Current Events > Airbnb will now FORBID cameras anywhere inside a rental property.

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wackyteen
03/20/24 12:38:40 PM
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https://news.airbnb.com/an-update-on-our-policy-on-security-cameras/

Airbnb is banning the use of indoor security cameras in listings globally as part of efforts to simplify our policy on security cameras and other devices and to continue to prioritize the privacy of our community.
Historically, Airbnb allowed the use of indoor security cameras in common areas of listings, such as hallways and living rooms, as long as they were disclosed on the listing page before booking, clearly visible and were not located in spaces like sleeping areas and bathrooms. The update to this policy simplifies our approach and makes clear that security cameras are not allowed inside listings, regardless of their location, purpose or prior disclosure.
As the majority of listings on Airbnb do not report having a security camera, this update is expected to impact a smaller subset of listings on the platform.
Alongside a ban on indoor cameras, the revised policy will also see more comprehensive rules on the use of outdoor security cameras and other devices, including noise decibel monitors.
Devices like doorbell cameras and noise decibel monitors continue to be permitted on Airbnb and can be an effective, privacy-protective way for Hosts to monitor security for their home and get ahead of issues like unauthorized parties. However, Hosts will be required to disclose the presence and general location of any outdoor cameras before guests book. These cameras will also be prohibited from monitoring indoor spaces of a listing and are not allowed in certain outdoor areas where theres a greater expectation of privacy, like an enclosed outdoor shower or sauna. Hosts are also required to disclose the presence of noise decibel monitors, which assess decibel level only and do not record or transmit sounds or conversations and are only allowed in common spaces of listings.
To allow Hosts time to come into compliance with these updates, the revised policy takes effect on April 30.1 After this, reported violations of this policy brought to our attention will be investigated, and action we take can include listing or account removal.
Community and expert input are an integral part of ensuring our policies help our community have positive experiences on Airbnb, and these changes follow extensive consultation with guests, Hosts, privacy experts and advocacy groups.

I figured like, every Airbnb would have cameras (somewhere) inside them lol >_> That seems really fucking risky to let some actual stranger into your property with no presence from yourself at any point.

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Dakimakura
03/20/24 12:39:42 PM
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Wait, this was allowed before?

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boomgetchopped3
03/20/24 12:40:23 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
Wait, this was allowed before?


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K181
03/20/24 12:41:02 PM
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Good.

Dakimakura posted...
Wait, this was allowed before?

Sure, it's private property after all.

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wackyteen
03/20/24 12:42:15 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
Wait, this was allowed before?
Per Airbnb:
Historically, Airbnb allowed the use of indoor security cameras in common areas of listings, such as hallways and living rooms, as long as they were disclosed on the listing page before booking, clearly visible and were not located in spaces like sleeping areas and bathrooms.

Which seems more than fair to me, but some owners were spying on the property when guests were (reasonably expected to be) present.

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LoveLikeJazz
03/20/24 12:43:37 PM
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Just stayed in a cabin about a month ago. Preeetty sure there were no cameras lol but we were aware of that possibility so we checked. I guess we could've missed them but it didn't stress us out at all.

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CADE_FOSTER
03/20/24 12:45:06 PM
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gonna be alot of foul shit people gonna get away with inside some ones place airbnb is cancer
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wackyteen
03/20/24 12:47:27 PM
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CADE_FOSTER posted...
gonna be alot of foul shit people gonna get away with inside some ones place airbnb is cancer
Yeah, I can imagine some bad actors are going to take a ban on cameras to be a bit of a green light to do some foul shit.

Nothing is stopping them now, though, from finding a listing that has no cameras and doing it so it might not turn out so bad.

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wackyteen
03/20/24 12:51:47 PM
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I am surprised their response is to ban them outright instead of trying to capitalize on the situation and having Airbnb-approved cameras that indicate very clearly where they are, when they are recording, when they are being accessed by the owner, etc <_<

So for those that do want/need cameras to monitor the interior of their property still can do so but i guess there'd be a lot of potential legal liability on Airbnb's end. Or due to only having a selection of approved cameras, it'd make those cameras easier to target/hack/interfere with.

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