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Zithers
11/02/23 3:27:18 AM
#1:


got some cool free agents right

cody bellinger
matt chapman
rhys hoskins
jeimer candelario
jung hoo lee
jorge soler
jd martinez
brandon belt
tommy pham
joey gallo
joc pederson
kevin kiermeier
harrison bader
mark canha
michael a taylor
mitch garver
gary sanchez
jason heyward
garrett cooper
cj cron
michael brantley

this is actually a super weak lineup for hitters lol. pitchers looking better

blake snell
yoshi yamamoto
sonny gray
clayton kershaw
jordan montgomery
aaron nola
marcus stroman
shoto imanaga
charlie morton
lucas giolito
kenta maeda
eduardo rodriguez maybe, he has an opt out
alex wood
michael lorenzen
seth lugo
wade miley
josh hader
craig kimbrel
aroldis chapman

and of course get you a man who can do both (in 2025)

shohei motherfuckin ohtani

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11/02/23 3:47:48 AM
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Announce Ohtani to the Giants

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Zithers
11/02/23 3:51:29 AM
#3:


Butterfiles posted...
Announce Ohtani to the Giants

the giants and dodgers are the only teams i see him signing with. dodgers seemed to be cutting payroll last offseason specifically to get ready for this. giants whiffed on judge and correa so they want to make a big splash and the gm is obviously on the hot seat.

maybe the mets? even though they are in a soft rebuild. don't see yankees, phillies, or padres (esp with this new being poor story dropping) doing it since they all have too many huge deals on the books already and i don't think their owners will be cool with cohen-esque luxury tax penalties.

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Zithers
11/02/23 2:50:09 PM
#4:


nelson cruz has decided to retire. wasnt too hot lately so not unexpected. however he does retire with 399 homers which stings a little.

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Zithers
11/02/23 4:06:51 PM
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Zithers posted...
nelson cruz has decided to retire. wasnt too hot lately so not unexpected. however he does retire with 399 homers which stings a little.

399 homers after he turned 30*

read the tweet wrong lol. retiring with 464 dingers :o

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Shotgunnova
11/02/23 4:08:36 PM
#6:


I kinda want Wade Miley to go back to Cincy, lol.

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GeneralKenobi85
11/02/23 4:28:32 PM
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Zithers posted...
the giants and dodgers are the only teams i see him signing with. dodgers seemed to be cutting payroll last offseason specifically to get ready for this. giants whiffed on judge and correa so they want to make a big splash and the gm is obviously on the hot seat.

maybe the mets? even though they are in a soft rebuild. don't see yankees, phillies, or padres (esp with this new being poor story dropping) doing it since they all have too many huge deals on the books already and i don't think their owners will be cool with cohen-esque luxury tax penalties.
Like you, I've always thought it was going to be the Dodgers. Your reasoning for the Giants makes sense too.

I do think the Mets will make Ohtani an offer because they'd be crazy not to. But I think, like many teams, Yamamoto is going to be the guy they really, really want. And if the Mets want him as badly as I think, it will be tough to match them.

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Zithers
11/02/23 4:59:03 PM
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bp's prospect writer said he's heard that the giants will be going hard on yamamoto too

imagine if the mets have senga, ohtani, and yoshi all together. npb ballers.

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GeneralKenobi85
11/02/23 5:02:42 PM
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Zithers posted...
bp's prospect writer said he's heard that the giants will be going hard on yamamoto too

imagine if the mets have senga, ohtani, and yoshi all together. npb ballers.
I'm all for it. I'm a Yankees fan, but I follow the Mets just as much, and I've been to Citi Field more times than I've been to old and new Yankee Stadium combined.

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Zithers
11/02/23 5:32:18 PM
#10:


GeneralKenobi85 posted...
I'm all for it. I'm a Yankees fan, but I follow the Mets just as much, and I've been to Citi Field more times than I've been to old and new Yankee Stadium combined.

do you live in nyc? if so do you know anyone looking for an apartment/roommate..............

also seeing our first signings of the offseason. or extensions rather

joe jimenez 3/26 to stay with the braves
max muncy 2/24 to stay with the dodgers with a 10m club option for '26

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GeneralKenobi85
11/02/23 6:17:12 PM
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Nah, don't live in NYC. Just nearby in NJ.

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Zithers
11/03/23 3:53:31 PM
#12:


clayton kershaw getting arm surgery and hoping to be back at some time during the summer

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Zithers
11/03/23 10:55:23 PM
#13:


cody bellinger, jorge soler, and justin turner all officially opted out of their contracts and will be free agents

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Zithers
11/04/23 2:14:53 PM
#14:


tim anderson and joey votto had their options declined and will become free agents.

brewers traded mark canha to detroit for a reliever prospect. detroit will pick up canha's option.

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Shotgunnova
11/04/23 2:32:22 PM
#15:


I hope the Canha trade works out.

Wonder what Joey's going to do. Kinda hoped he'd be a Red 4 Lyfe guy.

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Zithers
11/04/23 2:45:47 PM
#16:


canha seems like obvious trade deadline bait.

votto being thrown out of his last game was shitty. i don't really see a path forward for him though. a league average hitting 1B/DH isn't going to help a whole lot of contending teams.

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Shotgunnova
11/04/23 2:58:50 PM
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Maybe if he doesn't get picked up by someone else, he'll get a courtesy deal for Cincy and he can do a proper farewell tour.


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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
11/04/23 3:00:05 PM
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I'm curious what the Jays do with Manoah. Sounds like he had some outright insubordination by refusing to go to AAA. Dude, you were fucked last season, just go work our shit.

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Shotgunnova
11/04/23 3:27:50 PM
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Wouldn't be surprised if he started the year in low-A ball.

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Zithers
11/04/23 4:14:44 PM
#20:


stroman also officially opts out

Jeff_AKA_Snoopy posted...
I'm curious what the Jays do with Manoah. Sounds like he had some outright insubordination by refusing to go to AAA. Dude, you were fucked last season, just go work our shit.

i didn't know he did that. i know he was sent to the complex because he was just doing that poorly in the majors and it is a low stakes developmental league where they were just telling him to try and pound the strike zone to get his groove back or w/e

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Zithers
11/05/23 3:41:19 PM
#21:


josh bell opts in to stay with the marlins. almost certainly being traded at the deadline.

padres also decline the options of pitchers michael wacha and nick martinez. they have no pitching lol. they're gonna trade soto for like four pitchers.

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Zithers
11/05/23 9:32:03 PM
#22:


marlins are hiring peter bendix to be their pobo. comes over after being a gm for the rays. only 38.

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GuerrillaSoldier
11/05/23 9:36:02 PM
#23:


boy really glad the a's front office is happy with what we've got out there so glad they won't make a single move the whole offseason

clowns


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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
11/05/23 10:55:17 PM
#24:


Stroman opted out? Always loved him on the Jays.

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Zithers
11/05/23 11:17:06 PM
#25:


GuerrillaSoldier posted...
boy really glad the a's front office is happy with what we've got out there so glad they won't make a single move the whole offseason

clowns

that would be the owner's fault not the ppl in the front office

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Zithers
11/06/23 2:11:29 PM
#26:


guardians hire stephen vogt to be their manager. huh.

carlos mendoza is hired by the mets. yankees bench coach

and then cubs randomly fire david ross and hire craig counsell from their rivals. counsell is being paid over 8m per year - largest salary for a manager ever, beating joe torre when he was with the yankees.

the cubs supposedly tried to get pete alonso at the deadline. now they make a huge hire here. are they gonna be in the ohtani sweepstakes???

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GeneralKenobi85
11/06/23 3:49:11 PM
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Cubs are almost certainly going to be in on some big players with that move. Really must suck to be a Brewers fan. Another franchise that deserves so much better.

I really expected Counsell to sign with the Mets. Hopefully Mendoza ends up being a good one though.

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Zithers
11/06/23 4:08:00 PM
#28:


hate to say it but lolmets

never even heard of this mendoza dude tbh

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Zithers
11/08/23 3:02:10 PM
#29:


Shohei Ohtani
Aaron Nola
Blake Snell
Cody Bellinger
Josh Hader
Matt Chapman
Sonny Gray

all of these players received a qualifying offer which is a 1 year 20.3m deal. whoever signs them might have to give up a pick and the team that loses them will receive a comp pick. i'm not sure how the compensation works but i expect every single one of these guys is getting paid 100m except for maybe hader which would mean 1st rounder maybe? not going to look this up

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GeneralKenobi85
11/08/23 4:19:15 PM
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Zithers posted...
Shohei Ohtani
Aaron Nola
Blake Snell
Cody Bellinger
Josh Hader
Matt Chapman
Sonny Gray

all of these players received a qualifying offer which is a 1 year 20.3m deal. whoever signs them might have to give up a pick and the team that loses them will receive a comp pick. i'm not sure how the compensation works but i expect every single one of these guys is getting paid 100m except for maybe hader which would mean 1st rounder maybe? not going to look this up
It's dependent on whether the team was over the CBT the previous year, was a revenue-sharing recipient, or neither of the two. Seems dumb and complicated.

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/qualifying-offer

Hopefully the next round of collective bargaining they get rid of this nonsense. They tried to last year, but it didn't happen.

Anyway, the Yankees really made themselves look fucking dumb yesterday. Steinbrenner and Cashman are both awful.

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Starks
11/08/23 4:20:13 PM
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Zithers posted...
hate to say it but lolmets

never even heard of this mendoza dude tbh
https://youtu.be/kDBPeRqi3v0?si=3mgKDEk0rVzA8yYe

We're not going to have any healthy pitchers either

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Zithers
11/08/23 4:30:25 PM
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angels hiring ron washington as manager. was braves base coach past couple years and obv used to manage the rival rangers.

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Shishiwakamaru
11/08/23 4:31:28 PM
#33:


Zithers posted...
hate to say it but lolmets

never even heard of this mendoza dude tbh

tbh you don't want a celebrity as your manager

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Zithers
11/08/23 4:42:40 PM
#34:


Shishiwakamaru posted...
tbh you don't want a celebrity as your manager

i mean the whole mets thing was they were going to hire david stearns from the brewers and then bring over counsell who is widely regarded as an S tier manager

now theyre hiring a first time guy who worked under aaron boone - a guy hired with no experience managing at all ever - for a team that went through coaching changes mid year and has all sorts of drama around how the team is run and whatnot. i dunno. i would have wanted a veteran presence with front office experience/synergy who can keep things stable like counsell, melvin, etc

none of this will really matter though if the mets reshape their r&d i guess. they really improved the farm and cohen's willingness to spend should keep them competitive once things start rolling.

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Zithers
11/08/23 6:04:03 PM
#35:


apparently there is a stomach bug circulating at the GM meetings. everyone having diarrhea.

in other news, dave dombrowski said the phillies are keeping bryce harper at 1B and hoskins is being let into free agency.

also alex anthopoulos said the braves will be increasing payroll :o

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Zithers
11/10/23 12:21:31 AM
#36:


https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2024-top-50-mlb-free-agents/

top 50 free agents per fangraphs

their anonymous reader crowdsourcing predicts...

10/450 for ohtani
7/175 for yoshi
6/144 for bellinger
6/150 for nola
5/125 for snell
5/105 for montgomery
4/80 for chapman
3/63 for sonny
4/76 for e-rod
4/72 for hader

man this FA class is so shitty lmao

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Zithers
11/12/23 3:16:22 PM
#37:


astros hiring joe espada to be manager. he's been their bench coach since 2018.

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Zithers
11/13/23 2:57:04 PM
#38:


braves are apparently in on ohtani. and ohtani reportedly doesn't care about geographic location. he wants to win.

as a former braves fan, atlanta native, and hate of the dodgers, it would be hilarious if ohtani went to them instead of LA

kinda doubt it happens tho

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Zithers
11/13/23 8:39:24 PM
#39:


gunnar henderson and corbin carroll both unanimously win rookies of the year

gunnar adds a year of service time and the o's get a comp pick for it. presumably the dbacks do as well but corbin already got an extension so nothing for him i guess? also why haven't the o's extended gunnar or adley?

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Zithers
11/13/23 11:47:37 PM
#40:


brewers naming bench coach pat murphy their manager. was counsell's BC for 8 years or whatever it was

someone else should post btw

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SF_Okami
11/13/23 11:55:06 PM
#41:


I'm hoping for one more year of Zack Greinke. That man is a legend.

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11/14/23 3:10:32 PM
#42:


Zithers posted...
brewers naming bench coach pat murphy their manager. was counsell's BC for 8 years or whatever it was

someone else should post btw
That just leaves the Padres.

Speaking of the Padres, their owner died. Peter Seidler. One of the few owners that seemed to legitimately care about winning. Died pretty young too, only 63.

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Zithers
11/14/23 3:14:44 PM
#43:


yeah. sad.

i also saw that yoshi yamamoto hired the same agent that reps kodai senga and edwin diaz :o

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Zithers
11/14/23 3:39:56 PM
#44:


jeff passan reporting the rays are likely to move tyler glasnow

weird move since most of their rotation will miss next year with TJ's (rasmussen, springs, mclanahan)

but also theyre the rays and can manufacture pitching out of nothing so whatever i guess. glasnow *is* an ace though... with the enormous caveat that he is just never healthy.

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Zithers
11/14/23 10:12:00 PM
#45:


brandon hyde and skip schumaker win managers of the year

jeff passan reporting the padres want to trade juan soto for young major league ready pitching, citing the yankees, mariners, and cubs as teams with the firepower to do that. then saying yankees are in the lead bc cubs and mariners will likely want to keep their arms. why? idk. mariners are great at pitching dev so trading for soto would be smart. however they don't like spending money, which juan soto will want in his upcoming free agency year, so yeah.


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Zithers
11/15/23 4:55:28 PM
#46:


twins are looking to reduce payroll. losing sonny gray is part of that of course.

also being reported that the pitch clock with runners on may be lowered from 20 seconds to 18 seconds... why....

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Delirious_Beard
11/15/23 9:41:48 PM
#47:


blake snell did not deserve this cy young lol

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11/15/23 9:42:37 PM
#48:


Source tells me the Royals are getting Ohtani

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11/15/23 9:44:24 PM
#49:


Delirious_Beard posted...
blake snell did not deserve this cy young lol

he got pretty lucky with the FIP-ERA difference but ultimately ERA is what matters. i'd have voted for him too. if you throw nasty as hell stuff that no one can actually hit to score runs it doesn't matter if you walk a ton of dudes.

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Delirious_Beard
11/15/23 9:55:28 PM
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i'm okay with the Cy going to pitchers with unimpressive innings totals if they are well and truly dominant in them (ie Corbin Burnes in '21)

Snell does not meet that qualification at all. he was 20th in SIERA and in general was just very fortunate with runners on base, hence his shiny ERA

Logan Webb was robbed

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