince people that suicide isn't awful. Yes let's convince people that ending your life is the answer.</quote>Why do you think there are instances where there is no path forward for physical pain except suicide, but not mental pain? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 04/07/24 7:11:13 AM #31:	myztikrice posted... Why do you think there are instances where there is no path forward for physical pain except suicide, but not mental pain? There's some physical things medicine can't fix. If war veterans can overcome PTSD there's hope for everyone. There's a chance even Psilocybin can change the brain's chemistry. For mental pain, I suppose euthanasia may be possibly considered as a last resort but this article is like just actively encouraging suicide. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:979780892] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>myztikrice posted... </cite><quote>Why do you think there are instances where there is no path forward for physical pain except suicide, but not mental pain?</quote>There's some physical things medicine can't fix. If war veterans can overcome PTSD there's hope for everyone. There's a chance even Psilocybin can change the brain's chemistry. For mental pain, I suppose euthanasia may be possibly considered as a last resort but this article is like just actively encouraging suicide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheiky-Baby 04/07/24 7:21:50 AM #32:	Feel bad for the boyfriend as it's like living with someone with terminal cancer, and counting down on the days. Except this terminal cancer can be rid of just like that, if she changes her mind, and live on. --- "Make pain your best friend, and you'll never be alone." <cite>Sheiky-Baby posted [p:979780941] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Feel bad for the boyfriend as it's like living with someone with terminal cancer, and counting down on the days. Except this terminal cancer can be rid of just like that, if she changes her mind, and live on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimson_Corsair 04/07/24 7:52:04 AM #33:	Over here, telling somebody they should kill themselves would be considered an insult but I guess in the Netherlands it is considered sound medical advice. --- My head's not torn off, my sunglasses aren't broken. Amen, hallelujah, peanut butter. <cite>Crimson_Corsair posted [p:979781143] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Over here, telling somebody they should kill themselves would be considered an insult but I guess in the Netherlands it is considered sound medical advice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LSGW_Zephyra 04/07/24 7:53:48 AM #34:	superbot400 posted... There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help. For the record, the doctor told her she will never get better. --- Bioshock gave us a fictional world showing why libertarianism doesn't work. Cryptos/NFTs gave us the real world example (She/Her) <cite>LSGW_Zephyra posted [p:979781153] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>superbot400 posted... </cite><quote>There is . It means Society has money to kill people then give them therapy and help.</quote>For the record, the doctor told her she will never get better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eviora 04/07/24 8:55:43 AM #35:	Refusal to acknowledge someone's desires for how they live or don't live their own life is an affront to human dignity. I'm not saying don't try to persuade them to try things to improve. But outright forcing your viewpoint on them won't make anyone better. There are things worse than death. <cite>Eviora posted [p:979781539] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Refusal to acknowledge someone's desires for how they live or don't live their own life is an affront to human dignity. I'm not saying don't try to persuade them to try things to improve. But outright forcing your viewpoint on them won't make anyone better. There are things worse than death.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoenix 04/07/24 11:11:53 AM #36:	People say it's selfish to commit suicide because the pain it's gonna cause family and friends but is it not selfish to insist they live just to keep you happy? As mentioned before I feel it shouldn't be recommended but if they ask for it just have them go through some therapy for a period of time to see if they can't be convinced not to. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:979782955] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>People say it's selfish to commit suicide because the pain it's gonna cause family and friends but is it not selfish to insist they live just to keep you happy?As mentioned before I feel it shouldn't be recommended but if they ask for it just have them go through some therapy for a period of time to see if they can't be convinced not to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010 04/07/24 11:23:22 AM #37:	I thought CE is far left. We should be respecting her choice. --- Load me into the matrix and dont pull the plug <cite>Cobra1010 posted [p:979783113] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>I thought CE is far left. We should be respecting her choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 04/07/24 11:27:13 AM #39:	superbot400 posted... No. That's a complete joke, borderline malpractice. Do you not see anything wrong with patient with history of depression requesting for assisted suicide? Doctor should not be promoting suicide. Society has FAILED to provide proper mental health. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/canadians-unhappy-with-publicly-funded-mental-health-substance-use-services-survey-finds-1.6732616 https://evidencenetwork.ca/how-canada-fails-people-with-mental-illnesses/ I'm glad you seem to know more than the entire Dutch medical system. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:979783161] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>superbot400 posted... </cite><quote>No. That's a complete joke, borderline malpractice. Do you not see anything wrong with patient with history of depression requesting for assisted suicide? Doctor should not be promoting suicide.Society has FAILED to provide proper mental health. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/canadians-unhappy-with-publicly-funded-mental-health-substance-use-services-survey-finds-1.6732616https://evidencenetwork.ca/how-canada-fails-people-with-mental-illnesses/</quote>I'm glad you seem to know more than the entire Dutch medical system. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 04/07/24 11:31:23 AM #41:	It's kind of of fucked up the doctors just gave up on her knowing she wanted to die if it was hopeless. They pretty much told her to schedule her death appointment. It's her life and no one knows how terrible it was but her. But 28 seems way to young to throw in the towel. If her mental conditions are that severe, how do they determine if she's mentally able to make a decision like that? --- This is where cool people write stuff. <cite>LeoRavus posted [p:979783224] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>It's kind of of fucked up the doctors just gave up on her knowing she wanted to die if it was hopeless. They pretty much told her to schedule her death appointment. It's her life and no one knows how terrible it was but her. But 28 seems way to young to throw in the towel. If her mental conditions are that severe, how do they determine if she's mentally able to make a decision like that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 04/07/24 11:33:35 AM #42:	Nice to see that a few randoms on a dead message board know more about the patient's medical history than doctors experienced with treating her. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:979783265] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Nice to see that a few randoms on a dead message board know more about the patient's medical history than doctors experienced with treating her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sheiky-Baby 04/07/24 11:57:20 AM #44:	LSGW_Zephyra posted... For the record, the doctor told her she will never get better. And as we all know, Doctors are always right. Like the ones telling their patients they have 2 years left to live, 15 years ago, and they're still alive today. --- "Make pain your best friend, and you'll never be alone." <cite>Sheiky-Baby posted [p:979783599] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>LSGW_Zephyra posted... </cite><quote>For the record, the doctor told her she will never get better.</quote>And as we all know, Doctors are always right. Like the ones telling their patients they have 2 years left to live, 15 years ago, and they're still alive today. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsNotA2Mer 04/07/24 11:57:22 AM #45:	deoxxys posted... Seems like she needs to experience real hardship so she can appreciate the life she has. Because you really know something about what she has/hasn't been through in her life, right? What a shit take. --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. (He/Him). <cite>ItsNotA2Mer posted [p:979783600] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>Seems like she needs to experience real hardship so she can appreciate the life she has.</quote>Because you really know something about what she has/hasn't been through in her life, right? What a shit take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 04/07/24 12:03:14 PM #46:	"You know what suffering people really need? MORE SUFFERING!!" --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979783703] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>"You know what suffering people really need? MORE SUFFERING!!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/07/24 12:08:53 PM #48:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] This is not bad advice on its face. The overwhelming amount of suicide attempts are decisions made in crisis periods. If you can get someone to stop until the crisis has passed, the chances they'll want to go through with it drop dramatically. 90% of people who attempted suicide (and live) regret it and never reattempt. This isn't the case for everyone though. If someone plans this shit out for months especially in the open it means they're pretty serious about it and it's not just an impulse decision. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:979783795] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> This is not bad advice on its face. The overwhelming amount of suicide attempts are decisions made in crisis periods. If you can get someone to stop until the crisis has passed, the chances they'll want to go through with it drop dramatically. 90% of people who attempted suicide (and live) regret it and never reattempt. This isn't the case for everyone though. If someone plans this shit out for months especially in the open it means they're pretty serious about it and it's not just an impulse decision. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LSGW_Zephyra 04/07/24 12:24:14 PM #49:	Sheiky-Baby posted... And as we all know, Doctors are always right. Like the ones telling their patients they have 2 years left to live, 15 years ago, and they're still alive today. From all accounts she saw multiple doctors. She is suffering immensely with no hope of recovery. I have an anxiety disorder, it is hell. If someone were to tell me that I would never get better, I too would be looking at ending my own life after a few years of being stuck in that. By all accounts, she has that and worse. She deserves to make the choice. We don't get a choice to be born into this world but some of us at least can decide when we leave it. --- Bioshock gave us a fictional world showing why libertarianism doesn't work. Cryptos/NFTs gave us the real world example (She/Her) <cite>LSGW_Zephyra posted [p:979784027] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Sheiky-Baby posted... </cite><quote>And as we all know, Doctors are always right. Like the ones telling their patients they have 2 years left to live, 15 years ago, and they're still alive today.</quote>From all accounts she saw multiple doctors. She is suffering immensely with no hope of recovery. I have an anxiety disorder, it is hell. If someone were to tell me that I would never get better, I too would be looking at ending my own life after a few years of being stuck in that. By all accounts, she has that and worse. She deserves to make the choice. We don't get a choice to be born into this world but some of us at least can decide when we leave it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sufferedphoenix 04/07/24 2:22:46 PM #50:	Sheiky-Baby posted... And as we all know, Doctors are always right. Like the ones telling their patients they have 2 years left to live, 15 years ago, and they're still alive today. I know a guy who was told he'd never walk again. He needs a cane last i checked but he walks. He never quit trying though. That's what it boiled down to he never gave up hope. And he can walk without the cane just he tires out quickly so it's been years since then I wouldn't be surprised of he doesn't need the cane at this point Was really sad cause he was tore up about it. He didnr wanna rely on government assistance and just draw disability. He legit wanted a job so he pushed himself everyday to get better. It's been like a decade but he's finally got a job and working on a college degree to get even better jobs. For those that care to know he got hit by a car skateboarding and it threw him where he ended up landing on another moving car. He said it was the best thing to happen to him cause he was addicted to meth and his stay in the hospital got him clean and he's been clean since. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process <cite>Sufferedphoenix posted [p:979785801] in Dutch woma... [t:80739593]...</cite> <quote>Sheiky-Baby posted... </cite><quote>And as we all know, Doctors are always right. Like the ones telling their patients they have 2 years left to live, 15 years ago, and they're still alive today.</quote> I know a guy who was told he'd never walk again. He needs a cane last i checked but he walks. He never quit trying though. That's what it boiled down to he never gave up hope. And he can walk without the cane just he tires out quickly so it's been years since then I wouldn't be surprised of he doesn't need the cane at this pointWas really sad cause he was tore up about it. He didnr wanna rely on government assistance and just draw disability. He legit wanted a job so he pushed himself everyday to get better. It's been like a decade but he's finally got a job and working on a college degree to get even better jobs. For those that care to know he got hit by a car skateboarding and it threw him where he ended up landing on another moving car. He said it was the best thing to happen to him cause he was addicted to meth and his stay in the hospital got him clean and he's been clean since. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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