Current Events > Would you say you believe in a stronger federal or state level government?

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Whichever benefits me more

I don't really see the point of a state/provincial government and functionally they are only used to manipulate industry, which is ultimately the best use of a provincial government in a diverse economy. Look at Alberta's oil bias and conservative government for example. Or the liberal east which used to have a booming fisheries business that slowly (or quickly) tanked historically. Or Quebec with its identity politics and the Bloc. I guess the resources or context bias can be a good thing for ad hoc policy.

Historically land was divided to give power to your buddies, now we just live with how that turned out. I guess that is historical materialism.

PraxagoraKassan posted...

I don't really see the point of a state/provincial government and functionally they are only used to manipulate industry, which is ultimately the best use of a provincial government in a diverse economy. Look at Alberta's oil bias and conservative government for example. Or the liberal east which used to have a booming fisheries business that slowly (or quickly) tanked historically. Or Quebec with its identity politics and the Bloc. I guess the resources or context bias can be a good thing for ad hoc policy.

Historically land was divided to give power to your buddies, now we just live with how that turned out. I guess that is historical materialism.

State level governments are good to best address their state/areas specific environmental and political concerns. They definitely have their place and in some cases should probably wield more power than the federal government.

However what we're seeing more and more of, as we've moved away from a primarily industrial economy, is states being more concerned about exploiting the citizenry to attract or fight business (see Florida and Didney) or cutting/negatively impacting social programs in order to attract businesses (see Missouri and eliminating its Corporate income tax). States still have their relevant economic industries (Texas/North Dakota and oil fields) obviously, but I feel like we're just going to see this downward spiral of states 'one-upping' in a desperate bid to attract big business.

wackyteen posted...

State level governments are good to best address their state/areas specific environmental and political concerns. They definitely have their place and in some cases should probably wield more power than the federal government.

However what we're seeing more and more of, as we've moved away from a primarily industrial economy, is states being more concerned about exploiting the citizenry to attract or fight business (see Florida and Didney) or cutting/negatively impacting social programs in order to attract businesses (see Missouri and eliminating its Corporate income tax). States still have their relevant economic industries (Texas/North Dakota and oil fields) obviously, but I feel like we're just going to see this downward spiral of states 'one-upping' in a desperate bid to attract big business.

Tbh this company first approach to economic growth is alien to me because Canadian politics is very family focused. We still have that kind of thing too though. And yeah when the state controls industry they will court power that goes beyond the reach of national boundaries. Also a lot of the state logic is heavily dependent on people always being able to move, which is not always possible.

You cannot trust state governments to not be backwards as fuck.

Governments in general suck. Human beings cannot be trusted to govern each other fairly or efficiently.