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Zikten
02/29/24 2:21:34 PM
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https://youtu.be/s7hhIsKahk0?si=qXErtEFUsEEVY8f6

A group of young adults were in a car and they accidentally found themselves on a private road. So they were turning around when the owner came out with a gun and shot at the car. A woman passenger was hit and died. He was found guilty in January. He gets sentenced tomorrow.
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Samurai_Man
02/29/24 2:24:22 PM
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Good. Hope he gets the book thrown at him in full. Gives a bad name to all responsible gun owners. You can't just shoot someone with no threat present.

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Irony
02/29/24 2:25:14 PM
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Samurai_Man posted...
Good. Hope he gets the book thrown at him in full. Gives a bad name to all responsible gun owners. You can't just shoot someone with no threat present.
Glad you only read the title

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havean776
02/29/24 2:29:03 PM
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Irony posted...
Glad you only read the title
Okay what's your defence? He tripped and fired twice at the car?

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Iyami
02/29/24 2:30:08 PM
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Irony posted...
Glad you only read the title
What did you read to give that response?
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Irony
02/29/24 2:32:15 PM
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Iyami posted...
What did you read to give that response?
When he said he hoped they throw the book at him in full.

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Jupiter
02/29/24 2:32:44 PM
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I remember this story. Glad he was found guilty. Stupid trigger-happy pos. And that whole part about tripping and firing a second time is such bull. Also, damn, that girl looks so much like my ex from high school.

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Iyami
02/29/24 2:33:44 PM
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Irony posted...
When he said he hoped they throw the book at him in full.
I believe by throw the book one refers to not that they should go to court but that he wants their upcoming sentencing to be harsh. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the phrase?
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SiO4
02/29/24 2:35:44 PM
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Ya, I know this case pretty well.
It happened not to far away from me.
And the victim is from one town over, to the east.

Some of the testimony that was used to try and get murder off the hook, is really dumb.
Among other things, he said he shot a warning shot to "Start a dialog"....cause you I always want to chat about a mistake after shots are fired...and his defense said, his rist was too injured to fire the second shot on purpose.
Only after saying the second shot was the gun malfunctioning.

This could have happened to me or one of my friends back in the day, easily, with today's mindset.
We regularly took drives around that general area, and absolutely in and around Schylerville, where she was from.

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Mibahlzitch
02/29/24 2:36:43 PM
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It's a ridiculous defense because there's no way someone turning around in your driveway is worth pulling a gun to begin with.

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TMOG
02/29/24 2:37:48 PM
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Irony posted...
When he said he hoped they throw the book at him in full.
Do you know the difference between "found guilty" and "sentencing"? They haven't decided what this guy's punishment will be yet, only that he's deserving of one.
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Samurai_Man
02/29/24 2:39:25 PM
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Iyami posted...
I believe by throw the book one refers to not that they should go to court but that he wants their upcoming sentencing to be harsh. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the phrase?
Oh the irony

It's a pretty common term, glad you understood my reference

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SiO4
02/29/24 2:44:09 PM
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Mibahlzitch posted...
It's a ridiculous defense because there's no way someone turning around in your driveway is worth pulling a gun to begin with.


The onnnnly possible reason to fire a warning shot where he is at, is because there is a maximum security - Comstock - prison rather close, so the threat of an escapee could be real. But I don't even think that was presented.

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LoZguy709
02/29/24 2:47:52 PM
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Who the fuck gets threatened by someone pulling into their driveway? People like this don't deserve property to stand their ground on.
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TMOG
02/29/24 2:49:05 PM
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LoZguy709 posted...
Who the fuck gets threatened by someone pulling into their driveway?
Paranoid conservatives who think the woke is coming to get them
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SiO4
02/29/24 2:51:19 PM
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Here is the latest radio report I heard about an hour ago about this.
It's from our Local NPR Station, so it's straight up.

https://www.wamc.org/news/2024-02-29/monahan-to-be-sentenced-friday-in-fatal-hebron-driveway-shooting

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boomgetchopped3
02/29/24 2:53:20 PM
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Its so weird that he was just sitting on his porch with a gun. Wtf.

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LoZguy709
02/29/24 2:54:49 PM
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TMOG posted...
Paranoid conservatives who think the woke is coming to get them

Yeah, a little paranoia of loss of liberty via prison time seems fitting. Whatever gets these meatheads to think twice before resorting to a means of immediate deadly force.
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DipDipDiver
02/29/24 3:01:18 PM
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My understanding is that warning shots are something that only applies to police and military, if a civilian does it then it is legally the same as just shooting at someone

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Kai_Laguna
02/29/24 3:07:29 PM
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SiO4 posted...
The onnnnly possible reason to fire a warning shot where he is at, is because there is a maximum security - Comstock - prison rather close, so the threat of an escapee could be real. But I don't even think that was presented.
At least for citizens, wwrning shots are illegal.
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C_Pain
02/29/24 3:08:45 PM
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I was gonna ask again? But yes I remember this case.

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SiO4
02/29/24 3:11:52 PM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
Its so weird that he was just sitting on his porch with a gun. Wtf.


He said that he was asleep when they drove up.
And said the shots were probably from hunters behind his house.
But he seems to 'misremember' quite a lot of things.

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Guide
02/29/24 3:13:07 PM
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Irony posted...
When he said he hoped they throw the book at him in full.

oh the ironing board

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SiO4
02/29/24 3:14:39 PM
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Kai_Laguna posted...

At least for citizens, wwrning shots are illegal.


Well, he was scared.
And then he did not kill anyone, the gun did it on its own.

>_>

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Umbreon
02/29/24 3:24:51 PM
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Life or death penalty

There needs to be terrible consequences for being this idiotic with a gun.

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Bass
02/29/24 3:31:07 PM
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Fuck this guy. Hope he goes away for a long, long time.

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SiO4
02/29/24 3:32:13 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Life or death penalty

There needs to be terrible consequences for being this idiotic with a gun.


He's facing 25 to life.
Wouldn't it be something if was sent to the same Max Prison near to the site of the crime...there are some fuck up people in there. Like real Downstate hardcore types.

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Tanthalas
02/29/24 3:55:37 PM
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SiO4 posted...
He said that he was asleep when they drove up.
And said the shots were probably from hunters behind his house.
But he seems to 'misremember' quite a lot of things.
Did he really try to say that he didn't shoot anyone and the shots were from someone else?

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SiO4
02/29/24 4:20:36 PM
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Tanthalas posted...

Did he really try to say that he didn't shoot anyone and the shots were from someone else?


Not really, but that is what he told police when they showed up a few hours later, after a noise complaint.

In the meantime, the victim was bleeding out in the car as her friends watched on.

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legendarylemur
02/29/24 4:23:04 PM
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That dude was definitely fiddling with his gun going through his protect his lawn fantasies til the perfect opportunity showed up

He's just a crazed murderer, nothing more

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SiO4
02/29/24 4:37:56 PM
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legendarylemur posted...
That dude was definitely fiddling with his gun going through his protect his lawn fantasies til the perfect opportunity showed up

He's just a crazed murderer, nothing more


He's most likely protecting pine trees.
And scared AF of squirrels.
It is in The Mountains.

All joking aside.

However as I stated before, I gave the only plausible reason why he should feel threatened in that situation.
There really is a Max security prison too far from where it happened, and people can escape.
But a Warning shot would have been enough. It is effectively in the middle of nowhere. Not to say it's not a nice area.

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CableZL
03/01/24 10:59:40 AM
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https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/1763590097755099416

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Zikten
03/01/24 11:21:07 AM
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Nice
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Orange_Ninja
03/01/24 12:13:23 PM
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CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/FrankFigliuzzi1/status/1763590097755099416
Good. Fuck this asshole

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Torgo
03/01/24 12:15:20 PM
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Mibahlzitch posted...
It's a ridiculous defense because there's no way someone turning around in your driveway is worth pulling a gun to begin with.

This is the result of white privilege + gun culture + libertarian brain rot

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Thanatos_the_Great
03/01/24 12:19:35 PM
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Samurai_Man posted...
Gives a bad name to all responsible gun owners.

"Responsible gun owner" is a contradiction in terms.

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Lordgold666
03/01/24 12:36:04 PM
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Thanatos_the_Great posted...
"Responsible gun owner" is a contradiction in terms.
Shut the fuck up

Law abiding gun owners shouldnt have their 2a right infringed on bc someone else broke the law

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Alteres
03/01/24 12:37:40 PM
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Torgo posted...
This is the result of white privilege + gun culture + libertarian brain rot
You really shouldn't drive in some parts of the city

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VampireCoyote
03/01/24 12:41:10 PM
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The truth is that a lot of people just love hurting others and killing and theyll use any opportunity that they consider justifiable to be violent and lethal.

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Scintillant
03/01/24 12:45:05 PM
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Yeah I feel like gun culture at this point in time is just desperately finding ways to legally kill people (see Kyle Rittenhouse)

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ironman2009
03/01/24 12:45:22 PM
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25 to life sentence

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SiO4
03/01/24 1:11:48 PM
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Alteres posted...
You really shouldn't drive in some parts of the city


I know what you are saying.

But that is not the case here.
This happened well outside of even a small town.

What I didn't realize until today was, it was actually two SUVS and one Motorcycle.

Still, he certainly wanted to pop some.

VampireCoyote posted...
The truth is that a lot of people just love hurting others and killing and theyll use any opportunity that they consider justifiable to be violent and lethal.

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Alles-Losen
03/01/24 1:13:44 PM
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Iyami posted...

I believe by throw the book one refers to not that they should go to court but that he wants their upcoming sentencing to be harsh. Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the phrase?

His gimmick is being dense. Or maybe he really is and pretends its a gimmick.

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Ruvan22
03/01/24 3:11:32 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Shut the fuck up

Law abiding gun owners shouldnt have their 2a right infringed on bc someone else broke the law

So how do you tell the "law abiding gun owners" from those who will break the law?
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EPR-radar
03/01/24 3:15:17 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
So how do you tell the "law abiding gun owners" from those who will break the law?
That's the trick. You don't.

It still amazes me how efficiently the Las Vegas shooting was memory holed.

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Thanatos_the_Great
03/01/24 7:16:45 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Law abiding gun owners shouldnt have their 2a right infringed on bc someone else broke the law

Yeah they should.

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ablegator
03/01/24 7:34:17 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Shut the fuck up

Law abiding gun owners shouldnt have their 2a right infringed on bc someone else broke the law
No question. Trying to limit gun ownership is disrespectful to all the children who died to secure unfettered access to all manner of guns.

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crayola555
03/01/24 7:51:47 PM
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Lordgold666 posted...
Shut the fuck up

Law abiding gun owners shouldnt have their 2a right infringed on bc someone else broke the law

Man shut the fuck up. It's not even about your gun rights and amendments anymore, there's people innocently dying cause of the rampant gun violence. Your 2nd amendment is not worth the 2-3 school shootings every month.

By your logic we should allow drinking alcohol and driving then, I mean it's only the few that are irresponsible that fucks up. Why should that privilege be infringed for everyone just for a few drunken drivers?

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SiO4
03/01/24 11:05:56 PM
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crayola555 posted...
By your logic we should allow drinking alcohol and driving then, I mean it's only the few that are irresponsible that fucks up. Why should that privilege be infringed for everyone just for a few drunken drivers?


Believe it or not, and I shit you not.
There is a town that borders where this happened that was dry for 86 years.
Like for real. I used to drive through it with cool 12-packs of beer that I got in Vermont, which was a weird feeling when someone told me that it was a dry town.

I had no clue there was a dry town in NY this late into time.

Sorry kinda wordy, but it really gets straight to you point in a very good way.

Alcohol was banned for 86 years, and guns were okay in both towns right next to each other.

The whole thing is wild.

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2019/10/31/largest-dry-town-new-york-vote-alcohol-sales-argyle-liquor-beer-wine/4114075002/

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