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Smallville
02/10/24 4:29:09 PM
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.. panhandle? Yeah like they would arrest them if that was the only thing they were doing, none of the ones by me do that

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Ratchetrockon
02/10/24 4:30:28 PM
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I didn't know about that

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2Pacavelli
02/10/24 4:34:44 PM
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I hear NYC has been trying to
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willythemailboy
02/10/24 4:36:52 PM
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Technically "aggressive" panhandling is illegal in California and was temporarily banned in Illinois before a judge overturned it. Nowhere has outlawed simply sitting there with a sign but they have tried to ban panhandling when it crosses the line to harassment.

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Smallville
02/10/24 4:40:36 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
I hear NYC has been trying to
Do you think it will pass though? Do you even want it too?

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UT1999
02/10/24 7:56:56 PM
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2Pacavelli posted...
I hear NYC has been trying to
Really? Didn't hear

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NoxObscuras
02/10/24 8:03:16 PM
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Never heard of it happening. They only stop panhandlers here if they try to do it on the actual freeway ramps. Like standing on the side of the freeway exit.

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Revisited
02/10/24 8:36:59 PM
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willythemailboy posted...
Technically "aggressive" panhandling is illegal in California and was temporarily banned in Illinois before a judge overturned it. Nowhere has outlawed simply sitting there with a sign but they have tried to ban panhandling when it crosses the line to harassment.
What the... on what grounds did the judge overturn it
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willythemailboy
02/10/24 10:09:43 PM
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Revisited posted...
What the... on what grounds did the judge overturn it
First Amendment. Basically anything short of assault or stalking is free speech.

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2Pacavelli
02/10/24 11:53:15 PM
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UT1999 posted...
Really? Didn't hear

On the subway I hear announcements on how passengers should give to panhandlers and it's better to refer them to city services and I think they've said it's banned on the MTA but I can't remember if they're exactly what they said. And if they did I don't know if it's actually a legally standing ban in NYC or NYS law
Smallville posted...
Do you think it will pass though? Do you even want it too?

I don't think it will spend regardless of if it's put into law or not. People will still panhandler and those that want to give charity will still do it.

I don't think they should do it legally because it sets a bad precedent. You can't criminalize free speech plus it's better to fix the actual conditions that causes poverty and hardship then try to criminalize people asking/begging due to that hardship
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UT1999
02/11/24 7:37:43 AM
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bump

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02/11/24 8:43:02 PM
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willythemailboy posted...
First Amendment. Basically anything short of assault or stalking is free speech.
Ok how magical is this first amendment that it can protect anything from porno movies to panhandling loiterers? That is like an ocean of options.

No wonder so many people scream it in conventions and the like, chances are they really can get away with it if it's that powerful.
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GranTurismo
02/11/24 8:46:21 PM
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Ok how magical is this first amendment that it can protect anything from porno movies to panhandling loiterers? That is like an ocean of options.

No wonder so many people scream it in conventions and the like, chances are they really can get away with it if it's that powerful.
I guess. You really dislike both, panhandling and porn?
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