Current Events > Will RFK Jr act more as spoiler for Trump or Biden?

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wackyteen
03/28/24 7:59:23 AM
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He has some positions that appeal to one party but repels the other (like purportedly pro-LGBT; but also is anti-vax).

But will he act as a spoiler?

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andel
03/28/24 8:05:47 AM
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he will probably take votes from both candidates to some extent but will almost certainly take more trump votes since 'lunatic conspiracy theorist' has much more overlap with trump

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UnsteadyOwl
03/28/24 8:10:08 AM
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My guess is most of the votes he gets will be from people who otherwise wouldn't have voted and he won't be a deciding factor in the outcome.

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UnfairRepresent
03/28/24 8:11:56 AM
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He won't effect the outcome at all

He'll have a smaller effect on Trump supporters since it was all the far right media sources platforming him

That said nearly all the people watching those will vote Trump anyway.

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name_unknown
03/28/24 1:04:10 PM
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adding to the topic RFK Jr has his VP picked and is not Aaron Rodgers after all, Nicole Shanahan and questions IVF.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/28/robert-f-kennedy-vice-president-nicole-shanahan-ivf-00149523

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s running mate has been a harsh critic of in vitro fertilization, while funding alternative research on extending womens reproductive years.
Nicole Shanahan has for years denounced IVF calling it one of the biggest lies thats being told about womens health today.
At the same time, she has also been a vocal proponent of and financial backer for unconventional research into the possibility of helping women having children into their 50s and exploring no-cost interventions to help women conceive, such as exposure to sunlight.
Im not sure that there has been a really thorough mitochondrial respiration study on the effects of two hours of morning sunlight on reproductive health. I would love to fund something like that, Shanahan said to a 2023 panel with the National Academy of Medicine, a group to which she had previously donated $100 million.
The statement was met with chuckles, Yeah, lets do it, she added. I just have an intuition that could be interesting and maybe work.
As a candidate, her criticisms of IVF have taken on heightened importance following an Alabama Supreme Courts ruling that embryos are children, which briefly forced clinics in the states to pause operations. Republicans and Democrats including both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump rushed to defend the procedure, which is broadly popular.
The 38-year-olds opposition to IVF and skepticism of the fertility industry makes her an outlier in the presidential field though she has not called for banning the procedure.
Kennedy has not weighed in on IVF access, and has made conflicting comments about abortion access. At the Iowa State Fair, Kennedy, 70, said he supported a ban on abortion after 15 or 21 weeks of pregnancy, but then his campaign said he misunderstood the question and does not support such a ban.
In multiple interviews, Shanahan has been public about how she feels about the IVF industry, including one as recently as this February.
It became abundantly clear that we just dont have enough science for the things that we are telling and selling women, Shanahan told the Australian Financial Review. Its one of the biggest lies thats being told about womens health today, she said.

And in a personal essay for People Magazine in 2022, in which she detailed her split from her ex-husband and Google co-founder Sergey Brin, she said, I believe IVF is sold irresponsibly, and in my own experience with natural childbirth has led me to understand that the fertility industry is deeply flawed.

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ClayGuida
03/28/24 1:07:52 PM
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Probably Trump. Normally these types of people spoil for Dems, but he doesn't really have much Dem clout other than his name, and he's on Fox non stop, which also doesn't hurt Dems either.

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archizzy
03/28/24 1:09:51 PM
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He will take some votes that would otherwise mostly be for Trump. But he isnt impacting the election as Trump cant beat Biden anyway and will do worse than last time. This election is already decided unless Biden dies before November.

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wackyteen
03/28/24 4:59:31 PM
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name_unknown posted...
adding to the topic RFK Jr has his VP picked and is not Aaron Rodgers after all, Nicole Shanahan and questions IVF.
Man, Aaron Rodgers as VP after being NFL MVP multiple times would've been wild

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DrizztLink
03/28/24 5:14:40 PM
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name_unknown posted...
"Im not sure that there has been a really thorough mitochondrial respiration study on the effects of two hours of morning sunlight on reproductive health."
Well, Nicole, that's because it's fucking stupid.

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Tanthalas
03/28/24 5:42:14 PM
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name_unknown posted...
Im not sure that there has been a really thorough mitochondrial respiration study on the effects of two hours of morning sunlight on reproductive health. I would love to fund something like that,
I mean, if you want to fund it, good for you. I doubt it'll lead to anything, but you never know I suppose.

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03/28/24 7:02:52 PM
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ClayGuida
03/28/24 9:27:28 PM
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1773504048173404198


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Kradek
03/28/24 9:30:14 PM
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When he first came onto the scene Republican media was overhyping him because they thought he'd take more from Biden. Over time they greatly toned that down and then began criticizing him because it actually showed he'd take more from Trump. The more he talked and the further he went into right-wing dipshittery the more the numbers flipped from Dem support to Republican.

That's based on polling, though, and I don't trust polling to be accurate predictors of future elections.

I don't really care who he takes more from, either way he's an anti-vaxx Putin propagandist who should fuck all the way off until society forgets he even exists. Ok, I actually do care if he would take more from Biden than Trump. Just saying I hope he drops out before it even becomes relevant.

Also, his chosen VP came out as anti-IVF lol, talk about a fucked up ticket of fucked up people.

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Zero_Destroyer
03/28/24 9:36:56 PM
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He is absolutely going to mostly take votes from Trump. I don't think it'll matter either way but the Kennedy-obsessed conspiracy base is going to be his main demographic.

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SwordMaster13X
03/28/24 9:46:14 PM
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Zero_Destroyer posted...
He is absolutely going to mostly take votes from Trump. I don't think it'll matter either way but the Kennedy-obsessed conspiracy base is going to be his main demographic.

Trump should have picked him as VP to fulfilling the QAnon prophecy of JFK Jr becoming Trumps Vice President but then they could have said we didnt mean JFK JR, we meant RFK Jr lol


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Notti
03/31/24 5:55:25 AM
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I remember when he first started running and some trumpies tried to tell me now it's all over for Biden now.

Still laughing

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Revelation34
03/31/24 5:57:15 AM
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None. He would be on par with Darth Vader being Luke's father

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