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HylianFox
02/29/24 7:00:00 PM
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https://www.lpm.org/news/2024-02-29/after-mcconnell-news-ky-governor-stripped-of-power-to-fill-senate-vacancies-under-proposed-bill

A state House committee advanced a bill to fully strip the Kentucky governors power to fill a U.S. Senate vacancy, just a day after McConnell announced he will step down from his Senate leadership position.

A Kentucky House committee advanced a bill Thursday to fully strip the Democratic governors power to fill a vacancy in the states U.S. Senate seat one day after Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell announced he will step down from his leadership role this year.

The Republican-dominated state legislature had already passed a law in 2021 to shift such power away from the governor. Previously, the governor had the sole power to appoint someone to fill a Senate vacancy, but the new law requires the governor to choose from three nominees selected by the party of the senator leaving office, in advance of a special election.

House Bill 622 that passed out of committee Thursday would further remove the power of Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear in the event of such a vacancy, eliminating the governor's appointment power. Instead, the governor would have to call for a special election to fill the seat, under the same process in place in the event of a U.S. House seat vacancy.

Republican House Floor Leader Steven Rudy of Paducah said in committee his bill is more within the spirit of the 17th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution than the current law.

Senators used to be selected by their states legislature, but a 1913 amendment states that a special election shall be called in the event of a U.S. Senate vacancy. It also gives state legislatures the ability to give governors the authority to make temporary appointments to fill that vacancy.

God forbid we have any vacancy in a U.S. senator, I think that the people would want to decide who their senator was, Rudy said.

McConnell announced on the Senate floor Wednesday he will step down as Senate GOP leader when his term in that role ends in November, though he added he will stay in office until at least January 2027, when his Senate term ends. He has not yet indicated if he will run for reelection in 2026.

Republican leaders in the Kentucky legislature expressed some surprise after McConnells announcement Wednesday, as they had just hosted a campaign fundraiser for him a week earlier.

That fundraiser was on February 20, the day before HB 622 was filed.

Beshear vetoed the previous bill to dilute his power to fill a vacancy, arguing that it violated both the state and federal Constitution. He pointed out that Section 152 of the Kentucky Constitution states a governor shall fill vacancies in offices for the state at large with appointments.

After McConnell had multiple health scares last year including freezing up at two press conferences until aides and colleagues stepped in to assist him Beshear refused to directly answer whether he would follow that law in the event of a Senate vacancy, or challenge it in court.

Spokespersons for Beshear did not immediately return a request for comment on whether he thinks the bill is constitutional, but the governor did slam the bill as a partisan effort to tear away his power at his Thursday press conference.

If we are just dominated by trying to create a result of what letter someone would have behind their name, if appointed, then we are not performing or engaging in good government, Beshear said.

Governors in 35 states are allowed to fill Senate vacancies without any restrictions. Only four states do not allow a governor to make an appointment, leaving the seat vacant until a special election.

Addressing questions about the constitutionality of the bill, Rudy said he hoped the law would be followed and not challenged in court should his bill pass.

I think this is well within the spirit of and follows directly the 17th Amendment of the United States Constitution, which trumps the state constitution in matters, Rudy said.

Rudy did not mention McConnell in his remarks, but joked that he could see a scenario where one of our United States senators accidentally gets elected president of the United States, and that would trigger this law at that point, as well.

After the vote, Rudy told reporters his bill was not a conspiracy, as he proposed the same bill in 2021, preferring it over the current confusing and convoluted vacancy law. He said his proposal was spurred by the case of former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who was convicted of public corruption for his actions to fill a Senate vacancy there.

I just don't think the governor should be involved in this, because the people should be able to elect a United States senator, should there be a vacancy, just like they can elect them through the normal process, Rudy said.

The 2021 law was passed at the direct urging of McConnell, a little more than a year after Beshear was elected, unseating a Republican.

Seeing as how ol' Mitch blocked Obama from appointing a new SC Justice, it's only in keeping with their track record.

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Kradek
02/29/24 7:08:38 PM
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These sacks of shit have done this in various states, a Dem governor comes in and the Republican legislature strips them of pretty much all power. When a Republican comes in they'll either overrule themselves through legislation or just agree with whatever the governor wants.

It's sickening and unfortunately all I can do is hope Dems do the same when the shoe is on the other foot. Taking the high road hasn't taken us anywhere useful, what actually helps us is neutering these Christo-fascist white supremacists from harming the country as much as they can be.

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Xatrion
02/29/24 7:15:09 PM
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Mitch the Bitch, et al, living up to his name.

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ClayGuida
02/29/24 7:17:16 PM
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They passed a bill like 3 years ago that said Andy would have to pick from a group of 5 that Republicans choose. Now this?

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mybbqrules
02/29/24 11:00:31 PM
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Republicans are cheaters in politics.

In other news, the sun rose in the east today.

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GrandConjuraton
02/29/24 11:59:23 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
Republicans are cheaters in politics.

In other news, the sun rose in the east today.


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Thanatos_the_Great
03/01/24 3:49:05 AM
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It's stupid that the governor gets to appoint a replacement senator. There should be an election (unless the seat is coming up for regular election within a few weeks anyway, in which case just leave it vacant until then).

But of course the GOP have managed to find a way to replace a bad system with an even worse one.

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ClayGuida
03/01/24 7:14:25 PM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
It's stupid that the governor gets to appoint a replacement senator. There should be an election (unless the seat is coming up for regular election within a few weeks anyway, in which case just leave it vacant until then).

But of course the GOP have managed to find a way to replace a bad system with an even worse one.
States used to appoint Senators, not voters.

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Thanatos_the_Great
03/01/24 7:27:27 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
States used to appoint Senators, not voters.

Exactly - used to. Governors appointing someone to fill a vacancy is a historical relic that should have been done away with long ago.

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ClayGuida
03/01/24 7:29:32 PM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
Exactly - used to. Governors appointing someone to fill a vacancy is a historical relic that should have been done away with long ago.
The point of it is to make sure that people have representation until either the next election, or they can hold an election.

Since this is an election year, if McConnell stepped down today, they'd appoint a new one until November when they'd hold an actual election.

Like when Doug Jones was elected in Alabama.

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DnDer
03/01/24 7:33:06 PM
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HylianFox posted...
Republican House Floor Leader Steven Rudy of Paducah said in committee his bill is more within the spirit of the 17th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution than the current law.

Narrator: That was a lie.

HylianFox posted...
Governors in 35 states are allowed to fill Senate vacancies without any restrictions. Only four states do not allow a governor to make an appointment, leaving the seat vacant until a special election.

I wonder which ones it would be. I just do so wonder.

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Thanatos_the_Great
03/01/24 7:33:35 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
Since this is an election year, if McConnell stepped down today, they'd appoint a new one until November when they'd hold an actual election.

The sensible thing would be to hold an election now.

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creativerealms
03/01/24 7:34:39 PM
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They learned from the master, McConnell himself.

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Solar_Crimson
03/01/24 7:34:53 PM
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Kradek posted...
It's sickening and unfortunately all I can do is hope Dems do the same when the shoe is on the other foot. Taking the high road hasn't taken us anywhere useful, what actually helps us is neutering these Christo-fascist white supremacists from harming the country as much as they can be.
This is how I feel. Taking the high road just means that the GOP can slash at the Dem's knees until the Dems are too injured to move anymore.

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DnDer
03/01/24 7:35:22 PM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
Exactly - used to. Governors appointing someone to fill a vacancy is a historical relic that should have been done away with long ago.

There are other historical relics that are much more deserving of being addressed, fixed, and/or abolished way, way before something like this one.

Priorities.

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Thanatos_the_Great
03/01/24 7:37:42 PM
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DnDer posted...
There are other historical relics that are much more deserving of being addressed, fixed, and/or abolished way, way before something like this one. Priorities.

It's not either/or.

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wackyteen
03/01/24 7:37:56 PM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
Exactly - used to. Governors appointing someone to fill a vacancy is a historical relic that should have been done away with long ago.
Well, the GOP wants to go back to the 1800s so they can deal with this quirk.

Fuck em

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ClayGuida
03/01/24 7:39:17 PM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
The sensible thing would be to hold an election now.
I mean, do you understand how hard it is to hold a state wide election?

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wackyteen
03/01/24 7:41:16 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
I mean, do you understand how hard it is to hold a state wide election?
GOP at large doesn't seem to have an issue wasting money on bullshit elections or challenging elections, so why should it matter how 'hard' it is?


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ClayGuida
03/01/24 7:46:21 PM
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wackyteen posted...
GOP at large doesn't seem to have an issue wasting money on bullshit elections or challenging elections, so why should it matter how 'hard' it is?
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Thanatos_the_Great
03/01/24 7:52:37 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
I mean, do you understand how hard it is to hold a state wide election?

Not so hard that it takes longer than waiting the nine months before the next regular election is due. Here in the UK we managed to organise a nationwide snap election in 2019 in 46 days (two and a half years before we were ordinarily due to have one), and our population is around 15 times that of Kentucky.

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Robot2600
03/01/24 7:54:56 PM
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your population is 60?

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wackyteen
03/01/24 8:12:19 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
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all i'm saying is, is that if they want to begin to bitch about it being costly or difficult, then they should reign in their contemporaries

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