Current Events > Female Silver Surfer confirmed

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2, 3
Bass_X0
04/04/24 12:30:16 AM
#101:




Punished_Blinx posted...
Disney does not give one single shit about nerd outrage online and nor should they.

very true.

which is why they continue to lose money

this is the am I that out of touch? No its the [fans who want to give money for an accurate representation to the comics they read] who are wrong meme being played out using millions of dollars

---
"Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN
... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie
04/04/24 12:30:32 AM
#102:


TMOG posted...
So you're just ignoring the 90-something posts of people clarifying that this is an existing female character and not just a random gender-swap, then?

Oh, never mind then.

... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 12:45:03 AM
#103:


Bass_X0 posted...
very true.

which is why they continue to lose money

this is the am I that out of touch? No its the [fans who want to give money for an accurate representation to the comics they read] who are wrong meme being played out using millions of dollars

Trying to say that Disney's box office issues is due to nerds being upset online is silly as fuck.

Which movies failed because they weren't comic accurate

---
A Fallen Mascot
... Copied to Clipboard!
Aloc
04/04/24 12:53:36 AM
#104:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Trying to say that Disney's box office issues is due to nerds being upset online is silly as fuck.

Which movies failed because they weren't comic accurate
That's undeniably a huge part of it.

What is the target audience for these movies

---
Aloc will now post in PG or try
... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 1:00:56 AM
#105:


Aloc posted...
That's undeniably a huge part of it.

What is the target audience for these movies

Everyone

Why haven't you brought up an example yet.

Disney's box office woes aren't even restricted to Marvel.

---
A Fallen Mascot
... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0
04/04/24 1:17:22 AM
#106:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Trying to say that Disney's box office issues is due to nerds being upset online is silly as fuck.

Which movies failed because they weren't comic accurate

All of them and also the tv shows too, except for Guardians of the Galaxy 3.

And now Sony is wanting in on the go for broke action with their Spider-Man spin-offs.

The only Marvel movie that actually looks good on the horizon is Deadpool 3. Because it respects the source material and fan expectations.


---
"Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN
... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie
04/04/24 1:40:22 AM
#107:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Trying to say that Disney's box office issues is due to nerds being upset online is silly as fuck.

Which movies failed because they weren't comic accurate

That's not what I was saying at all. I was saying that they were sparking outrage for viral marketing purposes -- like when they showed the ugly Spider-Man costume before Homecoming. People got upset thinking that was all he was going to get when really it was just a tease to get people talking. But this has the added bonus of categorizing themselves as progressives.

Tomorrow, YouTube will be abuzz with videos about "woke" Disney, progressive Disney, the awesome history of the female Silver Surfer you never knew, etc. You'll see the same sparring and battle lines being drawn across social media as well.

This will be tantamount to at least $20 million worth of ad campaign and all they had to do was announce that Silver Surfer will be a woman.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 1:42:23 AM
#108:


FortuneCookie posted...
That's not what I was saying at all. I was saying that they were sparking outrage for viral marketing purposes -- like when they showed the ugly Spider-Man costume before Homecoming. People got upset thinking that was all he was going to get when really it was just a tease to get people talking. But this has the added bonus of categorizing themselves as progressives.

This never happened in any meaningful scale. This is something that entirely happened within your head and you think it's a common opinion.

FortuneCookie posted...
Tomorrow, YouTube will be abuzz with videos about "woke" Disney, progressive Disney, the awesome history of the female Silver Surfer you never knew, etc. You'll see the same sparring and battle lines being drawn across social media as well.

They do that anyway. It's content. Disney doesn't actually want weirdos hassling the people who work on these movies.

---
A Fallen Mascot
... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie
04/04/24 1:44:59 AM
#109:


Punished_Blinx posted...
They do that anyway. It's content. Disney doesn't actually want weirdos hassling the people who work on these movies.

It's true that they don't want the actors harassed, but I still say it has an added buzz to it. You think it would get the same response if they announced that a redheaded (male) actor would be playing Mr. Fantastic?
... Copied to Clipboard!
LeoRavus
04/04/24 1:45:28 AM
#110:


Why's the male version completely hairless and the female version have long voluptuous hair?

---
This is where cool people write stuff.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 1:52:36 AM
#111:


FortuneCookie posted...
It's true that they don't want the actors harassed, but I still say it has an added buzz to it. You think it would get the same response if they announced that a redheaded (male) actor would be playing Mr. Fantastic?

It's a comic book movie. Any casting news get buzz. They didn't cast Pedro Pascal to troll you.

It seems kinda obvious that Marvel Studios specifically tries to make these movies as distinct as they possibly can to avoid direct comparisons and to avoid retreading the same ground. It doesn't even look like Doctor Doom will be in F4. If he is it'll likely be a small role or tease.

We already saw this with Spider-Man where they completely skipped over the origin and brought back old villains with the old actors instead of doing them again even though Green Goblin and Doc Ock are generally his biggest antagonists.

---
A Fallen Mascot
... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie
04/04/24 1:56:50 AM
#112:


Punished_Blinx posted...
It's a comic book movie. Any casting news get buzz. They didn't cast Pedro Pascal to troll you.

Alright. Let's wait a week. If the response to this is no greater than the announcement of Pedro Pascal, I'll concede that I was wrong.
... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood
04/04/24 1:58:20 AM
#113:


according to CBR Aunt May was once a Herald

could have been Marissa Tomei

https://www.cbr.com/terrible-heralds-8-awful-heralds-of-galactus-and-7-who-would-be-worse/

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fe28bf7e.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood
04/04/24 2:03:56 AM
#114:


brings a tear to the eye

r.i.p. Nova

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d58fe577.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx
04/04/24 2:29:33 AM
#115:


FortuneCookie posted...
Alright. Let's wait a week. If the response to this is no greater than the announcement of Pedro Pascal, I'll concede that I was wrong.

What do you mean? Do you think this is bigger news? Pedro Pascal is the lead of the movie?

---
A Fallen Mascot
... Copied to Clipboard!
WellKnownNomad
04/04/24 3:19:29 AM
#116:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/59edd735.jpg


---
"Anime is for jerks" - Jeff Gerstmann
... Copied to Clipboard!
squall567
04/04/24 7:07:49 AM
#117:


Actually this is gonna end up being pretty funny since she's gonna be in the crossfire of the anti-zionists and the anti-wokes.
... Copied to Clipboard!
LearntoRead
04/04/24 7:40:00 AM
#118:


This is completely unacceptable. Unless theres a threat of a silver dong flopping out at any given second I cant enjoy a movie. Geez Hollywood get it together.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Juhanor
04/04/24 8:12:07 AM
#119:


https://i.vgy.me/jJ1JTK.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass_X0
04/04/24 8:28:39 AM
#120:


LearntoRead posted...
This is completely unacceptable. Unless theres a threat of a silver dong flopping out at any given second I cant enjoy a movie. Geez Hollywood get it together.

Looks like youve not been paying attention.


---
"Well, it's not a bad game. It's made by Capcom, so how could it?" ~ AVGN
... Copied to Clipboard!
texanfan27
04/04/24 8:29:56 AM
#121:


Honestly, thinking about it. Does it matter if the surfer is male or female for story reasons? Just keep the same story and it be fine.

---
I'm a ? Block. No, punching me won't give you power ups.
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon
04/04/24 8:36:35 AM
#122:


LearntoRead posted...
This is completely unacceptable. Unless theres a threat of a silver dong flopping out at any given second I cant enjoy a movie. Geez Hollywood get it together.

The username to post ratio is off the charts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
LonelyStoner
04/04/24 8:39:26 AM
#123:


texanfan27 posted...
Honestly, thinking about it. Does it matter if the surfer is male or female for story reasons? Just keep the same story and it be fine.
Its just a really underwhelming decision with no real reason for it.

---
He's all alone through the day and night.
... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG
04/04/24 8:52:30 AM
#124:


LonelyStoner posted...
Its just a really underwhelming decision with no real reason for it.
There are now 120+ posts in this topic explaining the reason

Read a few of them
... Copied to Clipboard!
Cobra1010
04/04/24 8:57:59 AM
#125:


texanfan27 posted...
Honestly, thinking about it. Does it matter if the surfer is male or female for story reasons? Just keep the same story and it be fine.

It doesnt matter but they are definitely using it to send a message. That they can do what ever the fuck they want. They dont have to please or satisfy the fans. Its the fans who have to comply.

Now thankfully, im not a fan of fantastic 4. So im just going to sit back on this one and enjoy the popcorn.

---
Load me into the matrix and dont pull the plug
... Copied to Clipboard!
InfinityMonster
04/04/24 8:58:43 AM
#126:


I have feeling we will still see Norrin Radd. If the rumors are true, then this isn't the MCU Silver Surfer.

---
"It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge"
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon
04/04/24 9:02:19 AM
#127:


Cobra1010 posted...
It doesnt matter but they are definitely using it to send a message. That they can do what ever the fuck they want. They dont have to please or satisfy the fans. Its the fans who have to comply.


Oh screw off with that nonsense. Y'all ride the Guardians Of The Galaxy's dick like crazy and it's easily among the least accurate adaptations of source material characters in the entire MCU.

If they're "sending a message", that message was sent a decade ago and we all clapped for it.
... Copied to Clipboard!
[deleted]
04/04/24 9:02:28 AM
#134:


[deleted]
... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8
04/04/24 9:07:39 AM
#128:


Enclave posted...
Super fucking dumb, just use Nova.


---
THE Ohio State: 11-2 | Las Vegas Raiders: 8-9
... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM
04/04/24 9:09:25 AM
#129:


dawg that's Ruth from Ozark.

nice choice!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Kami_no_Kami
04/04/24 9:10:32 AM
#130:


Silver Surfette*
... Copied to Clipboard!
PowerMan5000000
04/04/24 11:28:18 AM
#131:


Silver Surf-her

---
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth?
Galatians 4:16
... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie
04/04/24 11:46:34 AM
#132:


Punished_Blinx posted...
What do you mean? Do you think this is bigger news? Pedro Pascal is the lead of the movie?

Yes, I think it's bigger news. Nobody batted an eye at Invisible Woman being a Latina in the 2000s Fantastic Four movie. Nobody's really getting up in arms about Mr. Fantastic being a Latino in this movie. But you give a male identity to a female character and there's bound to be talk, both good and bad.
... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi
04/04/24 11:48:03 AM
#133:


lolife67 posted...
Exactly. I look forward to the people who say "Don't gender swap. Just use existing characters" to twist themselves into knots over this.

Well, it seems now the conversation has pivoted to "B-b-but Norrin Radd is the most iconic version, why are they doing a character that nobody asked for!"

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I'm confident they will. They're probably going with this version to differentiate it from the "main" universe. Kinda like how Multiverse of Madness had Maria Rambeau as Captain Marvel instead of Carol.

---
I have nothing else to say
... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood
04/04/24 11:50:21 AM
#135:


LearntoRead posted...
This is completely unacceptable. Unless theres a threat of a silver dong flopping out at any given second I cant enjoy a movie. Geez Hollywood get it together.

who says she won't have a silver dong?
... Copied to Clipboard!
FortuneCookie
04/04/24 11:51:46 AM
#136:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Well, it seems now the conversation has pivoted to "B-b-but Norrin Radd is the most iconic version, why are they doing a character that nobody asked for!"

I don't think people have a right to be upset about this if they didn't know his name was Norrin Radd.
... Copied to Clipboard!
lydiaquayle
04/05/24 1:51:47 AM
#137:


Aloc posted...
What is the target audience for these movies
Casual audiences. You don't get to have billion-dollar movies by catering to hardcore nerds.
Guardians of the Galaxy succeeded because the writing was funny, the use of talented actors, and the tone was unique. It definitely wasn't because comic books nerds loved the original source material.

---
[Feminist][CisGender][Straight Supporter][Non-Binary]
I'm not Ashamed to Dress 'like a Woman' because I don't think it's Shameful to be a Woman. ~Iggy Pop~
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon
04/05/24 3:54:47 AM
#138:


lydiaquayle posted...
Guardians of the Galaxy succeeded because the writing was funny, the use of talented actors, and the tone was unique. It definitely wasn't because comic books nerds loved the original source material.

As a comic book nerd and fan of the GotG before the movie was a thing, you're hitting the nail on the head. The only accurate characters are Rocket and Groot, everyone else had "major" things changed ranging from personality, intelligence, appearance, origins, motives,... Starlord being the most egregious.
But the movies get a pass because they're actually good and enjoyable movies even for those that love the source material.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2, 3