Current Events > California Fast-Food Workers Will Get $20 Minimum Wage, Starting Monday

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i said i vaguely read it. But you say that for a fact all panera will get 20 bucks an hr right?

All fine and good but I feel as a retail worker to be more fucked that way. Should have been Food and Retail

TommyVercetti posted...

is this proven fact , so panera will pay 20 bucks an hour? article i said, said they would not. Not certain though. But did you personally believe those allegations against newsom? iirc he did not officially deny them.

You seem really concerned with Panera workers. Care to tell us why?

Not sure how all of this completely works, but where I live (SoCal), I've just noticed that my local fast food prices has been increased.. it's insane now.

A 5 piece spicy chicken tenders in Popeyes is nearly $20.. let that sink in... also had their chicken sandwich. My meal was $30... and worst, the sandwich legit has gotten smaller in size

Baha05 posted...

All fine and good but I feel as a retail worker to be more fucked that way. Should have been Food and Retail

you like working in retail? yeah it should have been

oh no

won't someone think of the poor stockholders

All the price hikes is the reason I stopped eating fast food.

Cooking your own food, or going for frozen stuff like Pizza or chicken nuggets is the way to go.

Dancedreamer posted...

In Denmark McDonalds workers make $22/hour
In Denmark, a Big Mac costs only a little more than it does here.

Weird how that works, and weird how you people never seem to bring that up. Oh right, it's not. You're just bitching about people making more money because you want to keep people poor because you think you're better than them.

While I get the point you're trying to make, you can't compare the economic breakdown of a country with 330+ Million people with one that's approximately the size of Wisconsin.

Heavy_D_Forever posted...

Seattle currently has a $20 minimum wage. Fast food prices within the past 6 months have increased pretty substantially. Right now a Big Mac combo meal is around $14 which is absurd.

Even with the increased minimum wage the restaurants are still usually completely understaffed. With the ridiculous prices and bad customer service I've pretty much stopped eating at any fast food places in Seattle now.

Interesting. Glad to hear from someone whos actually been around this and seen what happens.

Well, if nothing else, we'll be able to see what happens.

I really don't think $20/hr is especially high if you compare historical min wage versus CPI.

$15/hr was outrageous ten or so years ago when that controversy first flared up but these days I feel like $20/hr is perhaps a little high but not crazy.

I can see why McDonald's and other fast food places are so expensive these days. Paying that much money out for workers

Rikishi posted...

I can see why McDonald's and other fast food places are so expensive these days. Paying that much money out for workers

it might also have something to do with their CEO making about $8500/hr

Anyone remember when McDonald's and burger King had actually dollar menus?? Like where the things cost a dollar. Long time gone for sure

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Right now a Big Mac combo meal is around $14 which is absurd.

It's like $13 here in Virginia which is a right to work state

It is absurd because the labor involved in making a Big Mac meal, even at $20/hr, doesn't justify a $14 price tag. It's all corporate profits and returns to shareholders who don't even work there. Gotta maintain that 3% growth per quarter above all else

thronedfire2 posted...

it might also have something to do with their CEO making about $8500/hr

If you divide that by the number of Big Macs sold per hour, though...

Rikishi posted...

Anyone remember when McDonald's and burger King had actually dollar menus?? Like where the things cost a dollar. Long time gone for sure

Federal minimum wage was 7.25 back then.

ClayGuida posted...

Federal minimum wage was 7.25 back then.

thats what it is now as well

oh hey lol some guy thinks that a 7.25/hr minimum wage is a thing of the past, let's all laugh at him

This is communism!

repubs, probs

thronedfire2 posted...

thats what it is now as well

Damn. Still?

A hash brown at McDonald's is like 3.50 now

The federal minimum wage is two McDonald's hashbrowns per hour and that's totally sustainable and good, nothing wrong with that

If we pay people a living wage, we might have to pay people a whole hash brown per hour and that would be unsustainable

GranTurismo posted...

you like working in retail? yeah it should have been

Not really but it has its pros, mostly the crazy shit with customers I get. But yeah Retail and Food Service should have both had the spikes considering its two jobs that are pretty much core jobs to society and both industries rank in a fuck load of money.

Baha05 posted...

Not really but it has its pros, mostly the crazy shit with customers I get. But yeah Retail and Food Service should have both had the spikes considering its two jobs that are pretty much core jobs to society and both industries rank in a fuck load of money.

what kind of crazy stuff with customers?

on one hand seeing some of the people who work at mcd's getting $20 for a job they dont give a shit about or put much (if any) effort into kinda pisses me off. on the other hand if you actually wanted to do your job well and are in it for the long haul, its still not enough (especially in cali) for the amount of bullshit and stress you have to put up with on a daily basis.

i worked as a crew trainer and maintenance tech for McDonald's for a few years and iv never gotten burnt out on a job like i did on that one. at the store i worked at in michigan ended up giving everyone a $2 increase in their hourly pay to help gte more employees in the door, which worked, but it also meant the higher ups also cut a lot of corners (like cutting my 40hour weeks down to 32, which negated the price increase and the bosses would do everything in their power, more so, to make sure you didnt get over time even if their business suffered for it) and on top of that it lead to the more skilled people leaving due to the new increase of kids not caring about the job which made the vets have to do extra work and piled on even more stress. plus the bosses cheaped out further in other ways like less produce/item buys (which meant we ran out sooner if we happened to get some unforeseen rushes in the week), less maintenance on the back end (which made my job hard since i had to do more when i had to it) and ended up making the overall service portion especially suffer from people not being able to get the time they need to properly learn stuff due to cut hours and the rush nature of the job.

while it needed to happen regardless, i guess what im getting at is dont expect the increase to mean much. dont underestimate peoples greed and cheapness. the people in charge WILL find a way to screw you out of that extra money.

Just learned that Denmark McDonald's give their employees 6 weeks vacation annually, pay them 22 an hour, and give employees a year of maternity leave, their big mac is the same price as ours.

Wutup

Yadoken posted...

They will reap what they sow in a few years when the unintended consequences start rolling in.

sounds like retaliation which is illegal

ClayGuida posted...

Just learned that Denmark McDonald's give their employees 6 weeks vacation annually, pay them 22 an hour, and give employees a year of maternity leave, their big mac is the same price as ours.

Wutup

Americans are gullible and say stupid stuff like we see in this thread.
"BiGmAcGoInG Up!"
"everyone will be fired!"

It is why they get away with doing certain things and think the public will pay millions in taxes for a billionaire family to remodel a stadium the public doesn't get to truly own.

Fast food CEOs make hundreds, often, thousands of dollars per hour and raise their prices over the years regardless. No one bats an eye.

Fast food workers get a bump in pay. Those same rich as fuck CEOs keep raising prices that they were already doing anyway. People flip their shit and blame the workers.

*American jazz hands*

Heineken14 posted...

Fast food CEOs make hundreds, often, thousands of dollars per hour and raise their prices over the years regardless. No one bats an eye.

Fast food workers get a bump in pay. Those same rich as fuck CEOs keep raising prices that they were already doing anyway. People flip their shit and blame the workers.

*American jazz hands*

TRUE!
They have been raising prices every year since 2020 and multiples times are year in some cases. No one really complained about it (I did) but said "oh they HAD to!"

Now they give workers a raise, "NO IT WILL RAISE THE PRICE"

Can't fix what wants to be broken I suppose

After learning the current price of fast food in California - it makes all the corporate bootlicker arguments even weaker.

The big macs are already ridiculously overpriced, may as well make it so fast food workers can buy fast food on their wages? Also seem these fast food chains make massive profits even if they have to pay their workers a living wage.

Torgo posted...

After learning the current price of fast food in California - it makes all the corporate bootlicker arguments even weaker.

The big macs are already ridiculously overpriced, may as well make it so fast food workers can buy fast food on their wages? Also seem these fast food chains make massive profits even if they have to pay their workers a living wage.

It didn't have weight to begin with. They tried to do this same shit when talk of $15/hour was mentioned a few years ago. You had the same exact shit of "Oh, you want to pay $20 for X item, cause that's what's gonna happen!!11" Then it was pointed out that places like Seattle already had $15/hour and they weren't paying $20 for their shit and... then nothing. People just ignored it and kept saying if you raise worker wages you will have to pay $20 for a Big Mac.

WingsOfGood posted...

TRUE!
They have been raising prices every year since 2020 and multiples times are year in some cases. No one really complained about it (I did) but said "oh they HAD to!"

No they give workers a raise, "NO IT WILL RAISE THE PRICE"

Can't fix what wants to be broken I suppose

That's because wealth funded think tanks created an enemy and villain out of fast food workers the same way they did to public school teachers.

Now you aren't mad at nebulous arbitrary price increases - No, now it's those POORS working their miserable jobs they should be getting down on their knees and thanking their corporate overlords for - and also trying to claim these aren't real jobs they're just after school work for high schoolers to build character.

Blaming the workers is news to me. Why would they be responsible for the price hikes?

Everyone I know insists Biden is raising food costs.

Torgo posted...

After learning the current price of fast food in California - it makes all the corporate bootlicker arguments even weaker.

The big macs are already ridiculously overpriced, may as well make it so fast food workers can buy fast food on their wages? Also seem these fast food chains make massive profits even if they have to pay their workers a living wage.

But not as massive as they could have made if they were allowed to basically have slaves.

People still acting as if prices were not going to go up anyways and have not been going up this whole time?

mistymermaid posted...

Everyone I know insists Biden is raising food costs.

is everyone you know hardcore maga who only get news from conspiracy theory facebook posts?

mistymermaid posted...

Blaming the workers is news to me.

Dude... I envy that you can turn off the news so you can never hear these persistent talking points across mainstream media and conservative media, and yet still come here and post as though you follow the news.

mistymermaid posted...

Why would they be responsible for the price hikes?

Well obviously the idea is to claim that paying higher wages would force companies to raise prices in order to continue projected profit growth, because that's our economic model. Massive profits are not enough, the profits must also increase in % continually every quarter.

But Americans would rather cry for the billionaire shareholder possibly making slightly less profit this quarter than thousands and thousands of American workers struggling to pay bills or losing jobs.

mistymermaid posted...

Everyone I know insists Biden is raising food costs.

That's because you are a right winger and those around you blame Biden for everything anyway.

Torgo posted...

Dude... I envy that you can turn off the news so you can never hear these persistent talking points across mainstream media and conservative media, and yet still come here and post as though you follow the news.

Well obviously the idea is to claim that paying higher wages would force companies to raise prices in order to continue projected profit growth, because that's our economic model. Massive profits are not enough, the profits must also increase in % continually every quarter.

But Americans would rather cry for the billionaire shareholder possibly making slightly less profit this quarter than thousands and thousands of American workers struggling to pay bills or losing jobs.

That's because you are a right winger and those around you blame Biden for everything anyway.

What? I said the talking point was news to me.

I might not fully understand how, but I wish to be far left. How do I "become" a left winger, in your eyes?

Of course, they have a $20 minimum wage. California is ridiculous expensive for everyone except the uber rich.

mistymermaid posted...

What? I said the talking point was news to me.

I envy you being able to be a conservative and also to not hear a decades old, often repeated talking point they trot out every single time wage increases are discussed.

That's pretty amazing luck, especially since everyone else here seems to have heard this talking point over and over directly from conservatives across media repeatedly.

Torgo posted...

I envy you being able to be a conservative and also to not hear a decades old, often repeated talking point they trot out every single time wage increases are discussed.

That's pretty amazing luck, especially since everyone else here seems to have heard this talking point over and over directly from conservatives across media repeatedly.

I despise conservatives, and refuse to listen to conservative media.

Anyone post that pic of prices at a fast food restaurant raising only something like 15 cents after the new minimum wage law went into effect?

mistymermaid posted...

I might not fully understand how, but I wish to be far left. How do I "become" a left winger, in your eyes?

1. Do you believe Biden is raising food prices?
2. If you do, how does he do that?

seriously answer both and you might have a path to not being far right

The prices of the meals are continuously going up regardless. There needs to be legislation (lol) to stop this price gouging shit. Maybe then we wouldn't need general wages to increase. It's all a fuckin' pipe dream.

Xenogears15 posted...

Anyone post that pic of prices at a fast food restaurant raising only something like 15 cents after the new minimum wage law went into effect?

Ive seen it one twitter. Those End Wokeness guys are a bunch of whiners, especially when fast food prices have been rising for awhile now.

Heineken14 posted...

Fast food CEOs make hundreds, often, thousands of dollars per hour and raise their prices over the years regardless. No one bats an eye.

Fast food workers get a bump in pay. Those same rich as fuck CEOs keep raising prices that they were already doing anyway. People flip their shit and blame the workers.

*American jazz hands*

Yep! Like the fact that everything costs way more than it used to despite wages stagnating for years. But it's raising minimum wage that's the problem