Current Events > the US constitution is wack as fuck

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it's been like 800 years, ya'll need constitutional reform lmao

The Swedish ones are older, shut the fuck up.

Isnt that a stat in D&D

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It's one of the most brilliant and unique documents ever written

It was written by incredibly powerful men who were forming and incredibly powerful government who were shit scared about the government becoming TOO powerful in the future and so constantly checked themselves.

That's almost unheard of.

The constitution was their second try, after the first one fell apart within a decade. Then they designed a method for electing presidents was so bad it had to be scrapped after the first competitive election.

But at least it made it 70 years before the tensions inherent in the country they produced resulted in a civil war.

It's bullshit to blame the civil war on the Constitution.

And not on the South wanting to expand slavery for economic gain.

Did they not know about the South when making the Constitution?

UnfairRepresent posted...

It's bullshit to blame the civil war on the Constitution.

And not on the South wanting to expand slavery for economic gain.

No, the country should have never been created if slavery was going to be included.

rynobot posted...

No, the country should have never been created if slavery was going to be included.

That's a nice sentiment but the reality is that no country would have ever been created if slavery wasn't included. The entire southern economy was literally predicated on it.

But regardless the point remains that the Confederates opposed the Constitution, created their own and wanted to expand slavery.

Blaming the Constitution for the war is kinda crazy.

Almost every other civilized country has re-written their constitution. Nope, not US

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Your one active post is disparaging the US.

Is this a Chinese bot? Or Russian?
And did you at least buy that account, or hack it yourself?

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There's no process to reforming the US Constitution? Amendments don't exist?

UnfairRepresent posted...

That's a nice sentiment but the reality is that no country would have ever been created if slavery wasn't included. The entire southern economy was literally predicated on it.

Yep.

Never mind the fact that every European crown that shaped the creation of the United States (namely, Britain, France, and Spain) was still adherent to the slave trade at the time the US Constitution was ratified. Abolitionism was just beginning to become a coherent, pan-national movement around the time that the current Constitution was drafted and it would be a couple of decades more before various circumstances (rebellions/wars) forced those nations to abolish the practice, and decades more still until they began to actually enforce it universally on their territories.

Euripides posted...

Almost every other civilized country has re-written their constitution. Nope, not US

Just goes to show how heavily flawed theirs were compared to ours.

Prismsblade posted...

Just goes to show how heavily flawed theirs were compared to ours.

Your American exceptionalism is showing.

Your constitution needs to rewrite at the very least that thing about a well regulated militia and the use of incarcerated people as slave labour.

And on that note, maybe make your justice system a little less fascist.

Euripides posted...

Almost every other civilized country has re-written their constitution. Nope, not US

Not quite rewritten but we did amend the Constitution a lot. At least until the 1970's. With how batshit Republicans became, probably never happening again in our lifetimes.

We did reform it.
William Henry Harrison's death called attention to an ambiguity in Article II, Section 1, Clause 6 of the Constitution regarding succession to the presidency. The Constitution clearly provided for the vice president to take over the "Powers and Duties of the said Office" in the event of a president's removal, death, resignation, or inability, but it was unclear whether the vice president formally became president of the United States, or simply temporarily assumed the powers and duties of that office, in a case of succession. It was decided that if Harrison's Vice President, John Tyler took the presidential oath of office, he would assume the office of president. Tyler became president for the remainder of Harrison's term. It was written into the Constitution in 1967 through Section One of the Twenty-fifth Amendment.

A reform for... one line.
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Dark_Arbron posted...

Your American exceptionalism is showing.

Your constitution needs to rewrite at the very least that thing about a well regulated militia and the use of incarcerated people as slave labour.

And on that note, maybe make your justice system a little less fascist.

and make health care more affordable while you are at it

UnfairRepresent posted...

constantly checked themselves.

truly the embodiment of check yourself before you wreck yourself