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03/27/24 10:02:16 PM
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Trumble
03/28/24 12:42:47 AM
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So, usual disclaimers first. Game is given as a Humble gift link which gives a Steam key; you need a Steam account but you don't need a Humble account. The game is a mystery until someone wins. If you already have it (or don't want it) you can do whatever you like with it.

For this one, we're going to play a (sort of) game of Zendo.

The game revolves around whether words fit a set of secret rules that I've come up with. Ultimately, the goal is to figure out what these rules are. In order to do so, you may nominate words and I will reveal whether or not they fit the rules.

Each round, you may either nominate up to three words, or make one guess at the rules. Exception; no guesses at the rules can be made during the first round. The round ends when I make a post answering the status of nominated words / guesses at the rules, and then the new round begins right away. (If anyone posts while I'm writing up said post, I'll edit it to include the affected post.)

You do not have to guess the exact wording of the rules, as long as your guess is functionally equivalent. (For example, if I had two rules "the word must start and end with the same letter" and "the word must end with a vowel", it would be acceptable if someone's guess was "the word must start and end with a vowel".) If a guess is incorrect, I will give a counterexample word - this may either be a word that fits the guessed rules but doesn't fit the actual rules; or a word that fits the actual rules but doesn't fit the guessed rules.

Also, to be clear, there is no requirement that the "words" you nominate be actual English words. They can be nonsense strings of letters if you like. Letters only, though.

There's also no rule against cooperating to try and figure it out if you like, but ultimately the prize goes to the first person to post the correct guess at the rules.

To start you off with, here are some words that do and don't fit:

Fit
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CALIFORNIA
FREEZING
POOPIE
ROTATION

Don't fit
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BATTLE
CHEESE
GAMEFAQS
URANUS

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GATTJT
03/28/24 1:34:09 AM
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Guess I'll nominate some words

NOMINATE
DEXTERITY
SENSUOUS

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EvilResident
03/28/24 10:24:21 AM
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West
cold
Spinner

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03/28/24 1:02:36 PM
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Trumble
03/28/24 2:02:20 PM
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Fit
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CALIFORNIA
FREEZING
POOPIE
ROTATION
SENSUOUS

Don't fit
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BATTLE
CHEESE
COLD
DEXTERITY
GAMEFAQS
NOMINATE
SPINNER
URANUS
WEST

This doesn't seem very popular, so if it doesn't pick up traction I might just abandon this and give away the game another way.

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GATTJT
03/28/24 2:13:52 PM
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If you abandon it, let us know what the rules were, because I am curious

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Trumble
03/28/24 2:20:57 PM
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GATTJT posted...
If you abandon it, let us know what the rules were, because I am curious
I will. I might even just keep it going as a "just for fun" game if it's gonna take too long for the giveaway but one or two people are still interested.

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texanfan27
03/28/24 2:38:08 PM
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Arizona
dodge
safety

this is interesting, Im thinking I got one of the rules possibly. But its a challenge.

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Harpie
03/28/24 2:51:42 PM
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Journal
I
Symbiotic

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Trumble
03/28/24 2:57:06 PM
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Fit
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CALIFORNIA
FREEZING
JOURNAL
POOPIE
ROTATION
SENSUOUS

Don't fit
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ARIZONA
BATTLE
CHEESE
COLD
DEXTERITY
DODGE
GAMEFAQS
I
NOMINATE
SAFETY
SPINNER
SYMBIOTIC
URANUS
WEST

(Bold just indicates the new nominations from this round.)

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Harpie
03/28/24 3:02:12 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/d1447ac1.jpg
Okay what about:

Rotations
Condemnation
Helping

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Ricemills
03/28/24 3:03:43 PM
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I don't understand the rules

Weather
Wind
Squall

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Trumble
03/28/24 3:14:14 PM
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Fit
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CALIFORNIA
FREEZING
JOURNAL
POOPIE
ROTATION
ROTATIONS
SENSUOUS

Don't fit
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ARIZONA
BATTLE
CHEESE
COLD
CONDEMNATION
DEXTERITY
DODGE
GAMEFAQS
HELPING
I
NOMINATE
SAFETY
SPINNER
SQUALL
SYMBIOTIC
URANUS
WEATHER
WEST
WIND

A tip: Try thinking of possible rules and seeing if there are any counterexamples. For example, you could consider if "must have an even number of letters" is a rule. You'd then want to see if any words with odd numbers of letters fit - if yes, then that can't be a rule. Even-lettered words not fitting could just be because the specific words don't fit another one of the rules, so you can't put so much weight on that.

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Crimsoness
03/28/24 3:15:47 PM
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Burritos
Tacos
Chicken

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Trumble
03/28/24 3:17:42 PM
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Ricemills posted...
I don't understand the rules
What part? I'm happy to try and explain better.

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GATTJT
03/28/24 3:26:43 PM
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Can you tell us how many rules there are? >_>

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Trumble
03/28/24 3:28:44 PM
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GATTJT posted...
Can you tell us how many rules there are? >_>
I'll reveal this if no one's won by 50 posts.

Edit: Actually, let's make that 30. Next time a round ends after the topic reaches 30 posts (assuming people don't spam just to reach that), I'll reveal the number of rules.

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Harpie
03/28/24 3:28:44 PM
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Trumble pls
In your humble trumble opinion should the rules be clear at this point?

My next 3 are:
Freeze
Cheesing
Coop

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Trumble
03/28/24 3:30:18 PM
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Harpie posted...
Trumble pls
In your humble trumble opinion should the rules be clear at this point?
I think there's at least some that wouldn't be completely clear yet.

Also, you can only nominate words or guess the rules in a single round, not both.


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Harpie
03/28/24 3:31:23 PM
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Trumble posted...
I think there's at least some that wouldn't be completely clear yet.

Also, you can only nominate words or guess the rules in a single round, not both.
Hmmm fair enough

Okay Ill nominate my words this round then!

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Beany
03/28/24 3:31:43 PM
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flotation
orifice
conflagration

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Guide
03/28/24 3:32:27 PM
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Pal
Guy
Dope

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Trumble
03/28/24 3:37:37 PM
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Fit
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CALIFORNIA
CHEESING
COOP
FLOTATION
FREEZE
FREEZING
JOURNAL
POOPIE
ROTATION
ROTATIONS
SENSUOUS

Don't fit
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ARIZONA
BATTLE
BURRITOS
CHEESE
CHICKEN
COLD
CONDEMNATION
CONFLAGRATION
DEXTERITY
DODGE
DOPE
GAMEFAQS
GUY
HELPING
I
NOMINATE
ORIFICE
PAL
SAFETY
SPINNER
SQUALL
SYMBIOTIC
TACOS
URANUS
WEATHER
WEST
WIND


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Beany
03/28/24 3:38:56 PM
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nation
ration
libation

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Harpie
03/28/24 3:40:15 PM
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Okay we gotta work together on this pls

Its got something to do with double vowels. But Im losing my MIND because why is CHEESING allowed when CHEESE is not

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Guide
03/28/24 3:41:28 PM
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Guessing a rule: Word must have two vowels in a row

dangit harpie, edit your posts faster so i can know things

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Trumble
03/28/24 3:43:23 PM
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Keep in mind it's a set of rules, not just one rule. You must guess the entire set at once to win.

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Harpie
03/28/24 3:43:39 PM
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Guide posted...
Guessing a rule: Word must have two vowels in a row

dangit harpie, edit your posts faster so i can know things
Wait we can guess at single rules? :0
Edit: Nvm we cannot lol

lmfao pull ur weight what else have you noticed

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Guide
03/28/24 3:45:11 PM
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fucking lmao dammit


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Trumble
03/28/24 3:46:08 PM
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Guide posted...
fucking lmao dammit
You can retract that guess if you like, since it seems you misunderstood exactly how guessing the rules work. I probably could've explained it better tbh.

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Beany
03/28/24 3:48:23 PM
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Not guessing just noticing, they all have an o a c or a double e.

Not sure if that would be considered a rule but idk what kind of rules were working with here lol

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Trumble
03/28/24 3:58:15 PM
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Guessing a rule: Word must have two vowels in a row
Counterexample: AARDVARK has two vowels in a row but does not fit the rules.

Fit
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CALIFORNIA
CHEESING
COOP
FLOTATION
FREEZE
FREEZING
JOURNAL
LIBATION
NATION
POOPIE
RATION
ROTATION
ROTATIONS
SENSUOUS

Don't fit
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AARDVARK
ARIZONA
BATTLE
BURRITOS
CHEESE
CHICKEN
COLD
CONDEMNATION
CONFLAGRATION
DEXTERITY
DODGE
DOPE
FUCK
GAMEFAQS
GUY
HELPING
I
NOMINATE
ORIFICE
PAL
POSTING
SAFETY
SHIT
SPINNER
SQUALL
SYMBIOTIC
TACOS
URANUS
WEATHER
WEST
WIND

I said I'd reveal it now so: I've chosen five rules. However, it would also be very reasonable to write them as four rules instead (with the exact same result as to what does or doesn't fit).

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GATTJT
03/28/24 4:27:57 PM
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I think one of the rules is "begins with a consonant" (this isn't a guess, just speculation)

If I can nominate some more words:

BEAUTIFUL
MATURE
ZOOLOGY

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Crimsoness
03/28/24 4:30:01 PM
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Something to do with the letter "tion"

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03/28/24 5:27:51 PM
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Fit
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BEAUTIFUL
CALIFORNIA
CHEESING
COOP
FLOTATION
FREEZE
FREEZING
JOURNAL
LIBATION
NATION
POOPIE
RATION
ROTATION
ROTATIONS
SENSUOUS

Don't fit
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AARDVARK
ARIZONA
BATTLE
BURRITOS
CHEESE
CHICKEN
COLD
CONDEMNATION
CONFLAGRATION
DEXTERITY
DODGE
DOPE
FUCK
GAMEFAQS
GUY
HELPING
I
MATURE
NOMINATE
ORIFICE
PAL
POSTING
SAFETY
SHIT
SPINNER
SQUALL
SYMBIOTIC
TACOS
URANUS
WEATHER
WEST
WIND
ZOOLOGY

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texanfan27
03/28/24 6:24:24 PM
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Bastion
Floating
Eaten

got a theory

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texanfan27
03/28/24 6:29:16 PM
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Likely guesses for rules are. This is not a guess, just theory crafting

begins with a consonant
two vowels next to each other

im wondering if syllables play a part. That explains cheese failing, but chees-ing works. Coop oddly is a two syllable word as well

now whats the last two?

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Trumble
03/28/24 6:29:47 PM
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Fit
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BASTION
BEAUTIFUL
CALIFORNIA
CHEESING
COOP
FLOATING
FLOTATION
FREEZE
FREEZING
JOURNAL
LIBATION
NATION
POOPIE
RATION
ROTATION
ROTATIONS
SENSUOUS

Don't fit
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AARDVARK
ARIZONA
BATTLE
BURRITOS
CHEESE
CHICKEN
COLD
CONDEMNATION
CONFLAGRATION
DEXTERITY
DODGE
DOPE
EATEN
FUCK
GAMEFAQS
GUY
HELPING
I
MATURE
NOMINATE
ORIFICE
PAL
POSTING
SAFETY
SHIT
SPINNER
SQUALL
SYMBIOTIC
TACOS
URANUS
WEATHER
WEST
WIND
ZOOLOGY

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texanfan27
03/28/24 6:36:50 PM
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Confirmation
wither
vitreus

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Trumble
03/28/24 6:40:10 PM
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Fit
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ASCENSION
BASTION
BEAUTIFUL
CALIFORNIA
CHEESING
COOP
FLOATING
FLOTATION
FREEZE
FREEZING
JOURNAL
LIBATION
NATION
POOPIE
RATION
ROTATION
ROTATIONS
SENSUOUS
SOUP
VITREOUS

Don't fit
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AARDVARK
ARIZONA
BATTLE
BURRITOS
CHEESE
CHICKEN
COLD
CONDEMNATION
CONFIRMATION
CONFLAGRATION
DEXTERITY
DODGE
DOPE
EATEN
FUCK
GAMEFAQS
GUY
HELPING
I
MATURE
NOMINATE
ORIFICE
PAL
POSTING
SAFETY
SHIT
SPINNER
SQUALL
SYMBIOTIC
TACOS
TREPIDATIONS
URANUS
WEATHER
WITHER
WEST
WIND
ZOOLOGY

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Harpie
03/28/24 6:49:41 PM
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These are my 3 guesses:
Rotational
Free
Ecuador

texanfan27 posted...
Likely guesses for rules are. This is not a guess, just theory crafting

begins with a consonant
two vowels next to each other

im wondering if syllables play a part. That explains cheese failing, but chees-ing works. Coop oddly is a two syllable word as well

now whats the last two?
Begins with a consonant is a great guess! I don't think it has to do with syllables thought, since we have Freeze (1) and California (4) both fitting, and Cold (1) and Condemnation (4) not working
EDIT: Doesn't have to begin with a consonant ._.

These rules must be very lax, since we're getting so many words that fit despite it being filtered through 5 rules lol. I'm not sure if that's helpful though

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GATTJT
03/28/24 7:03:30 PM
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I really thought I had one rule figured out with the consonant thing lol

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texanfan27
03/28/24 7:08:29 PM
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Dwarfing
Sweetheart
Procreation

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texanfan27
03/28/24 7:10:13 PM
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GATTJT posted...
I really thought I had one rule figured out with the consonant thing lol

it was looking that way for a bit, looks like we are still on the two vowel next to each other rule being likely.

this will come down to eliminating options likely.

edit:
CONDEMNATION
CONFIRMATION
CONFLAGRATION

why do these three fail? Its not the C start cause California. Its not tion ended cause rotation. There is a hint here. Anyone know any good words that start with con- or similar?


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SydnieStarlight
03/28/24 7:26:27 PM
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This seems kinda fun! I'll follow up on on the post about "cons" with these (edit) nominations:

Conglomerate
Consecrate
Abscond

(I just wanted to be clear about my word choice!)

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Trumble
03/28/24 7:51:27 PM
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Fit
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ASCENSION
BASTION
BEAUTIFUL
CALIFORNIA
CHEESING
COOP
ECUADOR
FLOATING
FLOTATION
FREE
FREEZE
FREEZING
JOURNAL
LIBATION
NATION
POOPIE
RATION
ROTATION
ROTATIONAL
ROTATIONS
SENSUOUS
SOUP
SWEETHEART
VITREOUS

Don't fit
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AARDVARK
ABSCOND
ARIZONA
BATTLE
BURRITOS
CHEESE
CHICKEN
COLD
CONDEMNATION
CONFIRMATION
CONFLAGRATION
CONGLOMERATE
CONSECRATE
DEXTERITY
DODGE
DOPE
DWARFING
EATEN
FUCK
GAMEFAQS
GUY
HELPING
I
MATURE
NOMINATE
ORIFICE
PAL
POSTING
PROCREATION
SAFETY
SHIT
SPINNER
SQUALL
SYMBIOTIC
TACOS
TREPIDATIONS
URANUS
WEATHER
WITHER
WEST
WIND
ZOOLOGY

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Trumble
03/28/24 8:05:42 PM
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Just a reminder too that you don't have to use real words. (However, stick to letters only. No numbers or symbols.)

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