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WilliamPorygon 11/06/23 12:19:03 PM #1: |
TRENTON, N.J.Today, a group of New Jersey parents teamed up with the Institute for Justice (IJ) to file a federal lawsuit challenging New Jerseys practice of keeping blood samples taken from newborn babies for 23 years, all without parents knowledge or consent. Not only does New Jersey hold onto the blood, it can use the blood samples in any manner it chooses. https://ij.org/press-release/new-jersey-parents-file-federal-class-action-lawsuit-challenging-states-secret-retention-of-newborn-blood-for-23-years/ --- Dolphins are people too! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 11/06/23 12:21:36 PM #2: |
"The only way parents could learn about such retention is by proactively looking it up on one of the third-party websites listed on the bottom of the card theyre given after the blood draw" Am I off base for thinking this is just a case of RTFM? But I suppose law should be made clearer wherever it can. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crimson_Corsair 11/06/23 12:23:13 PM #3: |
Somebody explain to me why I should care about this. Like... what nefarious things should I be worried about people doing with a few drops of my child's blood? Or mine for that matter. And how does that affect me?
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Guide 11/06/23 12:24:11 PM #4: |
Crimson_Corsair posted...
Somebody explain to me why I should care about this. Like... what nefarious things should I be worried about people doing with a few drops of my child's blood? Or mine for that matter. And how does that affect me? Potential DNA tracking is kinda spooky. Potential SUPER CLONES is very unlikely but kinda spooky. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 11/06/23 12:31:31 PM #5: |
Crimson_Corsair posted...
Somebody explain to me why I should care about this. Like... what nefarious things should I be worried about people doing with a few drops of my child's blood? Or mine for that matter. And how does that affect me?Nothing worth writing home about. If they win this the next step will be to prevent the state from taking any blood at all to check for diseases. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 11/06/23 12:42:30 PM #6: |
Guide posted...
Potential DNA tracking is kinda spooky. Potential SUPER CLONES is very unlikely but kinda spooky.Why would someone track your DNA when it would be so much easier, cheaper and faster to just track your cellphone? --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 11/06/23 12:44:59 PM #7: |
Also looked up what IJ actually is, unsurprisingly, its a libertarian institution.
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TheGoldenEel 11/06/23 12:48:43 PM #8: |
Crimson_Corsair posted...
Somebody explain to me why I should care about this. Like... what nefarious things should I be worried about people doing with a few drops of my child's blood? Or mine for that matter. And how does that affect me?I mean, this seems kinda fucky And, once the state has the blood, it can use it however it wishes, including selling it to third parties, giving it to police without a warrant, or even selling it to the Pentagon to create a registryas previously happened in Texas. --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonTentacles 11/06/23 12:53:11 PM #9: |
What are they gonna do with it? Create Big Boss clones or something? lol
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WalkingPlague 11/06/23 12:53:43 PM #10: |
they're giving it all to tom cruise.
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Jiek_Fafn 11/06/23 12:57:00 PM #11: |
Yeah, idk why they would want it as it seems like a nightmare to keep all that. Maybe it's too much work to properly dispose of it?
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Notti 11/06/23 1:02:07 PM #12: |
I knew it! Chris Christie is a gluttonous vampire!
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ThePieReborn 11/06/23 1:04:46 PM #13: |
Yeah, if that can be retrieved/sent without a warrant, I would have some issues with that.
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Nemu 11/06/23 1:06:58 PM #14: |
It's one of those things that's relatively minor in a bubble, but giving the government too much freedom with our personal data without consent is definitely nothing that should just be accepted. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 11/06/23 1:08:17 PM #15: |
The issue with DNA tracking is that insurance companies will obtain it and use the information to deny or charge more to potential customers based on their risk factors. Its very likely already happening to people stupid enough to use services like Ancestry.com and 23andme (not to mention their poor family members who are also being indirectly tracked due to being a relative of the idiots.) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 11/06/23 1:10:40 PM #16: |
The government should not have my DNA on file if I have not been convicted of a crime
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Tanthalas 11/06/23 1:23:07 PM #17: |
Doe posted...
The government should not have my DNA on file if I have not been convicted of a crimeWhat if you die in an explosion and they need your DNA to identify you from pieces of tissue splattered on the ground or walls? --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mystic_belmont 11/06/23 1:26:23 PM #18: |
Crimson_Corsair posted...
Somebody explain to me why I should care about this. People profiting off your DNA while you receive no compensation? --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 11/06/23 1:30:15 PM #19: |
Tanthalas posted... What if you die in an explosion and they need your DNA to identify you from pieces of tissue splattered on the ground or walls? what a ridiculous hypothetical ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 11/06/23 1:33:56 PM #20: |
Tanthalas posted...
What if you die in an explosion and they need your DNA to identify you from pieces of tissue splattered on the ground or walls?Tough shit. I'm MIA with a giant asterisk that I was last seen next to the giant explosion. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Seaman_Prime 11/06/23 1:36:10 PM #21: |
Just another vampire scheme. Their masquerade is falling apart ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 11/06/23 1:56:13 PM #22: |
Tanthalas posted...
Why would someone track your DNA when it would be so much easier, cheaper and faster to just track your cellphone? For non-cellphone situations? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 11/06/23 2:35:55 PM #23: |
AnsestralRecall posted...
The issue with DNA tracking is that insurance companies will obtain it and use the information to deny or charge more to potential customers based on their risk factors.Maybe our libertarian friends can fight for affordable health care so medical insurance wouldn't be necessary, but if I'm not mistaken they're on the "got mine fuck yours" side of the political aisle. AnsestralRecall posted... what a ridiculous hypotheticalNot exactly impossible you know, but if you prefer a more reasonable argument, these blood samples could be used for research to help fight genetic diseases. Instead we have fear-mongers and bad faith actors trying to get them destroyed. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 11/06/23 2:36:54 PM #24: |
Guide posted...
Are what exactly are these non-cellphone situations? --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 11/06/23 2:40:22 PM #25: |
Tanthalas posted...
Are what exactly are these non-cellphone situations? The situations where you don't have a cellphone...? --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 11/06/23 3:10:24 PM #26: |
Guide posted...
The situations where you don't have a cellphone...?/rollseyes --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LearntoRead 11/06/23 3:19:44 PM #27: |
Darnit, I thought I was missing some of my blood. Darn government, taking my blood a life time ago. That's right, I'm from New Jersey. I'm not proud of it, but if you ask me that in public I have to act like your state is the one that sucks. Of course, I do live in the bad part of NJ. How bad? It's a place where Floridians go on vacation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 11/06/23 3:50:40 PM #28: |
Tanthalas posted... Maybe our libertarian friends can fight for affordable health care so medical insurance wouldn't be necessary, but if I'm not mistaken they're on the "got mine fuck yours" side of the political aisle. Until we are in a situation where the people aren't likely to get fucked by this (literally not fear mongering considering 23andme have been found to be selling their clients data) it's imperative to oppose shit like this. Fix the healthcare pay to live system, then explicitly consensual gathering is fine. Nothing should ever be taken with manufactured consent (which having a small text line at the bottom of some sheet of paper very much is.) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 11/06/23 5:59:23 PM #29: |
Tanthalas posted...
/rollseyes Not everyone has cellphones literally all the time, don't be silly. --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tanthalas 11/06/23 6:54:12 PM #30: |
AnsestralRecall posted...
Until we are in a situation where the people aren't likely to get fucked by this (literally not fear mongering considering 23andme have been found to be selling their clients data) it's imperative to oppose shit like this.So again, lets get rid of valuable resources that could actually help people just to appease fearmongering bullshit and libertarian assholes, the same assholes that wont lift a finger to actually help people get affordable healthcare. Guide posted... Not everyone has cellphones literally all the time, don't be silly./rolleyes --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AnsestralRecall 11/06/23 9:15:58 PM #31: |
Tanthalas posted... So again, lets get rid of valuable resources that could actually help people just to appease fearmongering bullshit and libertarian assholes, the same assholes that wont lift a finger to actually help people get affordable healthcare. its a liability far more than it is a valuable resource until we eliminate the misuse that is ALREADY OCCURRING with our genetic information its not to appease any libertarians, its because ITS LITERALLY HAPPENING ... Copied to Clipboard!
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