Board 8 > CYOF Mafia Day 2.2

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Lopen 03/28/24 11:26:11 AM #451:	So here's how it is Yes I obviously thought Kirby and possibly Lea were scum. My mind doing as it does jumped to scum thinking the game was in hand if mzero didn't get caught because why would scum shoot Lea. Anyway once Mzero declared he had a million ways to not die it became clear to me that he probably doesn't bluff about that as scum. His unwillingness to share his remaining abilities felt townish I decided to go back and reread day 2. Mzero was hinting day scan WAY before Ulti was under super heat. I personally don't believe he would plan this as a gambit that far in advance as he would need an actual day scan ability to use it on town. Ergo probably just town with an imo poorly designed jack. And Lea was probably shot because she would have stopped Kirby from just being steamrolled What I did find odd was that FD did not say this and started to feed into my suspicions to start the day. I decided to look into him and found some choice stuff from Ulti about them having scanned FD as a fourth alignment or whatever Lea said a very interesting question "why would scum have an alignment scan" and it's like yeah why would they. FD didn't argue that he wasn't 4th alignment, just that Ulti was trying to set him up So either Ulti was right about his 4th alignment because they have a scan that would make no sense for scum to have or he's right about his 4th alignment because he has MZero's dayscan ability Thinking FD is their GF and that's in his ability somewhere. I am however more than willing to lynch Wallz today if people would prefer as his opportunism is way beyond the pale at the moment. He basically jumped back on me immediately when the court of Public opinion allowed after spending the tail end of yesterday saying I might be town --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979607271] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>So here's how it isYes I obviously thought Kirby and possibly Lea were scum. My mind doing as it does jumped to scum thinking the game was in hand if mzero didn't get caught because why would scum shoot Lea. Anyway once Mzero declared he had a million ways to not die it became clear to me that he probably doesn't bluff about that as scum. His unwillingness to share his remaining abilities felt townishI decided to go back and reread day 2. Mzero was hinting day scan WAY before Ulti was under super heat. I personally don't believe he would plan this as a gambit that far in advance as he would need an actual day scan ability to use it on town. Ergo probably just town with an imo poorly designed jack. And Lea was probably shot because she would have stopped Kirby from just being steamrolledWhat I did find odd was that FD did not say this and started to feed into my suspicions to start the day. I decided to look into him and found some choice stuff from Ulti about them having scanned FD as a fourth alignment or whateverLea said a very interesting question "why would scum have an alignment scan" and it's like yeah why would they. FD didn't argue that he wasn't 4th alignment, just that Ulti was trying to set him upSo either Ulti was right about his 4th alignment because they have a scan that would make no sense for scum to have or he's right about his 4th alignment because he has MZero's dayscan abilityThinking FD is their GF and that's in his ability somewhere. I am however more than willing to lynch Wallz today if people would prefer as his opportunism is way beyond the pale at the moment. He basically jumped back on me immediately when the court of Public opinion allowed after spending the tail end of yesterday saying I might be town </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 11:27:40 AM #452:	Lopen posted... he's right about his 4th alignment because he has MZero's dayscan ability By the way this is a joke about him reading scummate role PMs Please don't say I slipped again lol --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979607299] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>he's right about his 4th alignment because he has MZero's dayscan ability</quote>By the way this is a joke about him reading scummate role PMsPlease don't say I slipped again lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 11:28:34 AM #453:	My POE is currently FD Wallz Sultan --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979607319] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>My POE is currently FD Wallz Sultan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 11:29:47 AM #454:	I will say given Ulti's ability is kind of an escape valve for scum sweeping too early I could see the game actually having 5 scum --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979607344] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>I will say given Ulti's ability is kind of an escape valve for scum sweeping too early I could see the game actually having 5 scum </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/28/24 11:54:27 AM #455:	wallmasterz posted... Lopen, why did you say mzero has a super overpowered day scan? If you really think Ulti and mzero are scum together you know mzero can see Ultis role pm without needing a power. That reads like you think MZeros day scan was real and he actually used it on ulti. Why would he need to do that if theyre both scum? chewing bubble gum noises --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:979607759] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>Lopen, why did you say mzero has a super overpowered day scan? If you really think Ulti and mzero are scum together you know mzero can see Ultis role pm without needing a power. That reads like you think MZeros day scan was real and he actually used it on ulti. Why would he need to do that if theyre both scum?</quote>chewing bubble gum noises </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 11:56:21 AM #456:	Mzero himself didn't even believe that when he said that was a slip he was just antagonizing me. I was saying the ability is "super overpowered" as stated because I was theorizing it doesn't exist at all and was quite literally just mzero reading his scummate's role PM --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979607800] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>Mzero himself didn't even believe that when he said that was a slip he was just antagonizing me.I was saying the ability is "super overpowered" as stated because I was theorizing it doesn't exist at all and was quite literally just mzero reading his scummate's role PM </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 11:58:46 AM #457:	Funny thing is you also didn't say the obvious counter argument You should be trying to confirm mzero is town -- there was a much better answer to it not being a bus than "herp why would he bus his teammate that Lea was going to shoot" that I found not you or FD or Sultan. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979607843] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>Funny thing is you also didn't say the obvious counter argumentYou should be trying to confirm mzero is town -- there was a much better answer to it not being a bus than "herp why would he bus his teammate that Lea was going to shoot" that I found not you or FD or Sultan. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 12:17:15 PM #458:	So anyway I noticed when I left with an afk vote on FD the following things happened Wallz ratcheted up aggression Sultan ratcheted up aggression/shade Everyone else kinda just was like "ok why" Meaning if FD is actually scum your remaining scum is almost certainly in Wallz and Sultan. And I kinda think it could be both. (Chris did too but he's town because scum never shoots Kirby there-- he's just wrong, probably roleplaying again cause we like being wrong) --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979608089] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>So anyway I noticed when I left with an afk vote on FD the following things happenedWallz ratcheted up aggressionSultan ratcheted up aggression/shadeEveryone else kinda just was like "ok why"Meaning if FD is actually scum your remaining scum is almost certainly in Wallz and Sultan. And I kinda think it could be both. (Chris did too but he's town because scum never shoots Kirby there-- he's just wrong, probably roleplaying again cause we like being wrong) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 03/28/24 12:53:24 PM #459:	MZero posted... how does Chris fit in here? that's the problem. another fuxking shot is a lot of fire power. not even mzero could fire thst many shots. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:979608731] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>MZero posted... </cite><quote>how does Chris fit in here?</quote>that's the problem. another fuxking shot is a lot of fire power. not even mzero could fire thst many shots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 03/28/24 12:59:21 PM #460:	wallmasterz posted... Yeah, 1.264, 1.269, 1.274, 1.287, 1.292 and that is not exhaustive iirc Which it was unfair to say youve done nothing else. I am sorry. Although it did represent a lot of your d1 content. Who do you think is scum sbell? I dont think you have said recently. ok fair. I'd like to go back and read some of that. why was I pulling apart your arguments... maybe that'll refresh my feelings on the matter. who do I think is scum? Still not a Sultan fan and am quicker to believe a scum inventor than a town one, but basing anything on powers is just bad mafia and this also isn't the game for it. Corrok is doing nothing but I've seen him do that as town far more than scum. Lopen is grasping at everything but I'm not sure that that makes him scum. That makes him Lopen. I do want to reevaluate him. mzero took down ulti and supposedly has enough power lined up to keep him alive another few days. wallz is wallz and maybe I just want scum to stick since it's where my brain always goes lately. And I've never been able to read Chris, but he's still alive and he admitted to killing town last night... so the question was who was scum... I guess I start with Sultan and let the pieces fall after that. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:979608846] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, 1.264, 1.269, 1.274, 1.287, 1.292 and that is not exhaustive iircWhich it was unfair to say youve done nothing else. I am sorry. Although it did represent a lot of your d1 content. Who do you think is scum sbell? I dont think you have said recently.</quote>ok fair. I'd like to go back and read some of that. why was I pulling apart your arguments... maybe that'll refresh my feelings on the matter.who do I think is scum? Still not a Sultan fan and am quicker to believe a scum inventor than a town one, but basing anything on powers is just bad mafia and this also isn't the game for it.Corrok is doing nothing but I've seen him do that as town far more than scum.Lopen is grasping at everything but I'm not sure that that makes him scum. That makes him Lopen. I do want to reevaluate him.mzero took down ulti and supposedly has enough power lined up to keep him alive another few days.wallz is wallz and maybe I just want scum to stick since it's where my brain always goes lately.And I've never been able to read Chris, but he's still alive and he admitted to killing town last night...so the question was who was scum... I guess I start with Sultan and let the pieces fall after that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 03/28/24 1:00:40 PM #461:	the 4th alignment conversation has gone over my head. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:979608871] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>the 4th alignment conversation has gone over my head. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 1:11:29 PM #462:	Sbell Here are the posts of note UltimaterializerX posted... Almost forgot. Speaking of FD, he really is a fourth alignment because we scanned him as such. Telling town this doesnt violate any playing to win rules, and we truly dont even know if this makes him not-town in the first place. Call it WIFOM or lying all you want, but both this and that message telling me I should target Andy absolutely did happen night 1. The fact that no one claimed the message means it wasnt sent by town, because that message should auto town confirm given my own alignment. Ergo, it probably wasnt sent by town and we have a third ~~fourth~~ party scan confirmed in the game now. Im like 95% sure FD sent me that message last night. FD is not on my mafia team. This is an absolute truth. He could be town with shenanigans going on, who knows, but the fourth alignment scan happened. Take this as you will. Anyone want to ask questions while Im having my fun? Enchantress posted... I don't know why scum would have an alignment scan so I don't put much stock in it tbh [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Lea correctly points out that scum wouldn't have any reason to have a scan that detects alignments However FD at no point in this conversation outright denies that he has a 4th alignment scan-- he merely says that scum is setting him up and that he will flip town. Forceful_Dragon posted... lol Ulti. Nice posturing, but you and I both know that scum is going to have to to kill me at some point to remove the chance of me lynching scum in low player situations. And when you have to do that I'll be flipped town anyways. What this means is that Ulti was likely right-- the only reason he'd know this is one of the following Scum has an alignment based scan. Ulti read his scummate's role PM and threw some WIFOM in there I am heavily leaning that there are just three scum here (counter balanced by Scare being suicidal and Ulti usually dying at LYLO if scum gets too far ahead) and Wallz/Sultan are pre-emptively attacking me as I suspect FD but I'm not sure. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979609055] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>SbellHere are the posts of noteUltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>Almost forgot.Speaking of FD, he really is a fourth alignment because we scanned him as such. Telling town this doesnt violate any playing to win rules, and we truly dont even know if this makes him not-town in the first place. Call it WIFOM or lying all you want, but both this and that message telling me I should target Andy absolutely did happen night 1. The fact that no one claimed the message means it wasnt sent by town, because that message should auto town confirm given my own alignment. Ergo, it probably wasnt sent by town and we have a third fourth party scan confirmed in the game now. Im like 95% sure FD sent me that message last night.FD is not on my mafia team. This is an absolute truth. He could be town with shenanigans going on, who knows, but the fourth alignment scan happened. Take this as you will.Anyone want to ask questions while Im having my fun?</quote>Enchantress posted... </cite><quote>I don't know why scum would have an alignment scan so I don't put much stock in it tbh</quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Lea correctly points out that scum wouldn't have any reason to have a scan that detects alignmentsHowever FD at no point in this conversation outright denies that he has a 4th alignment scan-- he merely says that scum is setting him up and that he will flip town.Forceful_Dragon posted... </cite><quote>lol Ulti. Nice posturing, but you and I both know that scum is going to have to to kill me at some point to remove the chance of me lynching scum in low player situations. And when you have to do that I'll be flipped town anyways.</quote>What this means is that Ulti was likely right-- the only reason he'd know this is one of the followingScum has an alignment based scan.Ulti read his scummate's role PM and threw some WIFOM in thereI am heavily leaning that there are just three scum here (counter balanced by Scare being suicidal and Ulti usually dying at LYLO if scum gets too far ahead) and Wallz/Sultan are pre-emptively attacking me as I suspect FD but I'm not sure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Obellisk 03/28/24 1:15:35 PM #463:	no I remember the whole ulti accusing fd of 4th alignment and fd not necessarily denying it. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/444acf99.jpg --- (\____/) ( SBell ) <cite>Obellisk posted [p:979609130] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>no I remember the whole ulti accusing fd of 4th alignment and fd not necessarily denying it.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/444acf99.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 1:17:51 PM #464:	Honestly at the moment I want to flip Wallz and see if he has a lylo suicide mechanic like Ulti and Scare both had Perhaps scum is loaded with extra kills and the mechanic that balances them out is that if the game ends too quickly they just all die. Chris jumping to suspecting me now does undoubtedly feel opportunistic-- and a big thing that had me suspecting Wallz was him fishing for how I scanned Chris. Why did Chris bury the Sultan lead so easily when he suspected him day 1 and Sultan had an extra extra kill? I don't see the scum equity for killing Kirby but maybe it's just he thought Kirby might be 3p? Ugh. POE now has Chris back in it. Let's just lynch Wallz and go from there. ##Vote: Wallz --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979609163] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>Honestly at the moment I want to flip Wallz and see if he has a lylo suicide mechanic like Ulti and Scare both hadPerhaps scum is loaded with extra kills and the mechanic that balances them out is that if the game ends too quickly they just all die. Chris jumping to suspecting me now does undoubtedly feel opportunistic-- and a big thing that had me suspecting Wallz was him fishing for how I scanned Chris. Why did Chris bury the Sultan lead so easily when he suspected him day 1 and Sultan had an extra extra kill? I don't see the scum equity for killing Kirby but maybe it's just he thought Kirby might be 3p? Ugh. POE now has Chris back in it. Let's just lynch Wallz and go from there.##Vote: Wallz </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 1:29:17 PM #465:	Official guess Wallz + Sultan + Chris Everyone who thinks I'm town and wants to work together, work to convince me of one of those three. No longer interested in an FD lynch or an MZero lynch. I strongly prefer Wallz of the three but Sultan + Chris are having big scummate energy the longer this game unfolds so I'm willing to listen to arguments for any of the three. I still think if we flipped Chris as GF we'd basically have Wallz caught so there is that to consider if you're feeling it. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979609310] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>Official guessWallz + Sultan + ChrisEveryone who thinks I'm town and wants to work together, work to convince me of one of those three. No longer interested in an FD lynch or an MZero lynch. I strongly prefer Wallz of the three but Sultan + Chris are having big scummate energy the longer this game unfolds so I'm willing to listen to arguments for any of the three. I still think if we flipped Chris as GF we'd basically have Wallz caught so there is that to consider if you're feeling it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/28/24 1:41:03 PM #466:	How did we get from here Lopen posted... However FD at no point in this conversation outright denies that he has a 4th alignment scan-- he merely says that scum is setting him up and that he will flip town. [] I am heavily leaning that there are just three scum here (counter balanced by Scare being suicidal and Ulti usually dying at LYLO if scum gets too far ahead) and Wallz/Sultan are pre-emptively attacking me as I suspect FD but I'm not sure. to here Lopen posted... No longer interested in an FD lynch or an MZero lynch. I strongly prefer Wallz of the three but Sultan + Chris are having big scummate energy the longer this game unfolds so I'm willing to listen to arguments for any of the three. I still think if we flipped Chris as GF we'd basically have Wallz caught so there is that to consider if you're feeling it. --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:979609497] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>How did we get from hereLopen posted... </cite><quote>However FD at no point in this conversation outright denies that he has a 4th alignment scan-- he merely says that scum is setting him up and that he will flip town. []I am heavily leaning that there are just three scum here (counter balanced by Scare being suicidal and Ulti usually dying at LYLO if scum gets too far ahead) and Wallz/Sultan are pre-emptively attacking me as I suspect FD but I'm not sure.</quote>to hereLopen posted... </cite><quote>No longer interested in an FD lynch or an MZero lynch. I strongly prefer Wallz of the three but Sultan + Chris are having big scummate energy the longer this game unfolds so I'm willing to listen to arguments for any of the three. I still think if we flipped Chris as GF we'd basically have Wallz caught so there is that to consider if you're feeling it.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 03/28/24 1:43:52 PM #467:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/user/messages --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:979609542] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/user/messages </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wallmasterz 03/28/24 1:46:05 PM #468:	@ifgodcoulddie that seems like a typo --- I need to update my signature. <cite>wallmasterz posted [p:979609583] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>@ifgodcoulddie that seems like a typo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 1:51:11 PM #469:	wallmasterz posted... pre-emptively attacking me as I suspect FD but I'm not sure We got here with 10 hours of sleeping and digesting the game state and seeing how people reacted to my vote --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979609669] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>wallmasterz posted... </cite><quote>pre-emptively attacking me as I suspect FD but I'm not sure</quote>We got here with 10 hours of sleeping and digesting the game state and seeing how people reacted to my vote </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 03/28/24 2:01:22 PM #470:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80732461 This is what IGCD meant to post --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:979609812] in CYOF Mafia... [t:80731043]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80732461This is what IGCD meant to post </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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