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10/28/23 4:02:04 PM
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BlueTigerLion
10/28/23 6:06:01 PM
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https://www.mensjournal.com/news/tiktoker-divides-internet-six-foods-no-refrigeration

A TikToker has divided the Internet after posting a video detailing six commonly refrigerated foods that she says require cooling. New York-based influencer Caroline Solomon, better known as Neat Carolyn to her nearly 250,000 TikTok followers, posted the divisive clip last week. According to Solomon, chocolate, ketchup, garlic bulbs, olive oil, basil, and pastries should not be refrigerated. As for ketchup, Solomon tells viewers, You can totally keep the bottle in the fridge, but its entirely safe to keep it in your cupboard as well. This tidbit sparked another round in the ongoing debate about proper ketchup storage, with many saying that the condiment must be refrigerated after opening. Many commenters argued that refrigerating ketchup preserved the flavor, while someone asked: So we just going to ignore labels that say refrigerated after opening? In June, the Heinz corporation weighed in on the debate, tweeting out a reminder that Ketchup. goes. in. the. Fridge!!! When that post spawned its own debate over the issue, Heinz tweeted out a poll for an official vote. According to KCRA 3, of the 11,000 ballots cast, 61.8 percent said ketchup belongs in the fridge, while 38.2 percent said they keep theirs in the cupboard.

Men's Journal spoke with Solomon, who says she is aware of Heinz's stance on the matter. However, she contends that little harm can come from leaving your ketchup out. It all comes down to personal preference, she says. "Ive been known to leave a bottle of ketchup out for a few days, and nothings happened," Solomon told us. "I also have peers who leave their ketchup out. They themselves are avid ketchup users," so are savvy to proper storage methods. "If its a condiment you use frequently, youll probably use it up before it starts to go off," she reasoned. "Its my understanding that no pathogens will grow on the ketchup if you leave it out." Indeed, ketchup will not sprout pathogens if left out. However, "some mold could grow there," Dr. Melvin N. Kramer, president of food safety consultation group EHA, told The Guardian in July.

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thronedfire2
10/28/23 6:07:21 PM
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depends how fast it gets used, it'll still probably take weeks to grow mold without refrigeration


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AnsestralRecall
10/28/23 6:08:25 PM
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Ketchup should be kept in the trash.
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Funkydog
10/28/23 6:08:47 PM
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My family never kept ours in the fridge growing up and it was fine, even for weeks.

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mercurydude
10/28/23 6:09:56 PM
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A lot of places use packets nowadays, but plenty of restaurants around here used to have the squeezy bottle of ketchup or a glass bottle right on the table. Never got sick from it. It's not like mayo where it will spoil fast if left out.

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Raikuro
10/28/23 6:11:09 PM
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Home air quality can have varying mold concentrations that there's no catch-all time frame that anyone should be claiming as good for everyone.
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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 6:12:51 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Home air quality can have varying mold concentrations that there's no catch-all time frame that anyone should be claiming as good for everyone.

This is exactly the answer. The reason packets last longer than bottles is because they're not exposed to open air. Once you open a bottle, it becomes exposed to air, and that impacts the shelf life. But there is no definite answer, and it's why, for pretty much ANY product, the "best by" date is a guideline, and not a definite answer. It could go bad before that date, it could go bad after that date. It all depends.

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Alchemist_Emil
10/28/23 6:13:48 PM
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I keep it cooled

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Rotterdammerung
10/28/23 6:15:08 PM
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People refrigerate it?

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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 6:16:04 PM
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Rotterdammerung posted...
People refrigerate it?

Every bottle literally says some form of "refrigerate after opening." Acting surprised by this is... Intriguing.

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thronedfire2
10/28/23 6:16:28 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
This is exactly the answer. The reason packets last longer than bottles is because they're not exposed to open air. Once you open a bottle, it becomes exposed to air, and that impacts the shelf life.

but unless you leave the cap open it's exposed to a very limited amount of air

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BlueTigerLion
10/28/23 6:17:06 PM
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Rotterdammerung posted...
People refrigerate it?


Biggest Ketchup company says you should.

https://twitter.com/HeinzUK/status/1673651138774589444

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Unsuprised_Pika
10/28/23 6:17:17 PM
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Raikuro posted...
Home air quality can have varying mold concentrations that there's no catch-all time frame that anyone should be claiming as good for everyone.

Thats a kinda horrifying sentence to think about.

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Nemu
10/28/23 6:17:51 PM
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It doesn't need to be, but it should if a bottle lasts you months. If you somehow go through one in a couple of weeks, then you're fine.
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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 6:18:13 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
but unless you leave the cap open it's exposed to a very limited amount of air

I mean, once it has been exposed to air, that changes things, period, no matter how limited it was. That's why there are "Refrigerate after opening" warnings on many things. Once you open something and it becomes exposed to air, regardless of how long, that has "contaminated" it in some way.

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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 6:20:17 PM
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That said, let me clarify further.

In the case of ketchup, you literally peel away a seal. The cap, itself, does NOT lock air out. Thus, once you broke the seal, it is ALWAYS being exposed to air, period, regardless of how slowly/minimally. The cap is not a seal.

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cjsdowg
10/28/23 6:22:05 PM
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Ketchup should be out. Going to put cold ass ketchup on my fries. Get out of here with that.

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StealThisSheen
10/28/23 6:23:54 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
Ketchup should be out. Going to put cold ass ketchup on my fries. Get out of here with that.

...Sit the ketchup out for a short while before you use it, then return it to the fridge between uses?

This is not rocket science.

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vycebrand2
10/28/23 6:41:07 PM
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A similar thing I read on a bottle today.
BBQ sauce. It was Taste best if refrigerated. So I guess you could leave it out

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KiwiTerraRizing
10/28/23 6:42:48 PM
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It has vinegar, its fine. Ive never kept it in the fridge.

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TuxedoCyan
10/28/23 6:43:43 PM
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My family goes through a 40oz bottle of ketchup once every 4-6 months and we never keep it in the refrigerator and we've never seen it go bad. It is kept in one of those vertical drawers in the kitchen though so maybe limiting exposure to light makes the difference.

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VFalcone
10/28/23 6:48:03 PM
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I have never refrigerated ketchup a single time in my entire life. Growing up, ketchup was never refrigerated there either. It's fine
KiwiTerraRizing posted...
It has vinegar, its fine. Ive never kept it in the fridge.

TuxedoCyan posted...
My family goes through a 40oz bottle of ketchup once every 4-6 months and we never keep it in the refrigerator and we've never seen it go bad. It is kept in one of those vertical drawers in the kitchen though so maybe limiting exposure to light makes the difference.
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Link_of_time
10/28/23 6:56:16 PM
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AnsestralRecall posted...
Ketchup should be kept in the trash.

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HylianFox
10/28/23 6:57:36 PM
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Ketchup has too much sugar in to spoil

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Aztex
10/28/23 6:59:11 PM
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Restaurants where you dine in that are not fast food such as Denny's, Saltgrass, Pappa's, etc....those have ketchup in room temperature

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boomgetchopped3
10/28/23 7:01:13 PM
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Ketchup is so much better at room temp. I microwave mine if I dont have enough time to keep it out of the fridge before use
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Tyranthraxus
10/28/23 7:02:07 PM
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mercurydude posted...
A lot of places use packets nowadays, but plenty of restaurants around here used to have the squeezy bottle of ketchup or a glass bottle right on the table. Never got sick from it. It's not like mayo where it will spoil fast if left out.
Packets are pasteurized before they're sealed. It's not the same thing. Ketchup will spoil faster if it's not refrigerated but if you use a lot of it then you can use it all before it spoils. It's usually good for at least a week

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Cephalopods
10/28/23 7:07:49 PM
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BlueTigerLion posted...
olive oil
I genuinely don't think I've ever seen olive oil refrigerated
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BuzzKilljoy
10/28/23 7:08:57 PM
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The people that keep their ketchup in cupboards probably also make people take shoes off in their houses.

Disgusting

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DirkDiggles
10/28/23 7:11:21 PM
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If it had real ingredients I would agree that it belongs in thee fridge.

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VFalcone
10/28/23 7:12:34 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's usually good for at least a week
Straight up not true. It lasts months on the shelf just fine after opening.
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Forty_Niners
10/28/23 7:13:13 PM
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Restaurants don't refrigerate them.

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R1masher
10/28/23 7:22:02 PM
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She should do eggs next or butter

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thronedfire2
10/28/23 7:26:41 PM
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R1masher posted...
She should do eggs next or butter

eggs only have to be refrigerated in america

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GunmaN1905
10/28/23 7:28:25 PM
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It all depends on where you live.
I can't imagine keeping stuff like ketchup or even worse eggs out of the fridge, it's just too hot.
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DementedDurian
10/28/23 7:28:53 PM
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BuzzKilljoy posted...
The people that keep their ketchup in cupboards probably also make people take shoes off in their houses.

Disgusting

So screw the Japanese then? Is that what you're really sayin'?

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indica
10/28/23 7:35:40 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
eggs only have to be refrigerated in america
or any place where eggs are an industrial production where they clean off the natural bloom

DementedDurian posted...
So screw the Japanese then? Is that what you're really sayin'?
Why are focusing on the Japanese? Lots of cultures prefer shoes off inside--like, shoes inside is fucking gross

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DementedDurian
10/28/23 7:41:10 PM
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indica posted...
Why are focusing on the Japanese? Lots of cultures prefer shoes off inside--like, shoes inside is fucking gross

I'm not very familiar with many cultures besides mine and some things in the Japanese culture.

I mean, my dad spent a few years in the Phillipines as an military brat yet he never told me much about Filipino life in general.

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thronedfire2
10/28/23 7:55:34 PM
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shoes off in the house should not even be a debate

there's a reason many societies consider it disrespectful to keep your shoes on in a person's home

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