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Fire_Emblem_ posted...

Come on man Trump can't be a Nazi in modern day society.

He certainly doesn't play golf all day lol.

Better than eating ice cream cones and acting like a kid.

Holy shit. The projection is so absurd with MAGA's. Like absolutely bat-shit bonkers. They truly do exist in an alternate reality.

Supporting Nazis alone qualifies that person for being one themselves. And again, the Holocaust survivors are saying he behaves like Hitler.

Trump also says he likes The Bible but can't list off a single verse, his word on Judism means nothing.

It's rather odd that someone is trying to use the fact that Trump is a self-centered, narcissistic, liar as a part of their argument for why he isn't a Nazi. Despite actual Nazi victims and historians saying he is.

emblem-man posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/726c344b.jpg
Biden trying to court Haley voters

Joe Biden trading in the young progressive voters that won him the presidency in 2020 for supporters of an anti-lgbt, forced birther who claimed America was never a racist country and slavery was not the cause of the civil war.

It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.

CountCorvinus posted...

Joe Biden trading in the young progressive voters that won him the presidency in 2020 for supporters of an anti-lgbt, forced birther who claimed America was never a racist country and slavery was not the cause of the civil war.

It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.

Did you delete the same BS brain dead post to repeat it verbatim, hoping to get more traction?

These dudes literally think Nazis are going to take over America...

Ryangrad posted...

It's rather odd that someone is trying to use the fact that Trump is a self-centered, narcissistic, liar as a part of their argument for why he isn't a Nazi. Despite actual Nazi victims and historians saying he is.

My argument for Slug Virus not being a Nazi is that he isn't all in on antisemitism. That's it.The part about him being a self centered narcissistic liar is a concession that he's still too damn close to thinking like one.

Regardless I don't see anything productive coming from continuing this conversation any further. Just because I don't think Trump is a full blown Nazi doesn't mean I don't think that he's too dangerous to be allowed a second term. I've said before that I fear him putting death camps in this country just with the disabled, the queer population and the left being his targets rather than ethnic ones.

And before anybody tries to claim otherwise, yes I am aware of how Nazis persecuted homosexuals.

Why do people do the thing where they bring something up, only to say "I don't want to keep talking about it" when they get pushback? Seems like they want to say their piece while having no rebuttals, really.

And this dude straight up blocked me for pointing out that he deleted and reposted his shitpost hopping to get a reaction out of folks. You got what you wanted. Why block?

Ryangrad posted...

Why do people do the thing where they bring something up, only to say "I don't want to keep talking about it" when they get pushback? Seems like they want to say their piece while having no rebuttals, really.

And this dude straight up blocked me for pointing out that he deleted and reposted his shitpost hopping to get a reaction out of folks. You got what you wanted. Why block?

I've already had plenty of rebuttals. I really don't think there's anything that can come further from this other than a massive flame war and people acting like just because they say something that makes them 100% right on everything. Like what you're doing right now.

ForsakenHermit posted...

I've already had plenty of rebuttals. I really don't think there's anything that can come further from this other than a massive flame war and people acting like just because they say something that makes them 100% right on everything. Like what you're doing right now.

I neither flamed you nor do I think I'm 100% right. So...that's just like...something you made up, man.

Ryangrad posted...

I neither flamed you nor do I think I'm 100% right. So...that's just like...something you made up, man.

Bullshit on the latter point you claimed that my argument was based on Trump being too narcissistic to be a nazi which you pulled right out of your ass and refuse to concede. I have made far more concessions in this topic than you. You don't seem to be arguing from a place where you want to be correct you want to be right.

ForsakenHermit posted...

Bullshit on the latter point you claimed that my argument was based on Trump being too narcissistic to be a nazi which you pulled right out of your ass and refuse to concede. I have made far more concessions in this topic than you. You don't seem to be arguing from a place where you want to be correct you want to be right.

Okay, but you're wrong about that. I didn't say you based your argument on that. I said that it was part of your argument.

And I still don't think I'm 100% right. I mostly am just saying my opinion on Trump sides with the actual serving Nazi victims and historians that specialize in Nazi history.

Haley dropping out a day after Sinema?

Best 2 days of 2024 so far.

ForsakenHermit posted...

My argument for Slug Virus not being a Nazi is that he isn't all in on antisemitism. That's it.The part about him being a self centered narcissistic liar is a concession that he's still too damn close to thinking like one.

Regardless I don't see anything productive coming from continuing this conversation any further. Just because I don't think Trump is a full blown Nazi doesn't mean I don't think that he's too dangerous to be allowed a second term. I've said before that I fear him putting death camps in this country just with the disabled, the queer population and the left being his targets rather than ethnic ones.

And before anybody tries to claim otherwise, yes I am aware of how Nazis persecuted homosexuals.

he's not publicly anti-semitic. what do you think he says about Jews in private?

thronedfire2 posted...

he's not publicly anti-semitic. what do you think he says about Jews in private?

He also has accepted his Jewish son in law as a member of the family, that's an action that speaks far louder than any words he could make public or private.

ForsakenHermit posted...

He also has accepted his Jewish son in law as a member of the family, that's an action that speaks far louder than any words he could make public or private.

"he has black friend"

DrizztLink posted...

"he has black friend"

I think being okay with Jewish man being with your daughter especially one Trump has openly lusted after is a lot higher than simply having a black friend.

ForsakenHermit posted...

I think being okay with Jewish man being with your daughter especially one Trump has openly lusted after is a lot higher than simply having a black friend.

That's the thing, I find it very hard to believe that Trump is actually ok with anybody banging his daughter other than him.

Kushner comes from money and got 2bn from the Saudis for providing MBS with a list of Saudi dissenters/people working against him.

Having Kushner around benefits him, I don't believe he actually likes him being around and especially being a son-in-law.

Also, Steven Miller is an Anti-Semitic Jewish Nazi, so compared to that having a Jewish son-in-law is nothing.

Also keep in mind that some Naizs had their "One Good Jew" so Trump not going after a family member doesn't mean anything either.

But yeah, not productive conversation because dude is still a fascist regardless

Compsognathus posted...

Can you change your name back? I don't like seeing one of my favorite franchises associated with your stupid fucking post.

So true.

BoomerTheGreat posted...

So true.

Who was that?

Fire_Emblem_ posted...

He might be.

The border crisis I would imagine.

Ah, there it is.

Chud tag upheld.

Umbreon posted...

Also keep in mind that some Naizs had their "One Good Jew" so Trump not going after a family member doesn't mean anything either.

But yeah, not productive conversation because dude is still a fascist regardless

Slug Virus has also called Orthodox Judaism a beautiful and wonderful religion. That's a bit farther than token exceptionism.

Trump is certainly a fascist. But I fear that he is still not the bottom and that the next populist demagogue is gonna be worse than him.

DrizztLink posted...

Who was that?

Fire_Emblem_

Aka the dude playing defense for neo nazis.

Umbreon posted...

Fire_Emblem_

Aka the dude playing defense for neo nazis.

Yeah, I gathered, I meant regarding the name change.

ForsakenHermit posted...

Slug Virus has also called Orthodox Judaism a beautiful and wonderful religion. That's a bit farther than token exceptionism.

Trump is certainly a fascist. But I fear that he is still not the bottom and that the next populist demagogue is gonna be worse than him.

sounds like every other bullshit line he throws out when he needs to look good

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https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-star-david-225058

ForsakenHermit posted...

Slug Virus has also called Orthodox Judaism a beautiful and wonderful religion. That's a bit farther than token exceptionism.

Trump is certainly a fascist. But I fear that he is still not the bottom and that the next populist demagogue is gonna be worse than him.

He's also said that Jews in America who don't support him are traitors.

The dude just says shit and believes in very little other than money, sex, and power.

As someone who doesn't even accept his presidency as legitimate and refers to him as a number a lot of times, it's weird seeing you put so much legitimacy into Trump authentically liking Judaism/Jews.

He talks up Christianity to an even greater degree, do you think he actually gives a shit about Christianity beyond using it and Christians to ascertain power?

Whether Trump is a Nazi or not is one of those things that though technically debatable, the fact it's at all a debate in the first place really says all you need to know about Trump.

He is definitely a Nazi enabler, which I think is all you need. I don't trust him enough to not throw Jews under the bus if it meant saving all the people who are definitely Nazis who just so happen to support him.

ForsakenHermit posted...

He also has accepted his Jewish son in law as a member of the family, that's an action that speaks far louder than any words he could make public or private.

LOL. Yes, I am sure his whole "what makes you a 'loyal' Jew" has no roots in anti-semitism at all. Nope...none.

It used to be that Israel had absolute power over Congress, and today I think its the exact opposite. And I think Obama and Biden did that, Trump charged. And yet in the election, they still get a lot of votes from the Jewish people. Which tells you that the Jewish people, and Ive said this for a long time, the Jewish people in the United States either dont like Israel or dont care about Israel.

In a speech in Washington to the Republican Jewish Coalition last December, Trump appears to traffic in stereotypes about Jews. Youre not going to support me because I dont want your money, he told the Jewish audience. He also says, Is there anyone in this room who doesnt negotiate deals? Probably more than any room Ive ever spoken.

Kradek posted...

He's also said that Jews in America who don't support him are traitors.

The dude just says shit and believes in very little other than money, sex, and power.

As someone who doesn't even accept his presidency as legitimate and refers to him as a number a lot of times, it's weird seeing you put so much legitimacy into Trump authentically liking Judaism/Jews.

He talks up Christianity to an even greater degree, do you think he actually gives a shit about Christianity beyond using it and Christians to ascertain power?

I don't recall referring to him as a number. I've called him Caretaker Trump, Prime Lunatic Trump, Slug Virus, Darth Avarice, an argument for abortion, a threat to America but I don't think I've ever called him a number.

I agree with your second paragraph which is why I don't think he has put any thought towards firmly agreeing with any ideology other than power for power's sake. Nazis are a bit more complicated than that.

As for Trump and Christianity or the Christian right the Evangelicals are slowly becoming more of a political force than religious. Evangelical church attendance has declined yet Evangelicalism is on the rise. On top of that some are starting to openly denounce the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. The Christian right is slowly losing any religious trimmings beyond some vague belief in God/the afterlife and their view of Jesus being some contradictory mess I can't put my finger on. I think Trump is some kind of low key theist who sees himself as God's chosen person who is always right because he is that much of a megalomaniac.

Like I alluded to earlier I'm afraid we can still sink lower than Trump and I do believe that someone far more Gung ho about Nazi politics would be even more dangerous than Trump who is a fascist but has yet not committed to their racial policies with full gusto. If Providence forbid Slug Virus gets another term and does that I will be the first to admit how wrong I was about him. Right now I see him as a fascist who sees the Nazis way to power as a useful model but doesn't commit to the worst of their racial policies.

ForsakenHermit posted...

I don't recall referring to him as a number. I've called him Caretaker Trump, Prime Lunatic Trump, Slug Virus, Darth Avarice, an argument for abortion, a threat to America but I don't think I've ever called him a number.

My bad, I guess I got you confused with another poster. I know you don't consider his presidency legitimately and I know you never just use "Trump", so easy mistake.

ForsakenHermit posted...

I agree with your second paragraph which is why I don't think he has put any thought towards firmly agreeing with any ideology other than power for power's sake. Nazis are a bit more complicated than that.

But he knows the Nazis are dedicated to him and the Republican party. I don't think he's an actual card-carrying Nazi, however I also think it's a distinction without a difference. He will use Hitler's words and worshippers the same he'll use right-wing Jews.

ForsakenHermit posted...

As for Trump and Christianity or the Christian right the Evangelicals are slowly becoming more of a political force than religious. Evangelical church attendance has declined yet Evangelicalism is on the rise. On top of that some are starting to openly denounce the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. The Christian right is slowly losing any religious trimmings beyond some vague belief in God/the afterlife and their view of Jesus being some contradictory mess I can't put my finger on. I think Trump is some kind of low key theist who sees himself as God's chosen person who is always right because he is that much of a megalomaniac.

Which is blasphemous and I'd like to say no real Christian would believe, however then we have Mike Johnson declaring himself Moses to a bunch of evangelicals when he thought nobody was recording. He has spoken himself as the Chosen One, literally, however I think he only does that to appease the evangelicals who see him as their messiah for turning this nation into a Christo-fascist state. Also, they've also been a political force, they're the ones who have been pushing the "pro-life" agenda and trying to change our law to fit their views.

Ultimately, putting believe in a higher power means Trump not viewing himself as a god, which I don't think his narcissism gels with.

ForsakenHermit posted...

Like I alluded to earlier I'm afraid we can still sink lower than Trump and I do believe that someone far more Gung ho about Nazi politics would be even more dangerous than Trump who is a fascist but has yet not committed to their racial policies with full gusto. If Providence forbid Slug Virus gets another term and does that I will be the first to admit how wrong I was about him. Right now I see him as a fascist who sees the Nazis way to power as a useful model but doesn't commit to the worst of their racial policies.

We already know he plans to enact Project 2025 and seeks to persecute and incarcerate his critics and people he sees as enemies. I don't doubt there are people in the party worse than him waiting for him to pass the torch, however that does not mitigate the damage he will cause. He will open the door for the people you're referring to ascendancy to power under a faux democracy similar to Hungary's as best, Putin's at worst, or maybe he'll just scrap democracy altogether.

As for Trump and Christianity or the Christian right the Evangelicals are slowly becoming more of a political force than religious. Evangelical church attendance has declined yet Evangelicalism is on the rise. On top of that some are starting to openly denounce the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. The Christian right is slowly losing any religious trimmings beyond some vague belief in God/the afterlife and their view of Jesus being some contradictory mess I can't put my finger on. I think Trump is some kind of low key theist who sees himself as God's chosen person who is always right because he is that much of a megalomaniac

I mean...at this point can we agree that the Evangelicals that back Trump are really just Aryan Nation supporters or just about something really damn close to it? I mean,at this point as a whole they made it clear that all they really care about is white privilege and nothing else really matters to them but for the white man to be on top of everyone else and that morals mean nothing to them?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

Nazism is a form of fascism,[5][6][7][8] with disdain for liberal democracy and the parliamentary system. It incorporates a dictatorship,[4] fervent antisemitism, anti-communism, anti-Slavism,[9] scientific racism, white supremacy, Nordicism, social Darwinism and the use of eugenics into its creed.

I mean, he checks every single box except maybe his antisemitism isn't fervent enough? I'm sorry, but... that's a Nazi.