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KiwiTerraRizing
03/12/24 11:26:54 AM
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Hes in a robot body and none of the hydra stuff is addressed but still, having a Nazi Villian in a kids show is something.

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Garioshi
03/12/24 11:28:41 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Hes in a robot body and none of the hydra stuff is addressed but still, having a Nazi Villian in a kids show is something.
Wait until you find out about Deathstroke

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Compsognathus
03/12/24 11:31:14 AM
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Justice League had arc where they time traveled to WW2 and fought literal Nazis.

Fighting Nazis isn't taboo. In fact we should be reinforcing the idea that Nazis are evil and fighting them is good. Fuck Nazis.

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Foppe
03/12/24 11:33:48 AM
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Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers Assemble and Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. were all kids shows.

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Seaman_Prime
03/12/24 11:37:42 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
Justice League had arc where they time traveled to WW2 and fought literal Nazis.

Fighting Nazis isn't taboo. In fact we should be reinforcing the idea that Nazis are evil and fighting them is good. Fuck Nazis.
I agree, but if I to guess why having Nazi villains in a kids show might be a problem, it could be that some naive kids might to cosplay as them >_>
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lilORANG
03/12/24 11:39:11 AM
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Also Patrick Stump from Fall Out Boy does all the music and it's great.

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Gamespoht
03/12/24 11:41:33 AM
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Phineas and Ferb beat red skull's ass in a crossover ep

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ButteryMales
03/12/24 11:42:02 AM
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Captain Planet was weak to Hitler.
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FortuneCookie
03/12/24 11:51:24 AM
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Red Skull was in the 90s Spider-Man cartoon and the 70s Spider-Man cartoon.

Also, Zola is Swiss - not German. It's a technicality, but it sounds like the kind that Disney would use.
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TheGoldenEel
03/12/24 11:55:29 AM
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My toddler has a board book from this tv show and its almost distopian in the way that it just seems specifically designed to indoctrinate kids into the MCU

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FortuneCookie
03/12/24 11:58:59 AM
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Are Hydra even Nazis at this point?

Robert Redford's character from Winter Soldier was Jewish and Red Skull took verbal potshots at Hitler (whom he planned to assassinate) and his views of Aryan perfection.

I can't speak for the comics, but the MCU definitely tried to distance itself from that.
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SpawnShadow
03/12/24 12:00:41 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
My toddler has a board book from this tv show and its almost distopian in the way that it just seems specifically designed to indoctrinate kids into the MCU
Let's be real, here: there are far worse things that corporate America could be indoctrinating your toddler into (and in all probability, already is indoctrinating the kid into) than just becoming a fan of the biggest film franchise Hollywood has had since the original Universal Monsters.
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mehmeh1
03/12/24 12:01:29 PM
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Foppe posted...
Ultimate Spider-Man, Avengers Assemble and Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. were all kids shows.
AFAIK this is a toddler show though, so it's more surprising

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EyeWontBeFooled
03/12/24 12:01:34 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
Justice League had arc where they time traveled to WW2 and fought literal Nazis.

Fighting Nazis isn't taboo. In fact we should be reinforcing the idea that Nazis are evil and fighting them is good. Fuck Nazis.


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Prismsblade
03/12/24 12:09:44 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
Justice League had arc where they time traveled to WW2 and fought literal Nazis.

Fighting Nazis isn't taboo. In fact we should be reinforcing the idea that Nazis are evil and fighting them is good. Fuck Nazis.
Depends on how you look at it since just because they were fighting German troops doesn't mean they were fighting nazi troops as Shows often times alluded more to the former.

Even patriotic events like in that JL ep arent very common anymore. Just like how you dont see rich and wealthy protagonist in most media anymore. Which I suppose was just a shift in demographics assuming there was no agenda behind it.

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Compsognathus
03/12/24 12:13:59 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
Depends on how you look at it since just because they were fighting German troops doesn't mean they were fighting nazi troops as Shows often times alluded more to the former.

Even patriotic events like in that JL ep arent very common anymore. Just like how you dont see rich and wealthy protagonist in most media anymore. Which I suppose was just a shift in demographics assuming there was no agenda behind it.
Justice League literally showed Hitler.

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Prismsblade
03/12/24 12:22:53 PM
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Compsognathus posted...
Justice League literally showed Hitler.
Frozen, which implies that not only were they fighting German troops throughout the entire story but that the atrocities the nazis committed possibly didnt happen prior to that either.

Which would maybe explain why narratively freeing all the prisoners from the internment camps wasnt everyones top priority.

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Gamespoht
03/12/24 12:30:55 PM
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It's personally dissapointing how Spidey hasn't had a solid cartoon since Speculator back in '09, Disney keeps producing mid content involving him and its just not for me

There's freshman year on D+ which got no new updates except a title change, i need more than that

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