Current Events > Pakistan deporting 1.4 million Afghan refugees

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The UN is asking to hold off to avoid human rights violations.

Oh so now they care about human rights violations

That is Pakistan's right to do so.

Afghanis had tons of western hardware to confront a small poorly equipped Taliban army, and chose to run rather than fight. Taliban were willing to fight and die to win, so they did.

Wow imagine blaming Afghans themselves for the US's failure to prop up an unpopular administration. Unsurprisingly coming from the Israel apologist, I guess starving the Palestinian is an act of good too?

That is Pakistan's right to do so.

I like how you admit the alternative to the Taliban was unpopular and spin that as some kind of "own".
And I'll ignore the last part just as the mods will, since you're apparently free to "Intentionally antagonize other users by being inflammatory, irrelevant, disruptive, or offensive".
Meanwhile if I called it by name what it is, I'd have my post taken down within an hour.

I like how you admit the alternative to the Taliban was unpopular and spin that as some kind of "own".
And I'll ignore the last part just as the mods will, since you're apparently free to "Intentionally antagonize other users by being inflammatory, irrelevant, disruptive, or offensive".
Meanwhile if I called it by name what it is, I'd have my post taken down within an hour.

In the early years, when the Taliban were on the run, the Pentagon, under the defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld, was loth to fund a substantial Afghan force, particularly after the Iraq invasion drew away resources and attention.

Later, when the Taliban had regrouped and struck back, the coalition raced to build the Afghan national security forces (ANSF) comprising army, police and militias on a huge scale, totalling over 350,000 at their peak, cutting corners on training and funding.

Out in the provinces, newly minted police were left to fend for themselves, and many used their authority and guns to squeeze income out of the population. Army officers drew salaries for tens of thousands ghost soldiers, whose names were on the books, but who never materialised.

We economised. We got the ANSF we deserve, Douglas Lute, a three-star army general who served as the Afghan war tsar in the Bush and Obama administrations, said in his lessons learned interview. If we started with the ANSF in 2002-6 when the Taliban were weak and disorganised, things may have been different. Instead we went to Iraq.

Throughout the 20 years of the US war in Afghanistan, it is clear that the ANSFs capabilities were consistently oversold by a succession of US defence secretaries and military commanders, who enthused over progress made.

BTW US has begun deporting Venezuelans to Caracas.

Wow imagine blaming Afghans themselves for the US's failure to prop up an unpopular administration. Unsurprisingly coming from the Israel apologist, I guess starving the Palestinian is an act of good too?

they couldnt do that.

This.

Afghanis had tons of western hardware to confront a small poorly equipped Taliban army, and chose to run rather than fight. Taliban were willing to fight and die to win, so they did.
Ukraine (initially) had far less western equipment and faced hundreds of thousands of troops with tanks, aircraft, artillery, a navy, and everything else. They were willing to fight, and now they'll get to retain their freedom.

That's the way of the world, whether we like it or not. Evils like the Taliban, the mullahs of Iran, Putin, or Hamas don't give up if you just ask nicely. You either rise up against them or fall in line.

The Afghanis had no right to stay in Pakistan indefinitely. If they hate living under the Taliban, they can fight for their freedom. Though it'll be much more difficult than if they had done that in the first place instead of all trying to flee.

Unless people are proposing the US or the EU get involved in the middle east (again)

it was under trump administration when it first started.
biden tried to clean up after him.

I was referring to the Afgahans and their apparent lack of a will to fight.

Some of us have been taught violence is not the solution.