Current Events > Why are people who thought the 2020 election was stolen voting?

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Mods? Any time now.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Mods? Any time now.

Idk if sheer stupidity is moddable tbh.

People turning a blind eye is how Hitler came into power, never forget that.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Hes actively telling people not to vote because of his ignorance. No, theres no respect to be had here.

I don't get it you'd rather me tell them to vote red?

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Idk if sheer stupidity is moddable tbh.

Its obvious what that user is doing, and the TOS needs to specify nipping shit in the bud as a valid reason for moderation.

It would have saved us years of TonyKojima, among others.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Honestly I can respect being vacant headed enough to just ignore it all, I wish I could. At least you are real about it.

The door is always open to not let your cell phone and tv dictate how you feel

JimmyFraska posted...

I don't get it you'd rather me tell them to vote red?

Id rather you not say anything at all tbh. Would probably be best for everyone involved

JimmyFraska posted...

I don't get it you'd rather me tell them to vote red?

Why not? Thats what youll be doing this year anyway.

I think it's more the fact that you are trying to have an opinion over something you are telling people you don't pay attention to makes you look ignorant. This is like me going into an NBA topic watching a half of a game in the last 10 years and trying to argue who the best player is. Why even bother.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Id rather you not say anything at all tbh. Would probably be best for everyone involved

And thats the truth of it. You only want to hear your own opinion mirrored back to you

JimmyFraska posted...

The door is always open to not let your cell phone and tv dictate how you feel

Not everyone is a straight white Christian male with money. Not everyone has the benefit of simply being able to ignore politics.

JimmyFraska posted...

And thats the truth of it. You only want to hear your own opinion mirrored back to you

Keep hitting the bingo points. Maybe add a part about having an opinion is a crime around here next.

JimmyFraska posted...

And thats the truth of it. You only want to hear your own opinion mirrored back to you

Id rather hear silence than the opinion of someone who admits they have no clue what theyre talking about

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Id rather hear silence than the opinion of someone who admits they have no clue what theyre talking about

And for someone who claims not to care theyre responding here pretty quickly.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Why not? Thats what youll be doing this year anyway.

If you mean like the points I've raised in this topic about not voting, yeah I'll be doing that for sure. I've been doing that for 4 years. I'm sure either a 3rd party vote or no vote at all is a red vote as far as your concerned.

JimmyFraska posted...

If you mean like the points I've raised in this topic about not voting, yeah I'll be doing that for sure. I've been doing that for 4 years. I'm sure either a 3rd party vote or no vote at all is a red vote as far as your concerned.

More proof you know exactly what youre doing. They used to call that trolling and people would get modded for it.

JimmyFraska posted...

I'm sure either a 3rd party vote or no vote at all is a red vote as far as your concerned.

It is. We need every vote to fend off Trump. The fact you don't understand what Project 2025 is doesn't make it less dangerous. Even you will suffer if Trump wins. You will regret not voting someday

Dark_Arbron posted...

More proof you know exactly what youre doing. They used to call that trolling and people would get modded for it.

What do you mean "proof I know what I'm doing". I already stated my opinion in my other posts.

My first post was in agreement with TC, it's stupid that these conservatives shouted "It was rigged!" But then they're running right back to the polls lmao

MabusIncarnate posted...

Honestly I can respect being vacant headed enough to just ignore it all, I wish I could. At least you are real about it.

I do up until they go about spewing their ignorant bullshit. Like, you don't want to care about politics, fine. Don't go around bragging about how stupid you are in regards to it though.

Heineken14 posted...

I do up until they go about spewing their ignorant bullshit. Like, you don't want to care about politics, fine. Don't go around bragging about how stupid you are in regards to it though.

The topic is about people who by all logic shouldn't be voting. The truth is, they still have too much faith in the system. I tried to use 2020 to get my conservative friends on board with not voting. Maybe worked on 1/10th of them who are now like me. Most are going to head right back up to the polls in November, despite supposedly believing the election was rigged.

I'll say it just one more time, JimmyFraska is a self-proclaimed Trump supporter. Why is everyone wasting perfectly good oxygen on their low effort bait?
We deserve a better class of troll.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

I'll say it just one more time, JimmyFraska is a self-proclaimed Trump supporter. Why is everyone wasting perfectly good oxygen on their low effort bait?
We deserve a better class of troll.

This makes sense then, both regarding their posts in this topic and the one about Republicans saying they wont vote Trump.

The both sides bad I vote neither! card has been played to death by now.

JimmyFraska posted...

Large swaths of people NOT voting is the most powerful statement we can make

It actually accomplishes literally nothing.

Well, that's not true.

All you actually accomplish is holding the country back from having the overwhelmingly sane party, with the potential to become progressive, maintain steady control over government, causing this wishy washy back and forth which over time has taken us to the precipice of Christo-fascist rule that we must now contend with for every foreseeable election.

I 100% guarantee you neither party gives a single shit about you and millions others not voting, referencing the traditional bloc of millions of non-voters in every election, and are not changing policies or practices based off of it, all you're doing is shooting yourself in the foot and neutering what little political power civilians possess.

I'm ok with red hatters not voting because they think the election will be stolen anyways.

JimmyFraska posted...

Large swaths of people NOT voting is the most powerful statement we can make

A refresher to folks, this is what Trump didn't want in the months leading up to the 2020 election, by fear mongering mail in ballots, because even he knew that more people voting would end up screwing him over.

Republicans haven't won the popular vote in twenty years, their policies are increasingly unpopular and they've been reduced to running on culture war nonsense--- in addition to making it more difficult to vote.

So no, less people voting doesn't send the most powerful message, it just plays into GOP fear mongering and you're either a victim of that or you know precisely what you're trying to do here with that take (and have been rightly called out on it).

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

I'll say it just one more time, JimmyFraska is a self-proclaimed Trump supporter. Why is everyone wasting perfectly good oxygen on their low effort bait?
We deserve a better class of troll.

Love how you post that without referencing anything lmao. It doesn't matter either way. It doesn't make a difference to tell the truth that I'm not voting for Trump, so I might as well (on CE) just be a Trump voter. Fine by me. I didn't vote in the presidential election in 2020, and I won't be again in 2024. That simple.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

A refresher to folks, this is what Trump didn't want in the months leading up to the 2020 election, by fear mongering mail in ballots, because even he knew that more people voting would end up screwing him over.

Republicans haven't won the popular vote in twenty years, their policies are increasingly unpopular and they've been reduced to running on culture war nonsense--- in addition to making it more difficult to vote.

So no, less people voting doesn't send the most powerful message, it just plays into GOP fear mongering and you're either a victim of that or you know precisely what you're trying to do here with that take (and have been rightly called out on it).

Yeah but now you shouldn't need to worry as much right, since there will be many more previously Republican voters who have lost faith because they think the last election was rigged. They havent won the popular vote and there will be even less votes now. It's an easy win.

JimmyFraska posted...

Yeah but now you shouldn't need to worry as much right, since there will be many more previously Republican voters who have lost faith because they think the last election was rigged. They havent won the popular vote and there will be even less votes now. It's an easy win.

They didn't trust the mail in process, because Trump told them not to. The GOP instead wants people to vote in person, preferably at a single ballot box in a county, waiting in a line on a work day- this way they ensure that less people have access to voting.

Sure I hope that disenfranchised Republicans sit it out due to ignorance, that would be swell. I doubt they will given how the difference in 2020 was only 7 million, which is why blanket statements encouraging people to not vote is a GOP strategy that shouldn't be listened to. Complacency is how they win. But I'm sure you already knew that with your "most powerful" suggestion to not vote.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

Complacency is how they win. But I'm sure you already knew that with your "most powerful" suggestion to not vote.

Well to be fair, I lean right, I talk to more conservatives regularly than I do on here, and I literally do tell them that exactly what you're quoting. I say it to them too. I think whichever side says "We're done" first is going to be at a big advantage.

However, most of them respond similarly to the people here "Well you might not like the system but we gotta do what we can to keep the Democrats out if we're gonna keep the country alive". So, yeah, you're right that they're still probably gonna show, At least 80% or more is my guess.

I can't see their posts anymore, is that Trumper still at it?

Dark_Arbron posted...

I can't see their posts anymore, is that Trumper still at it?

Someone tell him that thanks to him and some of the others itt, I was able to realize that, through not voting, I am supporting Trump, and am now an open Trump supporter:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80712357#24

We already knew that through all of your antivax posts

Anyway, back to the question at hand:

Why are the people who say the election was rigged still voting?
Only answer is they still have faith in the system.

So apparently their faith hasn't been shaken enough. My question is, what will it take to move the right to the position where they say "We don't even give a shit anymore." ? I'm open to suggestions on things to try.

JimmyFraska posted...

Anyway, back to the question at hand:

Why are the people who say the election was rigged still voting?
Only answer is they still have faith in the system.

So apparently their faith hasn't been shaken enough. My question is, what will it take to move the right to the position where they say "We don't even give a shit anymore." ? I'm open to suggestions on things to try.

Why are you still doing this shit

JimmyFraska posted...

and I literally do tell them that exactly what you're quoting. I say it to them too. I think whichever side says "We're done" first is going to be at a big advantage.

Oh, but you come in here and suggest that the most powerful statement to make is not to vote. Interesting.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

Oh, but you come in here and suggest that the most powerful statement to make is not to vote. Interesting.

I think you're misreading the part you quoted. "We're done" would be them not voting. It's the same thing.

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They don't, they instead believe in playing the victim and seeing what will stick. So far that has not been going so well for them. You can see how excited they get when the supreme court took up the presidential immunity argument while the GOP are pushing on with their clown show of impeaching Biden "just cuz". That contrast shows you all you need to know how morally bankrupt they are.

They are scared as hell that history has been leaning progressive for the past century and they are losing ground for their bigoted isolationist bullshit.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Ive actually seen people argue against this point. They say the dems couldnt cheat down ballot because itd either be too obvious or they simply just underestimated the votes from republicans.

So the dems are apparently strong enough to cheat the presidential election, but too incompetent to do it without leaving the clues, and also couldnt affect any other ballots lmao

They did the same thing with Hillary Clinton. Apparently Hillary only won the popular vote because the Democrats rigged it for her but were also simultaneously too stupid to rig it in the states that cost her the electoral victory. In case you're wondering why Trump always says he loves the "poorly educated" so much.

JimmyFraska posted...

I think you're misreading the part you quoted. "We're done" would be them not voting. It's the same thing.

No I read it right. You tell your conservative buddies to not be complacent yet you come in here and tell everyone else not to vote. I gettcha.

PeteyParker posted...

They did the same thing with Hillary Clinton. Apparently Hillary only won the popular vote because the Democrats rigged it for her but were also simultaneously too stupid to rig it in the states that cost her the electoral victory. In case you're wondering why Trump always says he loves the "poorly educated" so much.

Yeah, that was my favorite.

"Hillary rigged the election!"
"Well then why didn't she win?"
"Because her and the democrats are too stupid to know most votes doesn't win and they only did it in California!"
"You grew up eating lead covered powerlines didn't you."

I also realize that many conservatives will straight up retreat into delusional fantasy conspiracies instead of accepting reality. A worrying amount of people think its more likely for JFK to resurrect from the dead than for Trump to be grifting them.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

No I read it right. You tell your conservative buddies to not be complacent yet you come in here and tell everyone else not to vote. I gettcha.

No, you didn't. I tell them don't vote, to say "We're done" ie, done with voting.

This is the logic from the same people who say "The President (meaning Trump) should have total immunity!" AND "Everything Biden is doing is illegal!!)

Pick one

JimmyFraska posted...

No, you didn't. I tell them don't vote, to say "We're done" ie, done with voting.

I'm even more confused. I did misread that part of "whichever side says we're done is at an advantage", because complacent attitudes like that would put you at a significant disadvantage. Not voting doesn't give anyone an advantage. Your original "powerful statement" of swaths of people not voting doesn't give anyone an advantage.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

I'm even more confused. I did misread that part of "whichever side says we're done is at an advantage", because complacent attitudes like that would put you at a significant disadvantage. Not voting doesn't give anyone an advantage. Your original "powerful statement" of swaths of people not voting doesn't give anyone an advantage.

From your perspective that's true, because you rely on the system. I don't.

Man the maga troll got fed well.

JimmyFraska posted...

From your perspective that's true, because you rely on the system. I don't.

Good luck changing the system, and good luck doing that as a republican if Trump ends up winning.