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Smackems 02/15/24 10:33:00 AM #1: |
I wanted to build him out as a black mage (don't) but he just doesn't have the stats
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Irony 02/15/24 10:33:31 AM #2: |
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Jerry_Hellyeah 02/15/24 10:33:53 AM #3: |
Whaddya mean he doesn't have the stats? Stats for what?
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s0nicfan 02/15/24 10:33:55 AM #4: |
If you're talking about the remake, he's mostly a tank. Focus on buffing his defense, throw some defensive spells on him from another character, and then allow him to provoke the enemy and soak up damage.
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trappedunderice 02/15/24 10:34:04 AM #5: |
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mario2000 02/15/24 10:34:13 AM #6: |
Badass
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Foppe 02/15/24 10:34:17 AM #7: |
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VeggetaX 02/15/24 10:34:29 AM #8: |
Ranged
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Smackems 02/15/24 10:36:08 AM #9: |
s0nicfan posted...
If you're talking about the remake, he's mostly a tank. Focus on buffing his defense, throw some defensive spells on him from another character, and then allow him to provoke the enemy and soak up damage.But he's ranged What kinda tank is ranged And in that case wtf is cloud supposed to be Jerry_Hellyeah posted... Whaddya mean he doesn't have the stats? Stats for what?Magic --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turbam 02/15/24 10:36:23 AM #10: |
Smackems posted...
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Smackems 02/15/24 10:36:46 AM #11: |
Turbam posted...
HmmmmmmmmmmmmmUH OH --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alteres 02/15/24 10:37:10 AM #12: |
Turbam posted...
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s0nicfan 02/15/24 10:38:05 AM #13: |
Smackems posted...
But he's ranged Being a tank is about drawing aggro and soaking damage. Nothing about him being ranged to prevents him from doing that. It just lets him poke and piss off enemies across the greater part of the battlefield. And by endgame I would describe cloud as DPS with an emphasis on stagger and counterhit. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vycebrand2 02/15/24 10:38:52 AM #14: |
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Smackems 02/15/24 10:39:18 AM #15: |
s0nicfan posted...
Being a tank is about drawing aggro and soaking damage. Nothing about him being ranged to prevents him from doing that. It just lets him poke and piss off enemies across the greater part of the battlefield.But if Barret is taking the agro how's he supposed to cou- you know what, it doesn't matter I'm gonna continue with cloud being a paladin and Barret being a black mage even if he sucks at it --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 02/15/24 10:39:23 AM #16: |
FF7 doesn't have "classes." Heck, no FF game outside of the ones with actual jobs like FF5 have "classes." That's why I dislike FF6 Advance for putting titles like "monk" on Sabin. They will never be like D&D and other proper RPGs.
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Smackems 02/15/24 10:40:27 AM #17: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
FF7 doesn't have "classes." Heck, no FF game outside of the ones with actual jobs like FF5 have "classes." That's why I dislike FF6 Advance for putting titles like "monk" on Sabin.When they created the characters though they had some shit in mind for them. Like clearly tifa is a monk and cid is a dragoon --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Target 02/15/24 10:41:03 AM #18: |
Megaman
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s0nicfan 02/15/24 10:41:20 AM #19: |
Smackems posted...
But if Barret is taking the agro how's he supposed to cou- you know what, it doesn't matter Cloud's counter hit abilities are mostly useful in boss battles where you don't have Barrett and/or the rest of the party. When Barrett is around drawing aggro cloud's main job is building stagger. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 02/15/24 10:42:03 AM #20: |
BAMF
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Smackems 02/15/24 10:42:50 AM #21: |
Only having one magnify is ass
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HudGard 02/15/24 11:18:36 AM #22: |
Barret has melee weapons too
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ArsGoetia 02/15/24 11:20:58 AM #23: |
would both at the same time https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/63ceffb2.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaxEffingBemis 02/15/24 11:20:59 AM #24: |
Barrett always rides my bench once I get more party members. Hes always been underwhelming to me
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Smackems 02/15/24 11:22:50 AM #25: |
ArsGoetia posted...
wouldHoly fuck that black lady is HOT --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 02/15/24 11:23:34 AM #26: |
MaxEffingBemis posted...
Barrett always rides my bench once I get more party members. Hes always been underwhelming to meEasily the best character personality wise tho --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jaguar34 02/15/24 11:35:39 AM #27: |
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Ricemills 02/15/24 11:40:43 AM #28: |
Smackems posted...
What kinda tank is ranged Real tanks --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 02/15/24 11:45:06 AM #29: |
Ricemills posted...
Real tanksOh.....my...god.... --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 02/15/24 12:03:56 PM #30: |
MaxEffingBemis posted... Barrett always rides my bench once I get more party members. Hes always been underwhelming to meCharacters in remake are actually pretty balanced, but overall cloud, Barrett, aerith is a bit more effective. You really missed out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 02/15/24 12:08:56 PM #31: |
pazzy posted...
Characters in remake are actually pretty balanced, but overall cloud, Barrett, aerith is a bit more effective. You really missed out.People always had a hard on for tifas effectiveness but it must be like a meta thing because I don't find her super useful --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuuuDe14 02/15/24 12:13:13 PM #32: |
Tifa is best when she can combo an enemy. If she can't stunlock them or if the enemy is hyper aggressive just use Cloud.
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ArsGoetia 02/15/24 12:13:29 PM #33: |
Smackems posted... Holy fuck that black lady is HOT yeah shes stupid fine https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ed18132a.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 02/15/24 12:23:38 PM #34: |
Smackems posted...
What kinda tank is rangedBow Ancestors Barbarians. Snipe and force enemies to come to you or have a harder time hitting anybody else. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Holy_Cloud105 02/15/24 12:25:30 PM #35: |
pazzy posted...
Characters in remake are actually pretty balanced, but overall cloud, Barrett, aerith is a bit more effective. You really missed out.Cloud is worse at everything compared to everyone else. What are you talking about? Tifa is the best melee, Aerith is the best magic attacker/healer and Barret is a better tank and ranged. He's the jack of all trades master of none character. --- Currently Playing: The Legend of Heroes: Trails into Reverie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 02/15/24 12:27:48 PM #36: |
Smackems posted... But he's rangedA good one, because then he takes less damage from most attacks. You can still give him the Cover materia and he does his job great, taking hits for the entire party with his massive HP pool. Smackems posted... And in that case wtf is cloud supposed to beOverpowered main character who can kind of do everything ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MaxEffingBemis 02/15/24 12:40:16 PM #37: |
pazzy posted...
Characters in remake are actually pretty balanced, but overall cloud, Barrett, aerith is a bit more effective. You really missed out.I was referring to OG FF7 --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Venixon 02/15/24 12:45:42 PM #39: |
He's Mr. T class
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Smackems 02/15/24 12:46:27 PM #40: |
ArsGoetia posted...
yeah shes stupid fineMore TMOG posted... A good one, because then he takes less damage from most attacks. You can still give him the Cover materia and he does his job great, taking hits for the entire party with his massive HP pool.Cover? You mean in the og? He kinda has that in remake with an ability --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kami_no_Kami 02/15/24 12:48:27 PM #41: |
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Smackems 02/15/24 12:48:58 PM #42: |
Kami_no_Kami posted...
Thief.Thief/black mage? --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 02/15/24 1:00:53 PM #43: |
Holy_Cloud105 posted... Cloud is worse at everything compared to everyone else. What are you talking about? Tifa is the best melee, Aerith is the best magic attacker/healer and Barret is a better tank and ranged. He's the jack of all trades master of none character.Not really. Cloud is good for staggering. And counter stance . He's a bit better at handling himself against multiple enemies. Tifa is better when there's one enemy. Most often, you're fighting multiple enemies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pazzy 02/15/24 1:01:18 PM #44: |
MaxEffingBemis posted... I was referring to OG FF7In original he's one of the best characters in the game by far. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 02/15/24 1:03:22 PM #45: |
ARM GUN GUY bang bang bang
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s0nicfan 02/15/24 1:10:56 PM #46: |
Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Cloud is worse at everything compared to everyone else. What are you talking about? Tifa is the best melee, Aerith is the best magic attacker/healer and Barret is a better tank and ranged. He's the jack of all trades master of none character. The trade-off is he has the most flexibility in how you build him which is useful since the game regularly rotates out party members you can play with. Don't have barrett? Make him a tank. Don't have tifa? Make him dps. Don't have aerith? Throw all the healing stuff on him. But his counter stance is where he really shines and completely trivializes a couple of otherwise very difficult battles once you have it, in a way that no other character would have been able to do. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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King_Rial 02/15/24 1:16:56 PM #47: |
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Bow Ancestors Barbarians.Swarmed by Giant Rats, and out of nowhere a Glowing Arrow just wrecks you. Those dudes were assholes. lol --- I use Google... A lot.... >______> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McMarbles 02/15/24 1:27:44 PM #48: |
Smackems posted...
I wanted to build him out as a black mage (don't) but he just doesn't have the statsRanger. Except with a machine gun instead of a bow. --- Currently playing: Final Fantasy VI Pixel Remaster (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vycebrand2 02/15/24 7:48:27 PM #49: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
FF7 doesn't have "classes." Heck, no FF game outside of the ones with actual jobs like FF5 have "classes." That's why I dislike FF6 Advance for putting titles like "monk" on Sabin. They will never be like D&D and other proper RPGs.His moves classify him as a monk, like celes is a rune knight, Terra a black mage. Strago blu mage..etc. There are a few classes that are in 6 only like mog and relm --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 02/15/24 9:00:55 PM #50: |
yes barret is a tank class in the original.
The reason he is ranged, is because the "backrow" characters take waaaay less damage in this game, so he can take advantage of that. The first materia you find is "cover" which you are supposed to put on Barret as he's in the backrow and will use that to mitigate some of the incoming damage. Ironically this also makes Aeris a good tank, like a paladin white mage. --- --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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