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Trumpo 10/30/23 4:35:01 PM #1:	Their rise seems quite inorganic and will be joining the wicked billionaires --- Lancool II \| Z690 Tomahawk \|12700K \| Fuma 2 \| RTX 3070Ti \| 16GB 3600MHz \| FireCuda 530 1TB \| Inland NVMe 1TB \| RM750x <cite>Trumpo posted [p:976942724] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Their rise seems quite inorganic and will be joining the wicked billionaires </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MatzoTov 10/30/23 4:40:32 PM #2:	No - that Chargers fan was a plant though. --- Sigless by choice <cite>MatzoTov posted [p:976942805] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>No - that Chargers fan was a plant though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/30/23 4:42:51 PM #3:	She has legitimate talent, but is ALSO from a high connected family. To put it a different way: she deserves her fame, but I bet there's a thousand girls more talented who will never even get the chance because they don't have a family rich enough to move to Nashville or connected enough to open doors for her, nor rich enough to buy a large stake in the label that eventually signed her. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:976942841] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>She has legitimate talent, but is ALSO from a high connected family. To put it a different way: she deserves her fame, but I bet there's a thousand girls more talented who will never even get the chance because they don't have a family rich enough to move to Nashville or connected enough to open doors for her, nor rich enough to buy a large stake in the label that eventually signed her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/30/23 4:44:08 PM #4:	I like that every time a woman is successful the internet creates a giant conspriacy theory about how she doesn't really deserve it and someone else must have created her success for her. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:976942859] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>I like that every time a woman is successful the internet creates a giant conspriacy theory about how she doesn't really deserve it and someone else must have created her success for her. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 10/30/23 4:45:00 PM #5:	Does the sun rise in the east? --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:976942873] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Does the sun rise in the east? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 10/30/23 4:45:08 PM #6:	Im pretty sure TaySway doesnt use they/them. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:976942877] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Im pretty sure TaySway doesnt use they/them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 10/30/23 4:46:10 PM #7:	the term "industry plant" seems to be thrown around loosely nowadays... <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:976942896] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>the term "industry plant" seems to be thrown around loosely nowadays...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AzNDarkSamurai 10/30/23 4:47:19 PM #8:	s0nicfan posted... She has legitimate talent, but is ALSO from a high connected family. To put it a different way: she deserves her fame, but I bet there's a thousand girls more talented who will never even get the chance because they don't have a family rich enough to move to Nashville or connected enough to open doors for her, nor rich enough to buy a large stake in the label that eventually signed her. This no matter how talented you are, you have no shot at her level of fame if you dont have the right connections around you --- Pinoy Pride, 1988 - the day I die! <cite>AzNDarkSamurai posted [p:976942915] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>She has legitimate talent, but is ALSO from a high connected family. To put it a different way: she deserves her fame, but I bet there's a thousand girls more talented who will never even get the chance because they don't have a family rich enough to move to Nashville or connected enough to open doors for her, nor rich enough to buy a large stake in the label that eventually signed her.</quote>Thisno matter how talented you are, you have no shot at her level of fame if you dont have the right connections around you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumpo 10/30/23 4:56:46 PM #9:	SaikyoStyle posted... Im pretty sure TaySway doesnt use they/them. Quiet you ZevLoveDOOM posted... the term "industry plant" seems to be thrown around loosely nowadays... Illuminati --- Lancool II \| Z690 Tomahawk \|12700K \| Fuma 2 \| RTX 3070Ti \| 16GB 3600MHz \| FireCuda 530 1TB \| Inland NVMe 1TB \| RM750x <cite>Trumpo posted [p:976943054] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>SaikyoStyle posted... </cite><quote>Im pretty sure TaySway doesnt use they/them.</quote>Quiet youZevLoveDOOM posted... </cite><quote>the term "industry plant" seems to be thrown around loosely nowadays...</quote>Illuminati </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 10/30/23 4:59:23 PM #10:	UnfairRepresent posted... I like that every time a woman is successful the internet creates a giant conspriacy theory about how she doesn't really deserve it and someone else must have created her success for her. Or maybe you only notice when it's a woman. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:976943093] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite><quote>I like that every time a woman is successful the internet creates a giant conspriacy theory about how she doesn't really deserve it and someone else must have created her success for her.</quote>Or maybe you only notice when it's a woman. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 10/30/23 5:03:59 PM #11:	What does "industry plant" even mean? Her fans aren't being forced to but her music or go to her concerts. Clearly she puts out a product the fans enjoy. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:976943163] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>What does "industry plant" even mean? Her fans aren't being forced to but her music or go to her concerts. Clearly she puts out a product the fans enjoy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BloodMoon7 10/30/23 5:05:26 PM #12:	I ain't jelly. But I'm just sayin', could really use $2k rn. I bet Taylor Swift wipes her ass with $2k bills. --- My maid will hear about this. <cite>BloodMoon7 posted [p:976943183] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>I ain't jelly. But I'm just sayin', could really use $2k rn. I bet Taylor Swift wipes her ass with $2k bills. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/30/23 5:06:16 PM #13:	lolife67 posted... What does "industry plant" even mean? Her fans aren't being forced to but her music or go to her concerts. Clearly she puts out a product the fans enjoy. IIRC it usually means a well connected and/or rich artist who is being propped up by labels as a nobody discovered at random, continuing to push the narrative that anyone can be a star, when in reality said individual was already well connected in industry and not actually "discovered." EDIT: I dunno how legit these are, but here are some examples https://lipstiq.com/208361/singers-you-didnt-know-are-industry-plants/ The New Zealand born singer-songwriter, Lorde, was accused of being an industry plant when fans discovered that she had already signed to Universal Music Group when her EP The Love Club was released for free on the music streaming platform, SoundCloud. It was said that the record executives felt confident pushing ahead with an official release when it was downloaded over 60,000 times. Her fame was disguised as organic growth with a strong underdog narrative while in reality, she was backed by a massive label. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:976943195] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite><quote>What does "industry plant" even mean? Her fans aren't being forced to but her music or go to her concerts. Clearly she puts out a product the fans enjoy.</quote>IIRC it usually means a well connected and/or rich artist who is being propped up by labels as a nobody discovered at random, continuing to push the narrative that anyone can be a star, when in reality said individual was already well connected in industry and not actually "discovered."EDIT: I dunno how legit these are, but here are some exampleshttps://lipstiq.com/208361/singers-you-didnt-know-are-industry-plants/<quote>The New Zealand born singer-songwriter, Lorde, was accused of being an industry plant when fans discovered that she had already signed to Universal Music Group when her EP The Love Club was released for free on the music streaming platform, SoundCloud. It was said that the record executives felt confident pushing ahead with an official release when it was downloaded over 60,000 times. Her fame was disguised as organic growth with a strong underdog narrative while in reality, she was backed by a massive label.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/30/23 5:13:28 PM #14:	Record labels creating an image for their artists and pushing them? That would be their job. It's not a conspiracy. The New Zealand born singer-songwriter, Lorde, was accused of being an industry plant when fans discovered that she had already signed to Universal Music Group when her EP The Love Club was released for free on the music streaming platform, SoundCloud. It was said that the record executives felt confident pushing ahead with an official release when it was downloaded over 60,000 times. Her fame was disguised as organic growth with a strong underdog narrative while in reality, she was backed by a massive label. So the label only backed her after she had achieved 60,000 downloads? Sounds to me like she got there on her own. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976943307] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Record labels creating an image for their artists and pushing them?That would be their job. It's not a conspiracy.<quote>The New Zealand born singer-songwriter, Lorde, was accused of being an industry plant when fans discovered that she had already signed to Universal Music Group when her EP The Love Club was released for free on the music streaming platform, SoundCloud. It was said that the record executives felt confident pushing ahead with an official release when it was downloaded over 60,000 times. Her fame was disguised as organic growth with a strong underdog narrative while in reality, she was backed by a massive label.</quote>So the label only backed her after she had achieved 60,000 downloads?Sounds to me like she got there on her own. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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1337toothbrush 10/30/23 5:19:11 PM #16:	Regardless, I don't know how any single artist is worth millions if you base it on talent because the internet has shown that talent really isn't as rare as people think it is. These rich artists are mainly rich because they've been made a conduit to collect money for big labels. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:976943388] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Regardless, I don't know how any single artist is worth millions if you base it on talent because the internet has shown that talent really isn't as rare as people think it is. These rich artists are mainly rich because they've been made a conduit to collect money for big labels. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/30/23 5:20:17 PM #17:	ai123 posted... Record labels creating an image for their artists and pushing them? That would be their job. It's not a conspiracy. So the label only backed her after she had achieved 60,000 downloads? Sounds to me like she got there on her own. No, they backed her when they signed her and then worked with her to get her music recorded, mixed, produced, and released on SoundCloud while pretending she was acting independently. Like... they literally shaped her career up until that point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Club_EP Lorde was discovered by A&R representative Scott MacLachlan of Universal Music Group (UMG) at the age of 12, when MacLachlan saw footage of Lorde performing at a school talent show in Auckland, New Zealand. At the age of 13, Lorde started writing songs herself. MacLachlan unsuccessfully tried to set up Lorde with several songwriters and producers to help her with production.[3] Ultimately, he paired Lorde with Joel Little in December 2011, when she had just turned 15. Little was impressed by Lorde's vocal performance and songwriting abilities, and he built songs with musical structures based on Lorde's lyrics They spent 3 years pairing her up with different industry professionals until they found a fit, then they recorded the EP, then they let her release it on SoundCloud. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:976943404] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>Record labels creating an image for their artists and pushing them?That would be their job. It's not a conspiracy.So the label only backed her after she had achieved 60,000 downloads?Sounds to me like she got there on her own.</quote>No, they backed her when they signed her and then worked with her to get her music recorded, mixed, produced, and released on SoundCloud while pretending she was acting independently. Like... they literally shaped her career up until that point:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Club_EP<quote>Lorde was discovered by A&R representative Scott MacLachlan of Universal Music Group (UMG) at the age of 12, when MacLachlan saw footage of Lorde performing at a school talent show in Auckland, New Zealand. At the age of 13, Lorde started writing songs herself. MacLachlan unsuccessfully tried to set up Lorde with several songwriters and producers to help her with production.[3] Ultimately, he paired Lorde with Joel Little in December 2011, when she had just turned 15. Little was impressed by Lorde's vocal performance and songwriting abilities, and he built songs with musical structures based on Lorde's lyrics</quote>They spent 3 years pairing her up with different industry professionals until they found a fit, then they recorded the EP, then they let her release it on SoundCloud. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 10/30/23 5:21:07 PM #18:	s0nicfan posted... She has legitimate talent, but is ALSO from a high connected family. To put it a different way: she deserves her fame, but I bet there's a thousand girls more talented who will never even get the chance because they don't have a family rich enough to move to Nashville or connected enough to open doors for her, nor rich enough to buy a large stake in the label that eventually signed her. Not only this, but she's a smart business woman who has kept clean and stayed consistent. As such she has built up quite an army of loyalists. There are far better pop stars imo but few with her track record. --- THE Ohio State: 7-0 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 3-4 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:976943416] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>She has legitimate talent, but is ALSO from a high connected family. To put it a different way: she deserves her fame, but I bet there's a thousand girls more talented who will never even get the chance because they don't have a family rich enough to move to Nashville or connected enough to open doors for her, nor rich enough to buy a large stake in the label that eventually signed her.</quote>Not only this, but she's a smart business woman who has kept clean and stayed consistent. As such she has built up quite an army of loyalists. There are far better pop stars imo but few with her track record. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 10/30/23 5:27:07 PM #19:	imma let you finish... --- my memory not so good no more - that's all i can remember for now <cite>toreysback posted [p:976943513] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>imma let you finish... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/30/23 5:27:09 PM #20:	s0nicfan posted... No, they backed her when they signed her and then worked with her to get her music recorded, mixed, produced, and released on SoundCloud while pretending she was acting independently. Like... they literally shaped her career up until that point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Club_EP They spent 3 years pairing her up with different industry professionals until they found a fit, then they recorded the EP, then they let her release it on SoundCloud. So they backed her from the age of 13, based on her songwriting and vocal talent. That's very impressive. She's earned her success. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976943516] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>No, they backed her when they signed her and then worked with her to get her music recorded, mixed, produced, and released on SoundCloud while pretending she was acting independently. Like... they literally shaped her career up until that point:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Club_EPThey spent 3 years pairing her up with different industry professionals until they found a fit, then they recorded the EP, then they let her release it on SoundCloud.</quote>So they backed her from the age of 13, based on her songwriting and vocal talent.That's very impressive. She's earned her success. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 10/30/23 5:29:52 PM #21:	I feel like "industry plant" usually implies that the person is basically astroturfed but marketed as being grassroots, not just "they have connections". --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:976943553] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>I feel like "industry plant" usually implies that the person is basically astroturfed but marketed as being grassroots, not just "they have connections". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 10/30/23 5:31:58 PM #22:	s0nicfan posted... No, they backed her when they signed her and then worked with her to get her music recorded, mixed, produced, and released on SoundCloud while pretending she was acting independently. Like... they literally shaped her career up until that point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Club_EP They spent 3 years pairing her up with different industry professionals until they found a fit, then they recorded the EP, then they let her release it on SoundCloud. But she's some random girl from New Zealand. There still would have to be a reason to give her this effort. It's not like she was grown in a lab. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:976943574] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>No, they backed her when they signed her and then worked with her to get her music recorded, mixed, produced, and released on SoundCloud while pretending she was acting independently. Like... they literally shaped her career up until that point:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Club_EPThey spent 3 years pairing her up with different industry professionals until they found a fit, then they recorded the EP, then they let her release it on SoundCloud.</quote>But she's some random girl from New Zealand. There still would have to be a reason to give her this effort. It's not like she was grown in a lab. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1337toothbrush 10/30/23 6:06:20 PM #23:	Punished_Blinx posted... But she's some random girl from New Zealand. There still would have to be a reason to give her this effort. It's not like she was grown in a lab. It really doesn't matter for a label. They can turn anyone into a star. --- https://imgur.com/a/FU9H8 - https://i.imgur.com/ZkQRDsR.png - https://i.imgur.com/2x2gtgP.jpg <cite>1337toothbrush posted [p:976944089] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Punished_Blinx posted... </cite><quote>But she's some random girl from New Zealand. There still would have to be a reason to give her this effort. It's not like she was grown in a lab.</quote>It really doesn't matter for a label. They can turn anyone into a star. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toreysback 10/30/23 6:10:52 PM #24:	there's a whole bunch of cookie cutters waitin' there in tennessee they make stars every day and one of em could be me --- my memory not so good no more - that's all i can remember for now <cite>toreysback posted [p:976944160] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>there's a whole bunch of cookie cutterswaitin' there in tennesseethey make stars every dayand one of em could be me </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 10/30/23 6:13:07 PM #25:	1337toothbrush posted... It really doesn't matter for a label. They can turn anyone into a star. I don't think that would be true otherwise we'd all be watching Paris Hilton breaking records with her stadium tour. Voice contestants would dominate the charts. There still has to be star potential in someone (and no that isn't solely about how well they can sing). At the very least they could maybe force a one hit wonder or a fad but forcing an entire long lasting career is another story. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:976944202] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>It really doesn't matter for a label. They can turn anyone into a star.</quote>I don't think that would be true otherwise we'd all be watching Paris Hilton breaking records with her stadium tour. Voice contestants would dominate the charts. There still has to be star potential in someone (and no that isn't solely about how well they can sing). At the very least they could maybe force a one hit wonder or a fad but forcing an entire long lasting career is another story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 10/30/23 6:17:13 PM #26:	They're all industry plants and former child stars now. Kelly Clarkson and Lady Gaga might be the last organic stars that got where they are on an outsider track. No idea about rap/hip hop though... so I dunno if Cardi B was connected or came up organically for example. --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 <cite>Torgo posted [p:976944268] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>They're all industry plants and former child stars now.Kelly Clarkson and Lady Gaga might be the last organic stars that got where they are on an outsider track.No idea about rap/hip hop though... so I dunno if Cardi B was connected or came up organically for example. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/30/23 6:23:24 PM #27:	1337toothbrush posted... It really doesn't matter for a label. They can turn anyone into a star. No they cannot. There are dozens of failed popstars for every Lorde and Taylor Swift. The fact that you won't remember them is kind of the point. Millions were spent on trying to turn the likes of Carly Smithson, Austin Mahone, and Tori Kelly into superstars. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976944370] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>1337toothbrush posted... </cite><quote>It really doesn't matter for a label. They can turn anyone into a star.</quote>No they cannot. There are dozens of failed popstars for every Lorde and Taylor Swift.The fact that you won't remember them is kind of the point. Millions were spent on trying to turn the likes of Carly Smithson, Austin Mahone, and Tori Kelly into superstars. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 10/30/23 6:23:29 PM #28:	Torgo posted... They're all industry plants and former child stars now. Kelly Clarkson and Lady Gaga might be the last organic stars that got where they are on an outsider track. No idea about rap/hip hop though... so I dunno if Cardi B was connected or came up organically for example. Why would you count Kelly Clarkson but not Harry Styles? Wasn't Justin Bieber discovered on YouTube? Overall yeah there are singers who got to have more opportunities to be successful due to their wealth or connections from their parents. But that's life and isn't unique to singing. It's just how it is. Doesn't mean they didn't earn their success and career. The odds are still against any individual. Whoever at the label still has to believe that there's potential in the artists they sign. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:976944373] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Torgo posted... </cite><quote>They're all industry plants and former child stars now.Kelly Clarkson and Lady Gaga might be the last organic stars that got where they are on an outsider track.No idea about rap/hip hop though... so I dunno if Cardi B was connected or came up organically for example.</quote>Why would you count Kelly Clarkson but not Harry Styles? Wasn't Justin Bieber discovered on YouTube?Overall yeah there are singers who got to have more opportunities to be successful due to their wealth or connections from their parents. But that's life and isn't unique to singing. It's just how it is. Doesn't mean they didn't earn their success and career. The odds are still against any individual. Whoever at the label still has to believe that there's potential in the artists they sign. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AnsestralRecall 10/30/23 6:27:55 PM #29:	idk why people even give a shit about this <cite>AnsestralRecall posted [p:976944424] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>idk why people even give a shit about this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 10/30/23 6:30:50 PM #30:	It is literally the job of a record label to turn its acts into stars, or at least maximize their earnings. Whether that be the most anodyne pop performer or the heaviest of metal bands, it's exactly the same. That's why bands sign with major labels in the first place: they want their music out there, being pushed and promoted. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level <cite>ai123 posted [p:976944473] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>It is literally the job of a record label to turn its acts into stars, or at least maximize their earnings.Whether that be the most anodyne pop performer or the heaviest of metal bands, it's exactly the same. That's why bands sign with major labels in the first place: they want their music out there, being pushed and promoted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeesMcGees 10/30/23 6:54:00 PM #31:	She had family connections that as others said really put things in her favor at the start. I know nothing about country music to have any idea of environment of her early work. At this point shes established, so its impossible to currently be acting as an industry plant. Though, I assume her trend chasing style shifts is the a product of the industry at worst or just copying fresher trending artists while having a bigger reach at best. While I thought folklore and evermore were listenable, they definitely like so the kids like Phoebe Bridgers right now. Then I heard the maligned Reputation was copied off of Katy Perry, and at least Carly Rae Jensen and Tegan and Sara had beaten her to the punch of 80s influenced pop albums. <cite>VeesMcGees posted [p:976944872] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>She had family connections that as others said really put things in her favor at the start. I know nothing about country music to have any idea of environment of her early work. At this point shes established, so its impossible to currently be acting as an industry plant. Though, I assume her trend chasing style shifts is the a product of the industry at worst or just copying fresher trending artists while having a bigger reach at best. While I thought folklore and evermore were listenable, they definitely like so the kids like Phoebe Bridgers right now. Then I heard the maligned Reputation was copied off of Katy Perry, and at least Carly Rae Jensen and Tegan and Sara had beaten her to the punch of 80s influenced pop albums.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 10/30/23 7:03:40 PM #32:	AnsestralRecall posted... idk why people even give a shit about this The incel masses have been trying to downplay her achievements/talent for quite awhile. Strong successful women terrify them. --- Posted under Ellesarian in a past life. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:976945054] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>AnsestralRecall posted... </cite><quote>idk why people even give a shit about this</quote>The incel masses have been trying to downplay her achievements/talent for quite awhile. Strong successful women terrify them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeesMcGees 10/30/23 7:06:58 PM #33:	Sandalorn posted... The incel masses have been trying to downplay her achievements/talent for quite awhile. Strong successful women terrify them. Hey now, I just have heavy biases against people associated with modern country music and I was still in my edgy anti-pop era when Swift was prominently pushed down our throat. Since the feeling of that push never dissipated, I still hold the same feelings in the present, even if I liked her last album. <cite>VeesMcGees posted [p:976945118] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Sandalorn posted... </cite><quote>The incel masses have been trying to downplay her achievements/talent for quite awhile. Strong successful women terrify them.</quote>Hey now, I just have heavy biases against people associated with modern country music and I was still in my edgy anti-pop era when Swift was prominently pushed down our throat. Since the feeling of that push never dissipated, I still hold the same feelings in the present, even if I liked her last album.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 10/30/23 7:10:19 PM #34:	Just to clarify what this connection actually was. Scott Borchetta was starting up a label called Big Machine Records and Swift was one of the first artists he wanted to sign after seeing her play in a cafe. Her Dad was an investment banker and bought 3% of the company (which was worth about 500k at the time). --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:976945169] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Just to clarify what this connection actually was. Scott Borchetta was starting up a label called Big Machine Records and Swift was one of the first artists he wanted to sign after seeing her play in a cafe. Her Dad was an investment banker and bought 3% of the company (which was worth about 500k at the time). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot 10/30/23 7:14:26 PM #35:	People really can't accept that a six foot tall blonde girl who grew up on a Christmas tree farm is the best pop singer and songwriter in the world. <cite>BewmHedshot posted [p:976945251] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>People really can't accept that a six foot tall blonde girl who grew up on a Christmas tree farm is the best pop singer and songwriter in the world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumpo 10/30/23 7:19:00 PM #36:	Lol at you if you don't think she has ghostwriters --- Lancool II \| Z690 Tomahawk \|12700K \| Fuma 2 \| RTX 3070Ti \| 16GB 3600MHz \| FireCuda 530 1TB \| Inland NVMe 1TB \| RM750x <cite>Trumpo posted [p:976945330] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Lol at you if you don't think she has ghostwriters </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BewmHedshot 10/30/23 8:14:14 PM #37:	Trumpo posted... Lol at you if you don't think she has ghostwriters Lol at you, the other people who help write her songs are credited on the songs. <cite>BewmHedshot posted [p:976946203] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>Trumpo posted... </cite><quote>Lol at you if you don't think she has ghostwriters</quote>Lol at you, the other people who help write her songs are credited on the songs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumpo 10/30/23 8:15:03 PM #38:	--- Lancool II \| Z690 Tomahawk \|12700K \| Fuma 2 \| RTX 3070Ti \| 16GB 3600MHz \| FireCuda 530 1TB \| Inland NVMe 1TB \| RM750x <cite>Trumpo posted [p:976946217] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AnsestralRecall 10/30/23 8:16:54 PM #39:	BewmHedshot posted... People really can't accept that a six foot tall blonde girl who grew up on a Christmas tree farm is the best pop singer and songwriter in the world. bud, she's no carly rae jepsen calm the fuck down <cite>AnsestralRecall posted [p:976946240] in Is Taylor ... [t:80607011]...</cite> <quote>BewmHedshot posted... </cite><quote>People really can't accept that a six foot tall blonde girl who grew up on a Christmas tree farm is the best pop singer and songwriter in the world.</quote>bud, she's no carly rae jepsen calm the fuck down</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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