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Smackems
02/15/24 10:33:00 AM
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I wanted to build him out as a black mage (don't) but he just doesn't have the stats

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Irony
02/15/24 10:33:31 AM
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Jerry_Hellyeah
02/15/24 10:33:53 AM
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Whaddya mean he doesn't have the stats? Stats for what?

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s0nicfan
02/15/24 10:33:55 AM
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If you're talking about the remake, he's mostly a tank. Focus on buffing his defense, throw some defensive spells on him from another character, and then allow him to provoke the enemy and soak up damage.

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trappedunderice
02/15/24 10:34:04 AM
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Gunzerker
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02/15/24 10:34:13 AM
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Badass

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02/15/24 10:34:17 AM
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Badass

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VeggetaX
02/15/24 10:34:29 AM
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Ranged

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Smackems
02/15/24 10:36:08 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
If you're talking about the remake, he's mostly a tank. Focus on buffing his defense, throw some defensive spells on him from another character, and then allow him to provoke the enemy and soak up damage.
But he's ranged

What kinda tank is ranged

And in that case wtf is cloud supposed to be

Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Whaddya mean he doesn't have the stats? Stats for what?
Magic

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Turbam
02/15/24 10:36:23 AM
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Smackems posted...
wanted to build him out as a black mage
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Smackems
02/15/24 10:36:46 AM
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Turbam posted...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
UH OH

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Alteres
02/15/24 10:37:10 AM
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Turbam posted...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Ayyyy

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s0nicfan
02/15/24 10:38:05 AM
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Smackems posted...
But he's ranged

What kinda tank is ranged

And in that case wtf is cloud supposed to be

Being a tank is about drawing aggro and soaking damage. Nothing about him being ranged to prevents him from doing that. It just lets him poke and piss off enemies across the greater part of the battlefield.

And by endgame I would describe cloud as DPS with an emphasis on stagger and counterhit.

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vycebrand2
02/15/24 10:38:52 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
Ranged
In traditional FF. Ranger

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Smackems
02/15/24 10:39:18 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Being a tank is about drawing aggro and soaking damage. Nothing about him being ranged to prevents him from doing that. It just lets him poke and piss off enemies across the greater part of the battlefield.

And by endgame I would describe cloud as DPS with an emphasis on stagger and counterhit.
But if Barret is taking the agro how's he supposed to cou- you know what, it doesn't matter

I'm gonna continue with cloud being a paladin and Barret being a black mage even if he sucks at it

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Dark_Arbron
02/15/24 10:39:23 AM
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FF7 doesn't have "classes." Heck, no FF game outside of the ones with actual jobs like FF5 have "classes." That's why I dislike FF6 Advance for putting titles like "monk" on Sabin. They will never be like D&D and other proper RPGs.

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Smackems
02/15/24 10:40:27 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
FF7 doesn't have "classes." Heck, no FF game outside of the ones with actual jobs like FF5 have "classes." That's why I dislike FF6 Advance for putting titles like "monk" on Sabin.
When they created the characters though they had some shit in mind for them. Like clearly tifa is a monk and cid is a dragoon

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Blue_Target
02/15/24 10:41:03 AM
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Megaman

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s0nicfan
02/15/24 10:41:20 AM
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Smackems posted...
But if Barret is taking the agro how's he supposed to cou- you know what, it doesn't matter

I'm gonna continue with cloud being a paladin and Barret being a black mage even if he sucks at it

Cloud's counter hit abilities are mostly useful in boss battles where you don't have Barrett and/or the rest of the party. When Barrett is around drawing aggro cloud's main job is building stagger.

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Ivynn
02/15/24 10:42:03 AM
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BAMF

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Smackems
02/15/24 10:42:50 AM
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Only having one magnify is ass

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HudGard
02/15/24 11:18:36 AM
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Barret has melee weapons too

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ArsGoetia
02/15/24 11:20:58 AM
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would
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at the same time
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MaxEffingBemis
02/15/24 11:20:59 AM
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Barrett always rides my bench once I get more party members. Hes always been underwhelming to me

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Smackems
02/15/24 11:22:50 AM
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ArsGoetia posted...
would
both
at the same time
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Holy fuck that black lady is HOT

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Smackems
02/15/24 11:23:34 AM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Barrett always rides my bench once I get more party members. Hes always been underwhelming to me
Easily the best character personality wise tho

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Jaguar34
02/15/24 11:35:39 AM
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ArsGoetia posted...
would
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at the same time
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Ricemills
02/15/24 11:40:43 AM
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Smackems posted...
What kinda tank is ranged

Real tanks

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Smackems
02/15/24 11:45:06 AM
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Ricemills posted...
Real tanks
Oh.....my...god....

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pazzy
02/15/24 12:03:56 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
Barrett always rides my bench once I get more party members. Hes always been underwhelming to me
Characters in remake are actually pretty balanced, but overall cloud, Barrett, aerith is a bit more effective. You really missed out.
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Smackems
02/15/24 12:08:56 PM
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pazzy posted...
Characters in remake are actually pretty balanced, but overall cloud, Barrett, aerith is a bit more effective. You really missed out.
People always had a hard on for tifas effectiveness but it must be like a meta thing because I don't find her super useful

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DuuuDe14
02/15/24 12:13:13 PM
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Tifa is best when she can combo an enemy. If she can't stunlock them or if the enemy is hyper aggressive just use Cloud.

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ArsGoetia
02/15/24 12:13:29 PM
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Smackems posted...
Holy fuck that black lady is HOT

yeah shes stupid fine
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GranAures
02/15/24 12:23:38 PM
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Smackems posted...
What kinda tank is ranged
Bow Ancestors Barbarians.

Snipe and force enemies to come to you or have a harder time hitting anybody else.

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Holy_Cloud105
02/15/24 12:25:30 PM
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pazzy posted...
Characters in remake are actually pretty balanced, but overall cloud, Barrett, aerith is a bit more effective. You really missed out.
Cloud is worse at everything compared to everyone else. What are you talking about? Tifa is the best melee, Aerith is the best magic attacker/healer and Barret is a better tank and ranged. He's the jack of all trades master of none character.

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TMOG
02/15/24 12:27:48 PM
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Smackems posted...
But he's ranged

What kinda tank is ranged
A good one, because then he takes less damage from most attacks. You can still give him the Cover materia and he does his job great, taking hits for the entire party with his massive HP pool.

Smackems posted...
And in that case wtf is cloud supposed to be
Overpowered main character who can kind of do everything
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MaxEffingBemis
02/15/24 12:40:16 PM
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pazzy posted...
Characters in remake are actually pretty balanced, but overall cloud, Barrett, aerith is a bit more effective. You really missed out.
I was referring to OG FF7

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Venixon
02/15/24 12:45:42 PM
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He's Mr. T class

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Smackems
02/15/24 12:46:27 PM
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ArsGoetia posted...
yeah shes stupid fine
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TMOG posted...
A good one, because then he takes less damage from most attacks. You can still give him the Cover materia and he does his job great, taking hits for the entire party with his massive HP pool.

Overpowered main character who can kind of do everything
Cover? You mean in the og?

He kinda has that in remake with an ability

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Kami_no_Kami
02/15/24 12:48:27 PM
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Thief.

He stole all our hearts.
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Smackems
02/15/24 12:48:58 PM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
Thief.

He stole all our hearts.
Thief/black mage?

its a joke chill

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pazzy
02/15/24 1:00:53 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Cloud is worse at everything compared to everyone else. What are you talking about? Tifa is the best melee, Aerith is the best magic attacker/healer and Barret is a better tank and ranged. He's the jack of all trades master of none character.
Not really. Cloud is good for staggering. And counter stance . He's a bit better at handling himself against multiple enemies. Tifa is better when there's one enemy.

Most often, you're fighting multiple enemies.
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pazzy
02/15/24 1:01:18 PM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
I was referring to OG FF7
In original he's one of the best characters in the game by far.
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VampireCoyote
02/15/24 1:03:22 PM
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ARM GUN GUY bang bang bang

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s0nicfan
02/15/24 1:10:56 PM
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Holy_Cloud105 posted...
Cloud is worse at everything compared to everyone else. What are you talking about? Tifa is the best melee, Aerith is the best magic attacker/healer and Barret is a better tank and ranged. He's the jack of all trades master of none character.

The trade-off is he has the most flexibility in how you build him which is useful since the game regularly rotates out party members you can play with. Don't have barrett? Make him a tank. Don't have tifa? Make him dps. Don't have aerith? Throw all the healing stuff on him.

But his counter stance is where he really shines and completely trivializes a couple of otherwise very difficult battles once you have it, in a way that no other character would have been able to do.

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King_Rial
02/15/24 1:16:56 PM
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GranAures posted...
Bow Ancestors Barbarians.

Snipe and force enemies to come to you or have a harder time hitting anybody else.
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McMarbles
02/15/24 1:27:44 PM
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Smackems posted...
I wanted to build him out as a black mage (don't) but he just doesn't have the stats
Ranger. Except with a machine gun instead of a bow.

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vycebrand2
02/15/24 7:48:27 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
FF7 doesn't have "classes." Heck, no FF game outside of the ones with actual jobs like FF5 have "classes." That's why I dislike FF6 Advance for putting titles like "monk" on Sabin. They will never be like D&D and other proper RPGs.
His moves classify him as a monk, like celes is a rune knight, Terra a black mage. Strago blu mage..etc. There are a few classes that are in 6 only like mog and relm

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Robot2600
02/15/24 9:00:55 PM
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yes barret is a tank class in the original.

The reason he is ranged, is because the "backrow" characters take waaaay less damage in this game, so he can take advantage of that.

The first materia you find is "cover" which you are supposed to put on Barret as he's in the backrow and will use that to mitigate some of the incoming damage.

Ironically this also makes Aeris a good tank, like a paladin white mage.

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