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itachi15243
11/13/23 3:07:19 PM
#101:


Man this is so fucked up.

These Republican assholes should be removed and barred from office or even jailed for this shit.

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TyVulpine
11/13/23 3:08:49 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
You underestimate what the GOP does. Ron DeSantis had a woman arrested because she exposed him for lying about Floridas Covid rates.
And had Beto thrown out of the press conference after the Uvalde mass shooting when he asked why they keep allowing these shootings, and why children keep getting shot.

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CyborgSage00x0
11/13/23 5:46:24 PM
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Time to put this in front of the state Supreme Court.

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DepreceV2
11/13/23 5:50:36 PM
#104:


Block_that_Kick posted...
The amendments language is dangerously vague and unconstrained, and can be weaponized to attack parental rights or defend rapists, pedophiles, and human traffickers.

I dont know anything about whats going on. I need to look into it. However, when I read shit like this, I guarantee its compete bullshit that the Republican Party is trying to spin to provoke outrage. In fact, I can make a pretty save bet that there is probably no real issue with it.

Like I said, I need to look into it but outrage bait like this typically means its a nothing burger

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A_Good_Boy
11/13/23 5:55:31 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
I dont know anything about whats going on. I need to look into it. However, when I read shit like this, I guarantee its compete bullshit that the Republican Party is trying to spin to provoke outrage. In fact, I can make a pretty save bet that there is probably no real issue with it.

Like I said, I need to look into it but outrage bait like this typically means its a nothing burger
Of course not. Issues can't even make it onto a ballot without substantial review first. There's no way for a constitutional amendment to make it through the ballot process, get voted on, and only then does a single GOP politician notice that it's "vague".

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ScazarMeltex
11/13/23 6:31:12 PM
#106:


TyVulpine posted...
The Federal government has no jurisdiction over what is an internal state matter.
And the GOP really doesn't have any right to pull what they are doing here. Once one side decides that rules no longer apply it is foolish for the other side to continue to abide by them.

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CyborgSage00x0
11/13/23 6:48:54 PM
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The legislature trying to not have this actually go into affect/strip the judiciary from enforcing it is certainly a thing that needs to hammer out.

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A_Good_Boy
11/13/23 6:50:48 PM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
The legislature trying to not have this actually go into affect/strip the judiciary from enforcing it is certainly a thing that needs to hammer out.
The Ohio GOP needs to actually act on these threats and have someone sue them for it first. Butthurt politicians whining on the internet isn't ever going to earn a judicial response.

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bfslick50
11/13/23 7:42:36 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
https://twitter.com/AndrewJTobias/status/1724087749664210989

Quick, where are all those people that talk about dangerous precedents whenever Dems try to make a minor rule change?

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streamofthesky
11/13/23 10:19:49 PM
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https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1326162254891536385?lang=en
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darkace77450
11/14/23 1:31:55 PM
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https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/rep-bob-good-says-the-gop-must-be-even-more-extreme-on-the-issue-of-abortion-in-the-wake-of-election-losses/

We are right on every issue; the Democrats are wrong on every issue, Good proclaimed. Thats why they frantically cling to abortion as the only issue that they think may work for them, and in some cases it has demonstrated that it does.

Part of the problem is that we surrender and we default to the media narrative, the lefts narrative that this is a loser for us, he continued. We need to be unflinchingly, unapologetically pro-life. I think when you have moderation, you have tepid, vanilla, benign statements on the issue of lifeif youre trying to talk about 15-week bans that only effect less than 10 percent of abortionsI think what that does is that demotivates our base. Its not inspirational. It suppresses turnout in red states, and it leads to us losing elections.

We need to be bold and aggressive and paint with bright red colors on this issue, Good said.
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MatzoTov
11/14/23 1:40:22 PM
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Anyone have a link to the issue 1 text in question?

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Lillymon
11/14/23 1:50:39 PM
#116:


I can just quote the whole thing here:

Article I, Section 22. The Right to Reproductive Freedom with Protections for Health and Safety

A. Every individual has a right to make and carry out ones own reproductive decisions, including but not limited to decisions on:

1. contraception;

2. fertility treatment;

3. continuing ones own pregnancy;

4. miscarriage care; and

5. abortion.

B. The State shall not, directly or indirectly, burden, penalize, prohibit, interfere with, or discriminate against either:

1. An individual's voluntary exercise of this right or

2. A person or entity that assists an individual exercising this right,

unless the State demonstrates that it is using the least restrictive means to advance the individual's health in accordance with widely accepted and evidence-based standards of care.

However, abortion may be prohibited after fetal viability. But in no case may such an abortion be prohibited if in the professional judgment of the pregnant patients treating physician it is necessary to protect the pregnant patients life or health.

C. As used in this Section:

1. Fetal viability means the point in a pregnancy when, in the professional judgment of the pregnant patient's treating physician, the fetus has a significant likelihood of survival outside the uterus with reasonable measures. This is determined on a case-by-case basis.

2. State includes any governmental entity and any political subdivision.

D. This Section is self-executing.

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