Current Events > The modern NBA is unwatchable.

(+) Yeah! (+)

They play no defense at all
They sit out games for load management
They would rather team up than compete
Watching them jack up 3s is boring af

NBA is pointless until the Finals

How does it feel, becoming old and jaded?

i love watching the sixers play, anybody else it's pretty awful.

also i miss marc zumoff so much :(

solosnake posted...

How does it feel, becoming old and jaded?

where is tc wrong?

they always tell on themselves. always.

As a Bulls fan, this has been the truth ever since DRose blew out his knee in the playoffs.

have you tried watching a good team

They would rather team up than compete

^That's the one that killed it for me.

i like basketball but there are too many games. the times i tried watching a lot of the games left me exhausted and enjoying basketball less. i can only manage to follow it post superbowl.

never ever gonna happen but if you slashed the games by like 50%, it would be better imo. each conference plays their conference twice, the other conference once.

i could definitely not know wtf i'm talking about and be totally wrong, though.

stats are hella inflated. shakobe lakers, the last real dynasty would run over all these modern teams

pauIie posted...

i like basketball but there are too many games. the times i tried watching a lot of the games left me exhausted and enjoying basketball less. i can only manage to follow it post superbowl.

never ever gonna happen but if you slashed the games by like 50%, it would be better imo. each conference plays their conference twice, the other conference once.

i could definitely not know wtf i'm talking about and be totally wrong, though.

i don't think you're alone there, a lot of people i know that used to follow along only watch the playoffs now cause watching a season worth of games is just way too much.

i usually have the sixers on in the background when they are on, but it's been a long time since i've actually sat and watched more than 15 games the whole way through during the season.

Wedge_Antilles posted...

They would rather team up than compete

^That's the one that killed it for me.

So the NBA killed you when Wilt Chamberlain joined the Lakers along side with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor?

BoyOfBattle posted...

stats are hella inflated. shakobe lakers, the last real dynasty would run over all these modern teams

I feel like this has to be a joke post, because Shakobe was quite literally one of the first "super teams," which is literally what modern NBA is based on.

VeggetaX posted...

So the NBA killed you when Wilt Chamberlain joined the Lakers along side with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor?

During the time when the NBA/ABA had like eight teams?

stfu

ironman2009 posted...

i don't think you're alone there, a lot of people i know that used to follow along only watch the playoffs now cause watching a season worth of games is just way too much.

i usually have the sixers on in the background when they are on, but it's been a long time since i've actually sat and watched more than 15 games the whole way through during the season.

They've been having the format for 82 games since forever ago. It's only recently that people feel there's too many games?

Also you'd hate baseball then. They have even more games in their regular season.

RONG. super team is multiple established stars teaming up. 04 super lakers, 08 celtics, lebron heatles and so on were super teams

shakobe lakers was just Shaq going to the lakers in free agency and then they also traded for rookie kobe in the draft

StealThisSheen posted...

I feel like this has to be a joke post, because Shakobe was quite literally one of the first "super teams," which is literally what modern NBA is based on.

not in the same way tho. shaq wanted to stay with orlando. and if he hasn't changed this opinion, he believed you should stay with your team forever. i think he only got traded because orlando didn't think he was worth it and was even getting dogged by newspapers and fans.

SaltyWet posted...

During the time when the NBA/ABA had like eight teams?

stfu

Alright then the NBA killed you when Charles Barkley joined the Houston Rockets along side Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler?

VeggetaX posted...

Alright then the NBA killed you when Charles Barkley joined the Houston Rockets along side Hakeem Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler?

No because Barkley was not the best or second best player of his generation.

SaltyWet posted...

No because Barkley was not the best or second best player of his generation.

Ah so then the earliest "credible" super team was when Gary Payton and Karl Malone joined the Lakers alongside Kobe and Shaq.

VeggetaX posted...

Ah so then the earliest "credible" super team was when Gary Payton and Karl Malone joined the Lakers alongside Kobe and Shaq.

LOL no. Payton and Malone were waaayyyyy past their prime.

Alrighty then I'm sure you consider Ray Allen and KG joining the Celtics alongside Paul Pierce the original starters of super teams then right?

Grinnell started their style of play back in 1989, so no it's not a modern thing. You're just getting your panties in a twist now.

VeggetaX posted...

Alrighty then I'm sure you consider Ray Allen and KG joining the Celtics alongside Paul Pierce the original starters of super teams then right?

Yes Id consider them a modern team.

ellis123 posted...

Grinnell started their style of play back in 1989, so no it's not a modern thing. You're just getting your panties in a twist now.

A lot of what TC and others are bitching about started way back then but they wanna reach far and wide to act like modern NBA started these problems.

pauIie posted...

not in the same way tho. shaq wanted to stay with orlando. and if he hasn't changed this opinion, he believed you should stay with your team forever. i think he only got traded because orlando didn't think he was worth it and was even getting dogged by newspapers and fans.

That's basically the same as Lebron wanting to win a championship for Cleveland, and ultimately coming back to do so, just with less steps. The only difference is Lebron got his wish, and he basically made it happen by taking a pay cut to return.

NHL is really fast and skilled right now with a lot of scoring and a lot of young elite players. Good time to try it if you are sick of the NBA.

Aside from last year with the super teams, the WNBA has none of these problems. Which is why I abandoned the NBA for it.

I hear role players are dropping 90 a game now over there.

StealThisSheen posted...

That's basically the same as Lebron wanting to win a championship for Cleveland, and ultimately coming back to do so, just with less steps.

not really imo. lebron back to cleveland was free agency iirc. and lebron to miami was a sign and trade at the end of a contract. which is basically you might as well trade lebron to where he wants to go or he could just not sign and leave in free agency and they'd get nothing anyway. kind of what people were talking about around the trade deadline this season. shaq didn't want to leave. lebron did. pretty different to me.

pauIie posted...

not really imo. lebron back to cleveland was free agency iirc. and lebron to miami was a sign and trade at the end of a contract. which is basically you might as well trade lebron to where he wants to go or he could just not sign and leave in free agency and they'd get nothing anyway. kind of what people were talking about around the trade deadline this season. shaq didn't want to leave. lebron did. pretty different to me.

What the player wants is entirely irrelevant vs. what happened, though. Shaq ended up being part of a super team. LeBron intentionally left a super team to try to lead a weaker team to a championship. If somebody hates the idea of "super teams," then they should hate Shakobe, regardless of how it came to be. Saying "super teams" only became a thing recently is just bias.

So I shouldnt start watching NBA games again?

Lack of defense in the modern NBA kills it for me. Will start seeing 200 point games if nothing is done.

The Knicks are entertaining to watch

StealThisSheen posted...

What the player wants is entirely irrelevant vs. what happened, though. Shaq ended up being part of a super team. LeBron intentionally left a super team to try to lead a weaker team to a championship. If somebody hates the idea of "super teams," then they should hate Shakobe, regardless of how it came to be. Saying "super teams" only became a thing recently is just bias.

i think it's relevant. because people are saying they don't like players teaming up/super teams. i view a super team as established players joining up. 2015-2016 warriors weren't a super team. kd joining made them one. wade heat wasn't a super team. lebron and bosh joining made them one. brooklyn acquiring kyrie, kd, harden, simmons? they didn't do shit, but tried being a super team.

people don't really call bulls a super team. you could, because they were the best team ever. but it's not that common from what i see.

seems like player intentions matter in that case. also kobe wasn't really kobe kobe when shaq joined. shaq got the mvp and the finals mvps when he was there.

pauIie posted...

seems like player intentions matter in that case. also kobe wasn't really kobe kobe when shaq joined. shaq got the mvp and the finals mvps when he was there.

...It's not a super team because Shaq was the better of the two for a short while? What?

This argument reeks of "It's only a super team when I don't like it."

Curry literally changed the meta lol

StealThisSheen posted...

...It's not a super team because Shaq was the better of the two for a short while? What?

This argument reeks of "It's only a super team when I don't like it."

not at all. i'm a kings fan that's still salty about 2002. there's not a single game i will root for the lakers. they're my least liked team in all of sports. and to me shaq lakers isn't a super team. for the reasons stated. the context and intention of how a team is built i think what makes a team a super team. again, it's why people don't call the bulls a super team, despite being the best team ever.

if you still disagree, then you still disagree.

Ill take todays NBA over 80s and 90s ball anyway. Back then players were to afraid to shoot the 3 and there to many games that ended in the 70s and 80s. Dennis Scott was the 1st player I know of to shoot a 3 on a fast break. Now you see it all the time.

The In-Season Tournament games were good despite the courts looking like ass

Yes, it is unwatchable.

*Squeek, squeek, squeek, slight pause, squeek squeek*

nba peaked at d rose bulls

I've never actually heard anyone refer to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers as a superteam before. Shaq joined the Lakers as their centerpiece during Kobe's rookie season. There was certainly hype surrounding Kobe, but he was still an 18-year-old rookie who only started a handful of games that season. Obviously, things worked out, and Kobe grew into one of the game's best players alongside Shaq. But when I think of "superteam," I think of cases where an established star joins a team that has other established stars. The 96-97 Lakers definitely weren't that.

As a lifelong NBA fan, you can definitely see less passion for the game among all the players.

There are no true rivalries, not enough animosity between players, and it always feels like every game in the regular season doesnt really matter.

This is why I miss the 90s and 2000s NBA

Boston garnet pierce allen rondo was the start of stacking the deck to me

You guys forget watching games from 2001-2005 where tons of final scores were like 84-80?

There's no team loyalty. All stars are bounced around from team to team every 2 years.

They also play too many games in the regular season.

ExtremeLuchador posted...

You guys forget watching games from 2001-2005 where tons of final scores were like 84-80?

so? defense is half the game of basketball just because a score is 84-80 doesnt mean it was a bad game

Routine 3 pointers are boring to watch. Give me buzzer beaters and jamming dunks that explode the backboard.

No defense means more goals for both sides and that's a good thing you selfish selfish