Board 8 > The Simpsons Mafia redemption game Topic 1. Poor Troy McClure!

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Im not answering that one. Not giving scum free information.

ulti Im not pressing for the answer here because I know you wont give it but whats your actual cost-benefit here

you dont want to give scum info but you effectively went and told them hey if theres a scum scanner or watcher and you could use it on me, now you dont have to!

youre more likely to screw up a scum scan by shutting up (town has more targets to whiff on) and now scum wont waste a shot or a scan on your completely useless role

so whats the actual town equity here

Probably everyone who claimed immediately is fine, like every other game

Ulti is fine and will not be lynched at all this game.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Ulti is fine and will not be lynched at all this game.

Elaborate please.

Chaeix posted...

ulti Im not pressing for the answer here because I know you wont give it but whats your actual cost-benefit here

you dont want to give scum info but you effectively went and told them hey if theres a scum scanner or watcher and you could use it on me, now you dont have to!

youre more likely to screw up a scum scan by shutting up (town has more targets to whiff on) and now scum wont waste a shot or a scan on your completely useless role

so whats the actual town equity here

Town ulti cares a ton about not being lynched

wallmasterz posted...

Elaborate please.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/38e219be.jpg

Image transcription: a bald yellow man driving a car shouting out the window saying "I want everyone to know that...this is Ned Flanders, my friend! ("The Simpsons", S05E16, March 17, 1994).

wallmasterz posted...

Town ulti cares a ton about not being lynched

I mean yes but that wasnt really part of the discussion

Enchantress posted...

Image transcription: a bald yellow man driving a car shouting out the window saying "I want everyone to know that...this is Ned Flanders, my friend! ("The Simpsons", S05E16, March 17, 1994).

Okay the transcription is hilarious.

Chaeix posted...

I mean yes but that wasnt really part of the discussion

Thats fair. I think Ulti should answer this before n1. If Ulti is scum hed want to keep his options open here.

wallmasterz posted...

Elaborate please.

There is nothing to elaborate on, Ulti is town so he shall not be lynched.

Ulti, how would it benefit scum to know if you are required move with a useless ability or not?

Id say withholding this info hurts town more than it helps scum at this point

IfGodCouldDie posted...

There is nothing to elaborate on, Ulti is town so he shall not be lynched.

Ah give me a break. Im not calling for Ultis head here. Its fair for me to ask you to elaborate even slightly how you can be so sure of that. Even if Im not happy with the explanation.

We were just scum together too and Im skeptical of you

htaeD posted...

Btw Sbell, what were you worried would happen if a flavorcop did scan you, if you were already assuming scum was not family guy?

I don't recall ever saying I had worry.

If ultis role is useless and voluntary then why even bother saying something.

If you have to move and theres zero town equity to your movement that feels like something youd want town to know about

Obellisk posted...

If ultis role is useless and voluntary then why even bother saying something.

this

wallmasterz posted...

Thats fair. I think Ulti should answer this before n1. If Ulti is scum hed want to keep his options open here.

wallmasterz posted...

If you have to move and theres zero town equity to your movement that feels like something youd want town to know about

why are you supporting my question and then answering it yourself

wallmasterz posted...

If you have to move and theres zero town equity to your movement that feels like something youd want town to know about

that would be involuntary

Chaeix posted...

this

why are you supporting my question and then answering it yourself

your question as I understand it is what is the value of not telling whether you can choose to move or not

i am adding to that saying telling should be a no brainer

Obellisk posted...

I don't recall ever saying I had worry.

You didnt use the word, but it did come across that way

I'm peter griffin in a simpsons game.

if I was flavor scanned one would say, HEEEEEEEEYYYYY, THATS NOT SIMPSONS.

milleresque.

Let me rephrase it then anyway.
What did you think would be the worst outcome of being flavor scanned?

wallmasterz posted...

your question as I understand it is what is the value of not telling whether you can choose to move or not

i am adding to that saying telling should be a no brainer

did

did you read my post

Also I didnt want to say it out loud because I wanted to see if Ulti would still try to claim 'he did not have to move'

But Sbell is correct. Ulti wouldnt (or at least shouldnt) claim if his action was voluntary.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e53b33d5.jpg

I am starting to see why the images are hated.

htaeD posted...

I am starting to see why the images are hated.

Sorry Death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNx-ty6SaqQ

UltimaterializerX posted...

100% scum wants to know if I can move.

Town is free to waste scans on me to prove me town but youre better off actually finding scum.

See you night 1!

theres no town benefit to you sharing but correspondingly why would scum care when youve already fully claimed

Scum might be all, what if Ulti is actually lying scanner or protection

Enchantress posted...

Scum might be all, what if Ulti is actually lying scanner or protection

better track him then, thatll clear things up

Chaeix posted...

did

did you read my post

Yes. I already had but I see where you feel like I missed the point a bit.

Is it normal for Lopen to excuse himself from day 1s festivities

I know Corrik typically does but dont recall seeing it from Lopen

I know Lopen said that, but then he came back immediately with game relevant memes

Since people hate images I'll translate mine

FD pinged me because he was lamenting not being able to post images when I found out how to do it in 1 minute (then wasted 10 finding images I wanted) by googling "Simpsons meme generator"

Ulti pinged me because his role is a huge pile of worthless-- but more importantly because he thought it was millerlike and MUST post it.

I'm not sure if those are even my suspects now. I think you've got two ways to digest today. Is Ulti town or is Ulti scum. I'm getting slightly different suspects going each way.

FD had tried nothing and he was all out of ideas

UltimaterializerX posted...

. I visit people, and try talking to them, but they dont receive any PMs. Something something no one likes me or cares I exist.

I was mistaken. Ulti didn't clarify if his role was voluntary. If he was voluntary then no reason to claim. So by claiming this role obviously its an involuntary action.

frivolous ramblings about only scum caring about movement is just an odd direction to take the claim.

I think memes are a good scum hunting tool. In particular

htaeD posted...

I am starting to see why the images are hated.

Death starting the game with a meme image and then going to this is a bit weird to me.

It's weird to me too because the one that broke his will was a pure quote without original game thoughts. And one that I post every game when people go into the weeds, it's simply too good.

I'm think I'm going with Ulti being town here.

First thought says I think we should lynch Death JC or Peter Griffin at the moment.

Lopen posted...

I think memes are a good scum hunting tool. In particular

Death starting the game with a meme image and then going to this is a bit weird to me.

Eh I started the game with a meme image was because I felt left out, but at the same time I wanted to express hope that we wouldnt keep doing it after page1
So I combined the two ideas.
My funny bone could not be contained.

I wasnt even upset with Enchantress, dont get me wrong.
Just noticed how different a page1 meme image felt compared to a page3 meme image.

Enchantress posted...

It's weird to me too because the one that broke his will was a pure quote without original game thoughts. And one that I post every game when people go into the weeds, it's simply too good.

Wait? It is?
I am sorry but I dont remember that at all.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Is this really coming from someone who claimed "under miller logic" for Ned Flanders? Who actually scans innocent?

Have you even clarified if you're FORCED to act at night or not?

I'll throw FD in there too with this soft defense on sbell +

Sbell
Death
JC
FD

Lock it in. Just gotta find one more and we win.

Soft defense on sbell + fake meme generator frustration

based on facts alone, Lopen? or have I presented myself in an un-favorable manner?

Chaeix posted...

did ulti just claim optional tracker miller

amazing

This here is a scum reaction to the claim btw

Also "being lazy" about the image thing

I don't feel you claim Peter Griffin as town there with "miller logic" it feels like you're stretching too hard to justify claiming

Obellisk posted...

Not that I think the scum team is going to correspond with my character.

You immediately say this

How on earth is it a flavor miller

I'm not a simpsons character in a simpsons game. Felt like it was necessary to drop that early. feels out of place and milleresque. With no flavor split knowledge, a flavor scan by town of me would imply fishy business and a potential bad lynch.

I don't fake first post claims like a lot of this community however you love to attack me when I do.

Your distrust is sadly your problem and not mine.

It's not that you claimed first post it was your rationale in doing so.

I don't think scum Sbell is likely to immediately go hard on claiming a weirdo flavour. His soul is broken by mzero giving him the "scum every game" curse via DTD.

Lynch him for his flavour's offensive aesthetic violation imo

Lopen posted...

This here is a scum reaction to the claim btw

Also "being lazy" about the image thing

oh boy i get to be the first target of lopen picking things and arbitrarily calling them scum

i don't think it's ever happened before

this is clearly a scum reaction too