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Giblet_Enjoyer
02/09/24 4:48:06 PM
#251:


Darkinsanity1 posted...
Ultimately I wish evolution would hurry up and foreskin would just disappear,
Lol? We have a foreskin (just like all bodily structures) because evolution gave us it. You're as likely to lose your kneecaps to evolution as you are to lose the foreskin.

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Toonstrack
02/09/24 4:51:38 PM
#252:


If you wanna do it, do it. If you dont don't. Parents choice.

All this extra is unnecessary to me

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KI_Simpson
02/09/24 4:53:22 PM
#253:


Toonstrack posted...
If you wanna do it, do it. If you dont don't. Parents choice.

All this extra is unnecessary to me
It should be the choice of the person who has the penis, not their parents.

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kurdt032
02/09/24 5:09:12 PM
#255:


You lot don't help yourselves, do you?

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Dakimakura
02/09/24 5:09:39 PM
#256:


In TCs case it is a tiny protest.

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neccis
02/09/24 5:12:31 PM
#257:


KI_Simpson posted...
It should be the choice of the person who has the penis, not their parents.


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Toonstrack
02/09/24 7:20:55 PM
#258:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


How do you suppose they ask the baby if they want to be circumcised or not?

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DrizztLink
02/09/24 7:21:23 PM
#259:


Toonstrack posted...
How do you suppose they ask the baby if they want to be circumcised or not?
By waiting until it can answer.

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Toonstrack
02/09/24 7:25:21 PM
#260:


DrizztLink posted...
By waiting until it can answer.

After the best, least painful time to do it has passed?

So its ok with the young kid says they want to be circumcised? I actually don't find that disagreeable

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Enclave
02/09/24 7:47:00 PM
#261:


Toonstrack posted...
After the best, least painful time to do it has passed?

So its ok with the young kid says they want to be circumcised? I actually don't find that disagreeable

So the best time to permanently remove a part of a persons body is when they cannot consent to it. And the main reason to remove this part of their body is to make the childs dick more appealing to Darkinsanity1? Oh and also I suppose so the parents don't need to teach their kid how to wash their dick properly?

I'd probably argue that if it's not medically necessary? Best wait until the person can make the decision for themselves. Would most guys make the decision themselves to get circumcised? I doubt it, but I also don't see how that's a problem.

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willythemailboy
02/09/24 7:59:46 PM
#262:


Smallville posted...
Why do most of you believe the u.s. percentage is so much higher than other industrialized countries though? Had no idea the gap was that large between 2nd.
Because the US factually IS higher than other industrialized countries? Canada is just below New Zealand, and much of Europe is down in the 10-20% range.

KI_Simpson posted...
I'm pretty sure the gap is a lot smaller for children born now/recently, as opposed to total percentages of people who have penises. As mentioned earlier, there was a propaganda campaign to convince American parents to have it done over a century ago, and it became a cultural norm due to that. More liberal areas are less likely to have it done.
For recent births it's closer to 60% in the US, due in no small part to the pushback it's been getting in the last couple decades. And the growing Hispanic immigrant population, as the percentage of circumcisions in most of Latin America is in the single digits.

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majin_nemesis
02/09/24 8:02:23 PM
#263:


Toonstrack posted...
After the best, least painful time to do it has passed?

So its ok with the young kid says they want to be circumcised? I actually don't find that disagreeable
dude you can take things for the pain especially if you are doing it at a hospital with an actual doctor like you should you are probably going to feel less pain the a baby does

also unless there's a medical reason people shouldn't be circumcised at all, it's a needless surgery in most cases
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neccis
02/09/24 8:10:09 PM
#264:


Toonstrack posted...
How do you suppose they ask the baby if they want to be circumcised or not?
That's the point. Don't mutilate the child. Wait until it's 18 like everything else. Then it can decide for itself. What if the culture was to tighten up the sack by removing skin? You ok with that? You should be.
Maybe editing the eyes is more up your alley I don't know, pick whatever. It shouldn't be done.

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Toonstrack
02/09/24 8:23:50 PM
#266:


Enclave posted...
So the best time to permanently remove a part of a persons body is when they cannot consent to it.

Scientifically yeah.

And the main reason to remove this part of their body is to make the childs dick more appealing to Darkinsanity1? Oh and also I suppose so the parents don't need to teach their kid how to wash their dick properly?

Darkunsanity doesn't represent most peoples perspective on dicks. I'm not qualified to speak on that.

I'd probably argue that if it's not medically necessary? Best wait until the person can make the decision for themselves. Would most guys make the decision themselves to get circumcised? I doubt it, but I also don't see how that's a problem.

I agree

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neccis
02/09/24 8:24:37 PM
#267:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

A guy goes in for surgery to have his pancreas operated on. When he wakes up he realizes his dicks cut off.

The Dr tells the man we accidentally cut your dick off. The man turns furious and starts screaming at the Dr.
The Dr puts his hand on the man's shoulder and says ma'am I need you to calm down.

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Enclave
02/09/24 8:28:15 PM
#268:


Toonstrack posted...
Scientifically yeah.

I'd say scientifically the best time to permanently remove a part of a persons body is when it's medically necessary.

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ArsGoetia
02/09/24 8:29:30 PM
#269:


id say the best time to remove part of a persons penis is when they say
"hey doc i want part of my penis removed"
anything else is unfortunate
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Toonstrack
02/09/24 8:41:45 PM
#270:


ArsGoetia posted...
id say the best time to remove part of a persons penis is when they say
"hey doc i want part of my penis removed"
anything else is unfortunate

Or fortunate depending on their eventually partners preference

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Enclave
02/09/24 8:43:59 PM
#271:


ArsGoetia posted...
id say the best time to remove part of a persons penis is when they say
"hey doc i want part of my penis removed"
anything else is unfortunate

I'd typically consider that the 2nd best time to permanently remove a part of a persons body. I still think medically necessary removal trumps wanting it removed because they just want it removed. Note, if an adult wants to get circumcised my opinion on that is "Sure, go ahead, it's your dick."

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willythemailboy
02/09/24 8:48:54 PM
#272:


Toonstrack posted...
Or fortunate depending on their eventually partners preference
Or unfortunate if their partner would have preferred uncut.

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neccis
02/09/24 9:39:59 PM
#273:


willythemailboy posted...
Or unfortunate if their partner would have preferred uncut.lik if your wife/girlfriend is from another country
It's just bizarre to them lol

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willythemailboy
02/10/24 12:20:21 AM
#274:


neccis posted...
It's just bizarre to them lol
I once had a conversation about that with a guy who was dating an Eastern European woman. Their first time having sex she said she didn't know he was Jewish. He was utterly confused that she didn't expect him to be circumcised and she was confused that anyone would be without religious reasons.

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ArsGoetia
02/10/24 3:35:44 AM
#275:


Enclave posted...
I'd typically consider that the 2nd best time to permanently remove a part of a persons body. I still think medically necessary removal trumps wanting it removed because they just want it removed. Note, if an adult wants to get circumcised my opinion on that is "Sure, go ahead, it's your dick."

why would having a medical issue that necessitated getting part of your dick cut off be better than doing it because you want to
pretty sure aint nobody wants dick cancer

Toonstrack posted...
Or fortunate depending on their eventually partners preference
if your partner has an issue w/ your foreskin just go get it cut? lol

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sabin017
02/10/24 4:10:35 AM
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Enclave
02/10/24 6:47:49 AM
#277:


ArsGoetia posted...
why would having a medical issue that necessitated getting part of your dick cut off be better than doing it because you want to
pretty sure aint nobody wants dick cancer

Show me literally anybody who chose to get circumcised in order to reduce their odds of getting dick cancer. Remember there's no great dick cancer epidemic going on in the world.

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majin_nemesis
02/10/24 7:31:05 AM
#278:


Enclave posted...
ArsGoetia posted...

why would having a medical issue that necessitated getting part of your dick cut off be better than doing it because you want to
pretty sure aint nobody wants dick cancer

Show me literally anybody who chose to get circumcised in order to reduce their odds of getting dick cancer. Remember there's no great dick cancer epidemic going on in the world.
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ArsGoetia
02/10/24 8:39:52 AM
#279:


Enclave posted...
Show me literally anybody who chose to get circumcised in order to reduce their odds of getting dick cancer. Remember there's no great dick cancer epidemic going on in the world.

the fuck are you talking about lol

i am literally just refuting this:

Enclave posted...
I'd typically consider that the 2nd best time to permanently remove a part of a persons body. I still think medically necessary removal trumps wanting it removed because they just want it removed.


in what fuckin world is having some kind of medically necessary reason to get circumcised better than being of sound mind and under no duress and getting it done because you want to, not because you need to

pretty simple concept lol
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Enclave
02/10/24 8:53:02 AM
#280:


Any time you're removing a body part the best reason to remove it is because there's a medically necessary to. Wanting to remove a body part for cosmetic reasons is fine and all I guess if you want to do such a permanent modification to your body but it's certainly not a good reason to do it.

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ArsGoetia
02/10/24 9:21:57 AM
#281:


Enclave posted...
Any time you're removing a body part the best reason to remove it is because there's a medically necessary to. Wanting to remove a body part for cosmetic reasons is fine and all I guess if you want to do such a permanent modification to your body but it's certainly not a good reason to do it.

my wife had a medically necessary hysterectomy
now we can't have more kids and she says it makes her feel like less of a woman
it was an emergency surgery and she has PTSD about it
you think thats better than electively taking one when you choose to and are ready?

yeah no lol

oh actually heres a good one
my cousin's kid had a botched circumcision, leading them to have to redo it when he got older because it was causing him excruciating pain whenever he got an erection
that's better than being an adult and saying you want to get circumcised for cosmetic reasons? lol
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cuttin_in_farm
02/10/24 9:30:47 AM
#282:


I only read the first page, but Neon coming in with excellent arguments and even shooting down shitty sources was shockingly badass for his genre of poster.

Good stuff.

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loafy013
02/10/24 9:42:57 AM
#283:


Reading this thread, I have to say the doctor who did mine as an infant must have been the best in the world. I mean, I've gone 49 years on this planet and not once have I felt that my life had been ruined due to having no foreskin.

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NeonBoobs
02/10/24 10:36:32 AM
#284:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
I only read the first page, but Neon coming in with excellent arguments and even shooting down shitty sources was shockingly badass for his genre of poster.

Good stuff.
Thanks. I know my dicks! Plus I've unironically seen 100's of dicks in my line of work >_>

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Toonstrack
02/10/24 11:20:14 AM
#285:


loafy013 posted...
Reading this thread, I have to say the doctor who did mine as an infant must have been the best in the world. I mean, I've gone 49 years on this planet and not once have I felt that my life had been ruined due to having no foreskin.

My doctor screwed up massively giving me some wierd state in-between cut and uncut and I still have never felt any kinds way about it it just is what it is lol

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Enclave
02/10/24 11:22:03 AM
#286:


ArsGoetia posted...
my wife had a medically necessary hysterectomy
now we can't have more kids and she says it makes her feel like less of a woman
it was an emergency surgery and she has PTSD about it
you think thats better than electively taking one when you choose to and are ready?

yeah no lol

oh actually heres a good one
my cousin's kid had a botched circumcision, leading them to have to redo it when he got older because it was causing him excruciating pain whenever he got an erection
that's better than being an adult and saying you want to get circumcised for cosmetic reasons? lol

So you're saying that it would have been a better idea for your wife to have a hysterectomy back before it was medically necessary? Because if not I don't get why you have a problem with what I'm saying.

I'm thinking you are the one who isn't getting the point I'm making, especially with your bringing up your cousins botched circumcision.

I'm saying don't fucking remove parts of peoples bodies unless it's medically necessary. If somebody wants to modify their own body for cosmetic reasons? I'd argue they can but I wouldn't call it a good idea. Medically necessary procedures though? Yeah, it's a good idea to get a medically necessary procedure done to yourself.

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ArsGoetia
02/10/24 11:24:42 AM
#287:


i dont know why
"i think its unfortunate to have a condition that requires medical treatment" is a hard concept to grasp

and your hang up about cosmetic procedures is super fuckin weird bro
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Enclave
02/10/24 11:26:40 AM
#288:


ArsGoetia posted...
i dont know why
"i think its unfortunate to have a condition that requires medical treatment" is a hard concept to grasp

and your hang up about cosmetic procedures is super fuckin weird bro

Confirmed you don't get my point.

I'm not saying it's great that somebody needs to get a medically necessary thing done to them, I'm saying if you need to get a hysterectomy in order to save your life then it's a good idea to get a fucking hysterectomy.

Meanwhile if somebody wants to get a hysterectomy in order to lose a couple pounds I'd argue that's probably not a great fucking idea.

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NeonBoobs
02/10/24 11:33:42 AM
#290:


Toonstrack posted...
How do you suppose they ask the baby if they want to be circumcised or not?
When that baby sees that ugly foreskin, and gives you a thumbs down like Emperor Commodus from Gladiator, you know it's cutting time.

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ArsGoetia
02/10/24 11:36:51 AM
#291:


Enclave posted...
Confirmed you don't get my point.

I'm not saying it's great that somebody needs to get a medically necessary thing done to them, I'm saying if you need to get a hysterectomy in order to save your life then it's a good idea to get a fucking hysterectomy.

Meanwhile if somebody wants to get a hysterectomy in order to lose a couple pounds I'd argue that's probably not a great fucking idea.

uhh yeah because thats why people get elective hysterectomies, sure
weight loss
lmao

yes people should get medically necessary procedures done. who would argue that they shouldn't?

if someone chooses to because they want to, why is that not the best outcome? (assuming the procedure is done in any scenario)

like why would you rather someone need a circumcision because of a medical issue than choosing to because they want to?

again
you have a weird af take on cosmetic procedures

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Zwijn
02/10/24 11:38:07 AM
#292:


This is just something that the majority of countries wont agree on with the ones that do. Its a huge cultural gap.
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hockeybabe89
02/10/24 11:38:27 AM
#293:


"I was a baby so I don't remember it and won't miss the foreskin" is such a stupid fucking argument.

What other largely pointless things should we do to babies just because they can't resist and won't remember trauma or embarrassment?

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Zwijn
02/10/24 11:39:30 AM
#294:


hockeybabe89 posted...
"I was a baby so I don't remember it and won't miss the foreskin" is such a stupid fucking argument.

What other largely pointless things should we do to babies just because they can't resist and won't remember trauma or embarrassment?
Baptism
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Toonstrack
02/10/24 11:40:11 AM
#295:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I never like getting into this because the entire birthing process can virtually be construed as a violation of consent if you push it far enough. Some have tried to say having kids at all is imposing life onto someone without consent.

Thats not a position I agree with at all, but I've seen it.

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Enclave
02/10/24 11:48:18 AM
#296:


ArsGoetia posted...
uhh yeah because thats why people get elective hysterectomies, sure
weight loss
lmao

yes people should get medically necessary procedures done. who would argue that they shouldn't?

if someone chooses to because they want to, why is that not the best outcome? (assuming the procedure is done in any scenario)

like why would you rather someone need a circumcision because of a medical issue than choosing to because they want to?

again
you have a weird af take on cosmetic procedures

Okay, if you still don't get it after this I'm just going to block you because this is getting insane.

I'm of the opinion that it's almost never a good idea to make permanent modifications to a persons body unless you actually need to, because it's medically necessary. If it is medically necessary then it's a good idea to remove that body part because the alternative presumably is a whole lot worse, such as dying.

If somebody wants a cosmetic procedure done to them that doesn't suddenly mean it's a good idea to actually do it, there's plenty of negative outcomes that can and do come from things like cosmetic surgery (such as what happened to your cousin with their botched circumcision). Just because a person wants a procedure done doesn't mean it's a good idea. Now sure, say somebody has a disfigurement you can make the argument that it would be a sufficient improvement to their quality of life to justify the risks but that's a minority of cosmetic surgeries that are done.

So, do you understand my fucking plain and obvious point or should I just block you to save me from seeing your inability to understand a basic point I'm making?

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ArsGoetia
02/10/24 11:59:12 AM
#297:


the only thing plain and obvious is that you have an incredibly weird view about cosmetic procedures and seemingly know fuck all about them lol
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hockeybabe89
02/10/24 12:36:50 PM
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I heard a guy was considering circumcision, but the doctors just weren't cutting it.

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Zelduh
02/10/24 1:15:55 PM
#300:


We should remove eyelids at birth, blinking insults my God because it implies you're not looking at God and trying to avoid him and also eyelids are filthy and get gunk and make the eyeball unclean and also I like how it looks and my dad had his eyelids removed and he got all the ladies and my mom thought it was hot
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