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03/01/24 11:02:16 AM
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Garioshi
03/01/24 11:37:11 AM
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He might be the worst possible candidate to run against Trump aside of Kamala. A ham sandwich could beat Trump, but the one person the Democratic Party has been cancelling primaries to make sure is unopposed might not be able to.

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SilvosForever
03/01/24 11:38:09 AM
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I assure you with the slightest bit of effort you could think of several Democratic politicians that would be worse presidents than Biden.

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Rosstin316
03/01/24 11:38:49 AM
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Typical 50 karma alt oh wait.

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Block_that_Kick
03/01/24 11:41:41 AM
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The only guy that could lose the Trump is the only guy that has beaten Trump.

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VeggetaX
03/01/24 11:42:21 AM
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Rosstin316 posted...
Typical 50 karma alt oh wait.
Who is your main

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Garioshi
03/01/24 11:42:26 AM
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SilvosForever posted...
I assure you with the slightest bit of effort you could think of several Democratic politicians that would be worse presidents than Biden.
But they're all more capable of winning than him. Trump attempted a coup and has 91 criminal charges against him. This should be a fucking cakewalk.

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SilvosForever
03/01/24 11:43:36 AM
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Garioshi posted...
But they're all more capable of winning than him. Trump attempted a coup and has 91 criminal charges against him. This should be a fucking cakewalk.

More capable?

Hillary? Kamala? Manchin?

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Torgo
03/01/24 11:43:42 AM
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TC, can you name the last time a party ran a primary against an incumbent.

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Jeremy517
03/01/24 11:44:02 AM
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Garioshi posted...
but the one person the Democratic Party has been cancelling primaries to make sure is unopposed might not be able to.

No primaries have been canceled
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Rai_Jin
03/01/24 11:45:44 AM
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Garioshi posted...
But they're all more capable of winning than him. Trump attempted a coup and has 91 criminal charges against him. This should be a fucking cakewalk.

I was reading an article about aliens, the comments were just full of people saying the Biden Crime Family is pushing the matter for Reasons.

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LightningThief
03/01/24 11:47:24 AM
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TC spreading bs and fake concerns.
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C_Pain
03/01/24 11:48:10 AM
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LightningThief posted...
TC spreading bs and fake concerns.
Why are you so bothered?

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Garioshi
03/01/24 11:48:42 AM
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Jeremy517 posted...
No primaries have been canceled
The DNC put South Carolina's primary before New Hampshire's because they believed Biden would do better there. In response, New Hampshire took Biden's name off the ballot (it's in the state Constitution that they HAVE to be first), and the DNC effectively cancelled the primary by stripping New Hampshire of all of its delegates. This is one of myriad ways the DNC has been refusing to allow any alternative to Biden to present themselves.

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Torgo
03/01/24 11:50:01 AM
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Rai_Jin posted...
I was reading an article about aliens, the comments were just full of people saying the Biden Crime Family is pushing the matter for Reasons.

It's so funny they still keep using "Biden Crime Family" which is just recycled "Bush Crime Family" from two decades ago... but anyway they seem to have failed to notice their big witness against Hunter Biden in all the nonsense they're pushing got well...

How is an ex-FBI informant charged with lying about Bidens allegedly linked to Russian intelligence?
Members of Congress react to an FBI informant in the Biden investigation being charged with lying to his FBI handler. Prosecutors laid out extensive and extremely recent contact Smirnov had with people aligned with Russian intelligence. (Feb. 21) (AP Video/Dan Huff)
https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-joe-biden-fbi-informant-ec37a35b808ffedf257bb3cfb3fc9ce2

WASHINGTON (AP) The explosive allegations at the center of an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden were false, federal prosecutors said, and came from an ex-FBI informant who said he was in touch with Russian intelligence.
The informant, Alexander Smirnov, is actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. elections, federal prosecutors said Wednesday, as they appealed to a judge to keep him behind bars ahead of trial on charges alleging he lied to the FBI about a phony multimillion-dollar bribery scheme involving the Bidens and the Ukrainian energy company Burisma.

And they just keep plowing ahead... no time for facts or reality, we have lies to push!

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LightningThief
03/01/24 11:50:53 AM
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C_Pain posted...
Why are you so bothered?
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K181
03/01/24 11:51:27 AM
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Democrats in presidential elections since 2000:

2000 = Loss by Gore/Lieberman
2004 = Loss by Kerry/Edwards
2008 = Win by Obama/Biden
2012 = Win by Obama/Biden
2016 = Loss by Clinton/Kaine
2020 = Win by Biden/Harris

Now, causation =/= correlation, but the presence of one name on a ticket makes the Dems 3-0 and his absence makes the Dems 0-3.

I have a hard time understanding the idea that Mr. 3-0 is somehow unelectable.

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FortuneCookie
03/01/24 11:52:16 AM
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I hope Biden wins and then steps down.

I know I'm one of the few people who wants President Harris, but I think having a Black woman as President of the United States would be beneficial to the presidential race no matter how unpopular she is.

White supremacy becomes a losing battle once America has had multiple Black presidents. And we're overdue for a woman president. How many first world countries are there that have had exclusively male leadership?

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DarthAragorn
03/01/24 11:52:52 AM
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Jeremy517 posted...
No primaries have been canceled
Yeah okay sure

https://floridaphoenix.com/2023/12/11/fl-democrats-wont-have-a-vote-in-presidential-primary-in-24-what-about-voters-in-other-states/

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Garioshi
03/01/24 11:55:30 AM
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K181 posted...
Democrats in presidential elections since 2000:

2000 = Loss by Gore/Lieberman
2004 = Loss by Kerry/Edwards
2008 = Win by Obama/Biden
2012 = Win by Obama/Biden
2016 = Loss by Clinton/Kaine
2020 = Win by Biden/Harris

Now, causation =/= correlation, but the presence of one name on a ticket makes the Dems 3-0 and his absence makes the Dems 0-3.

I have a hard time understanding the idea that Mr. 3-0 is somehow unelectable.
He's an unconditional supporter of one of genocide and he can barely string a sentence together. Trump is up on Biden in 7 swing states by 2-7 points when any decent candidate should be up on him by 10. To deny this is to deny the plain-faced reality in front of you.

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creativerealms
03/01/24 11:58:13 AM
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Here's the weird way I look at it. Any democrat but Joe Biden would destroy Trump. Also any Republican other then Donald Trump would destroy Biden. Yet because it's Trump vs Biden it will be much closer then it has any right to be.

And I'm voting Biden.

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Were_Wyrm
03/01/24 11:58:38 AM
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Torgo posted...
TC, can you name the last time a party ran a primary against an incumbent.
Republican party in 2020

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Umbreon
03/01/24 11:58:49 AM
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Garioshi posted...
He's an unconditional supporter of one of genocide and he can barely string a sentence together.


This is typically said by people who are rooting for a Trump win.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/01/24 11:58:59 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Trump is up on Biden in 7 swing states by 2-7 points when any decent candidate should be up on him by 10.
So you're just, what, pulling numbers out of your ass? All this tells us is that Biden isn't performing as well as some mythical supercandidate you've made up in your head.

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Garioshi
03/01/24 12:00:38 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I hope Biden wins and then steps down.

I know I'm one of the few people who wants President Harris, but I think having a Black woman as President of the United States would be beneficial to the presidential race no matter how unpopular she is.

White supremacy becomes a losing battle once America has had multiple Black presidents. And we're overdue for a woman president. How many first world countries are there that have had exclusively male leadership?

Sometimes, you have to swallow a pill whether you like it or not.
Kamala Harris is one of the most rhetorically incapable politicians I have ever seen. She is incapable of saying anything whatsoever of substance, she always talks like a preschool teacher talking to the problem child, and she is utterly unable to challenge Trump in any way. Biden's approval rating is at 38% and that's utterly catastrophic for anyone seeking reelection, but Kamala's has been about 35% and she isn't even President. If you want a black woman to be President, pick anybody else.

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Ooooooranges
03/01/24 12:03:14 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I hope Biden wins and then steps down.

I know I'm one of the few people who wants President Harris, but I think having a Black woman as President of the United States would be beneficial to the presidential race no matter how unpopular she is.

White supremacy becomes a losing battle once America has had multiple Black presidents. And we're overdue for a woman president. How many first world countries are there that have had exclusively male leadership?

Sometimes, you have to swallow a pill whether you like it or not.

And it's this obsession with identity politics that is the problem. No mention of policy at all. Just someone should be in office because of the color of their skin.

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Torgo
03/01/24 12:04:13 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Republican party in 2020

I'm trying to remember which republicans held primary challenges to Trump in 2020... I must be getting old.


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Garioshi
03/01/24 12:04:51 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
So you're just, what, pulling numbers out of your ass? All this tells us is that Biden isn't performing as well as some mythical supercandidate you've made up in your head.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6a723af5.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7c531e6a.jpg
A generic Democrat does 8 points better against Trump. A Democrat generally needs to win the popular vote by 2% in order to win due to how fucked the Electoral College is, and he's down %. Anyone else, I beg.

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Bigpapaplut
03/01/24 12:05:39 PM
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I'll run. Vote for me

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Torgo
03/01/24 12:08:05 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Republican party in 2020

Looked it up. Nope. Less of a primary than democrats are having now in 2024.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Republican_Party_presidential_primaries
In February 2019, the Republican National Committee voted to provide undivided support to Trump.[5][6] Several states canceled their primaries and caucuses.[7] Other states were encouraged to use "winner-takes-all" or "winner-takes-most" systems to award delegates instead of using proportional allocation.[8][9]


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Tanthalas
03/01/24 12:08:42 PM
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Garioshi posted...
he can barely string a sentence together.
I already wasnt taking you seriously before this post.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/01/24 12:08:50 PM
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Garioshi posted...
A generic Democrat does 8 points better against Trump. A Democrat generally needs to win the popular vote by 2% in order to win due to how fucked the Electoral College is, and he's down %. Anyone else, I beg.
A generic candidate will always do better than the actual candidate because a generic candidate is always a mythical supercandidate that people have made up in their own heads.

Even Trump is underperforming a generic Republican, though not to the same extent because his cult already treats him as a mythical supercandidate.

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C_Pain
03/01/24 12:11:54 PM
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LightningThief posted...
Another joins.
OK chud

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Mecha_Sonic
03/01/24 12:14:07 PM
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typical dumb boomer thinking from op

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Garioshi
03/01/24 12:15:11 PM
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Tanthalas posted...
I already wasnt taking you seriously before this post.
Go ahead and deny the obvious reality. The best defense Kamala can mount is that he knew exactly what he was doing the entire time he was unconditionally supporting Israel's genocide of the Palestinians.

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Tanthalas
03/01/24 12:16:46 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Go ahead and deny the obvious reality. The best defense Kamala can mount is that he knew exactly what he was doing the entire time he was unconditionally supporting Israel's genocide of the Palestinians.
Well, I do agree that your grasp on reality is tenuous.

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Block_that_Kick
03/01/24 12:16:53 PM
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Garioshi posted...


A generic Democrat does 8 points better against Trump.

Cool, go ahead and find that mystery generic Democrat that will save us all.

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Rexdragon125
03/01/24 12:18:12 PM
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>Pretends to give a shit about genocide
>Nothing to say about the guy who actually wants to be a dictator and uses Hitler speeches

Case #459238
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ssb_yunglink2
03/01/24 12:19:54 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Here's the weird way I look at it. Any democrat but Joe Biden would destroy Trump. Also any Republican other then Donald Trump would destroy Biden. Yet because it's Trump vs Biden it will be much closer then it has any right to be.

And I'm voting Biden.
No, any democrat thats not Biden will not automatically destroy Trump. Why do people think this?

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ssb_yunglink2
03/01/24 12:20:32 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
Cool, go ahead and find that mystery generic Democrat that will save us all.
Yeah its easy for a placeholder spot to do good in polls because a placeholder isnt an actual fucking person

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LoveLikeJazz
03/01/24 12:21:41 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
No, any democrat thats not Biden will not automatically destroy Trump. Why do people think this?
Because there's a clear feud between them. Maybe exacerbated by the media but still.

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Garioshi
03/01/24 12:22:01 PM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
>Pretends to give a shit about genocide
>Nothing to say about the guy who actually wants to be a dictator and uses Hitler speeches

Case #459238
Trump is obviously worse than Biden on policy, that's why I want him to lose. Biden is damn near the candidate that CAN lose to Trump, so I want someone that isn't him.

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Phantom_Nook
03/01/24 12:22:27 PM
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Garioshi posted...
so I want someone that isn't him.
such as?

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Sonic_Boom
03/01/24 12:22:45 PM
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When we see topics like this, the answer is to PUSH BACK. HARD. Joe Biden is the BEST Democrat president we've had in 50 years - yes, better than Obama! Joe Biden has accomplished more in four years than Obama did in 8 and Joe has had smaller margins in congress to do it. IF WE DON'T CONVINCE PEOPLE TO GET EXCITED ABOUT JOE BIDEN TRUMP WILL BECOME A FASCIST DICTATOR AND MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL DIE IN UKRAINE, TAIWAN, AND EASTERN EUROPE IF RUSSIA INVADES THE BALTICS

$500 million in climate investment
Reduced America's CO2 emissions by the equivalent of 1.2 Japans
He defeated inflation!!! First soft landing in 30 years!
Student loan reform/cancellation
Chips/Science act kick-starting American semiconductor sector
Walking the picket lines
Marriage equality
Defending the rights of gay/trans people!!!
Closing tax loopholes on investments
Investment into the IRS
Medicare drug price negotiation
Bringing American jobs back to the USA
Appointing a public defender to the Supreme Court

JOE BIDEN IS AMAZING, LET'S GET READY TO BEAT TRUMP1!!!!!

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ssb_yunglink2
03/01/24 12:23:04 PM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
Because there's a clear feud between them. Maybe exacerbated by the media but still.
So do you think swapping out Biden for Kamala Harris is a guaranteed Dem win? Shes a democrat thats not Biden.

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CSCA33
03/01/24 12:23:20 PM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
>Pretends to give a shit about genocide
>Nothing to say about the guy who actually wants to be a dictator and uses Hitler speeches

Case #459238
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PurpleOutsider
03/01/24 12:23:38 PM
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Garioshi posted...
He's an unconditional supporter of one of genocide and he can barely string a sentence together. Trump is up on Biden in 7 swing states by 2-7 points when any decent candidate should be up on him by 10. To deny this is to deny the plain-faced reality in front of you.
Hillary was up on Trump in early polling. Guess she must've won too.

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uwnim
03/01/24 12:24:33 PM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
>Pretends to give a shit about genocide
>Nothing to say about the guy who actually wants to be a dictator and uses Hitler speeches

Case #459238
It is fucking bullshit that this is the big problem.

The US supports Israel like we always do. And people act like this is totally unusual and Biden is just evil and wants to kill all the Palestinians.
While ignoring that hes telling Israel to chill out and the other guy tells Israel to kill them all.

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Heineken14
03/01/24 12:25:47 PM
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Garioshi posted...
he can barely string a sentence together.

Was wondering when it would start getting more right wing derpy.

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