Current Events > Is FF7 remake even a remake in a conventional sense?

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I mean, usually a movie remake is understood to be a reimagining of the original film.

Gaming remakes though, usually follow the original plot (sometimes with extra plot points of storylines). FF7 seems to a different game to the original with a needlessly "Kingdom Heartized" plot. People who wanted the original but with modern day graphics are probably disappointed.

Someone needs to tell squeenix that black cloaks aren't nearly as badass as they seem to think they are

It's a sequel that follows the original's plot but you actually need to be aware of the original's plot first for it to make sense.

I don't think a video game remake has to be the same game with prettier graphics. It's fine if you want to consider it a reimagining though.

Raikuro posted...

Someone needs to tell squeenix that black cloaks aren't nearly as badass as they seem to think they are

They already know. Play the new part of the demo if you get a chance. There's a great scene at the start of it.

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cousinvini posted...

Gaming remakes though, usually follow the original plot

Which is what Remake does. Yes, it embellishes and changes certain aspects, but it still follows the core plot.

StealThisSheen posted...

Which is what Remake does. Yes, it embellishes and changes certain aspects, but it still follows the core plot.

Only thing i can think off thats flat out missing, is the basement of Tifas bar.

Personally Remake and Remaster are a bit.. vague and can cover a lot of things. Pokemon BDSP is a remake though it doesnt change or add as much as youd expect

The ff7 remake project to me, just feels like the opposite. That is.. a VERY ambitious take on what remake means.

SuperVegitoFAN posted...

Only thing i can think off thats flat out missing, is the basement of Tifas bar.

It's still there, you just don't see it.

I think what some people want is more of a remaster than a remake. Aka the exact same thing but just prettier.

A remake can change things up.

BalanceLost posted...

I think what some people want is more of a remaster than a remake. Aka the exact same thing but just prettier.

A remake can change things up.

This. FF7 Remake is very much a remake, but some people seemed to want nothing changed, which is more of a remaster than a remake. Remakes pretty regularly change things up, while still hitting the same relative notes.

The issue I think is more that despite largely following the original game's core plot, the story itself is not 1 to 1 to the PS1 game.

SPOILERS:

The entire premise of these new games is that they are now trying to prevent certain events from happening since the party essentially saw what ends up happening in the future at the end of the original game. These events they saw are, apparently, the bad future and they now are trying to change that outcome. Its the whole reason the "plot ghosts" or the Whispers as they are actually called are even a thing in Remake. I mean Remake literally ends with the line "The unknown journey will continue..." meaning that the future games are not going to rigidly stick to the original plot completely, even if many story beats are the same. There will be different outcomes in the end.

This is why people say the new games are a sequel to the original game instead of just a remake. They are remakes in the sense that they are technically the old game being remade with current gen technology but they are also remakes in that they are "remaking" the plot to get a different outcome. It's rather clever honestly.

Lots of people were divided in this approach for good reason because I think most people, myself included, were just looking for the same core plot with extra and/or expanded story beats and additions instead of what they went with, which is traditionally what remakes usually entail, but it otherwise ends the exact same way or at least largely the same way as the original.

Remasters don't change a damn thing outside of QoL stuff and upgraded visuals usually. SOMETIMES they might have new content and/or small story bits but otherwise it fundamentally doesn't change or affect the original story too much. It's the same exact game in the end.

As far as movie remakes go, since the TC mentioned it, I think they usually opt to change a lot of things in these remakes because they are updating things in them to fit with modern audiences (and some game remakes do this too) and depending on the movie, whatever updates they make might not necessarily work with what the original movie had. In this instance, they will instead adapt what they can to try and follow the original plot and end up changing the events in the story to fit better, which can be either better or worse depending on who you ask. The ending as a result might either be the same, largely the same, or completely different. It all depends on what changes.

I edited and wrote a lot more than i expected to lol

It's a remake.

Its a sequel in the same way the EVA Rebuild movies or the Netflix Scott Pilgrim anime are.

It's self-admitted by the devs that it's a reimagining, which does way more than a conventional remake.