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VGAddict90
10/27/23 8:14:21 AM
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https://www.wlwt.com/article/ohio-secretary-of-state-voter-roll-purge-2023-frank-larose-voter-status-check/45654058

Dems need to make public service announcements about voter roll purges and other forms of voter suppression. More people need to be aware of voter suppression.
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Quicksilver
10/27/23 8:19:19 AM
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So if you don't vote or show activity for 4 years you get removed seems fair. I vote every election so I never worry about this.

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Heineken14
10/27/23 8:24:21 AM
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Quicksilver posted...
seems fair.


No it doesn't.

Also, guy in the other topic said that he's been voting regularly and he still got removed.

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voldothegr8
10/27/23 8:29:38 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
No it doesn't.

Also, guy in the other topic said that he's been voting regularly and he still got removed.
Seems fair to me, and did this individual on the internet present proof?

Also, the amount purged is really low, the voting population is in the millions.

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ExtremeLuchador
10/27/23 8:31:58 AM
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It's weird though. Like I said in the other thread I have a relative who hasn't voted since 2012 and he still shows up on the board of elections. Are they selecting random people?

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marthsheretoo
10/27/23 8:33:57 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Seems fair to me

What's fair about it? As long as you have the right to vote, you should stay in the system.

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Heineken14
10/27/23 8:34:50 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...

Seems fair to me, and did this individual on the internet present proof?

Also, the amount purged is really low, the voting population is in the millions.


Nope. They very well could be lying, but it's irrelevant to the fact that your rights shouldn't be taken away simply because you do not use them. There is 1 singular reason why the republicans purge voter rolls.

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UnfairRepresent
10/27/23 8:35:13 AM
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marthsheretoo posted...


What's fair about it?
He's Republican

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mystic_belmont
10/27/23 8:35:40 AM
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I have to re-register for vote by mail after every single general election.

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Ranting__Nord
10/27/23 8:57:26 AM
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What's the phrase? Death by inches? If these elections are being decided by let's say a swing of 20,000 people than chopping a few thousand here and a few thousand there can swing the vote your way.

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tri-sapphire
10/27/23 9:02:27 AM
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Quicksilver posted...
So if you don't vote or show activity for 4 years you get removed seems fair. I vote every election so I never worry about this.
Seems fair if you're a fascist **** I suppose. Which is now your tag btw.

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CyricZ
10/27/23 9:08:30 AM
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It is, in fact, not fair.

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mach25687
10/27/23 9:13:44 AM
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Anybody who thinks this is fair to take your vote away from you if you don't vote is wrong.

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Southernfatman
10/27/23 9:15:58 AM
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Remember, any rights you have only apply if you exercise them within a certain time frame... apparently.

It's like if you want to continue having the right to own a gun, you have to buy a new one every four years.

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Doom_Art
10/27/23 9:20:00 AM
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You don't lose your freedom of speech if you go a certain amount of time without speaking publicly

Just sayin

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Crimson_Corsair
10/27/23 9:23:47 AM
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Nobody lost their right to vote, they just need to re-register if they want to.

Not sure I really have a problem with the act itself, but the timing makes it suspicious. This is something you do AFTER an election has been completed, not less than a month before, that seems like bullshit and should probably be investigated.

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Doom_Art
10/27/23 9:25:35 AM
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Crimson_Corsair posted...
Nobody lost their right to vote, they just need to re-register if they want to.
So what you're saying is these people can't vote?

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NPC
10/27/23 9:30:19 AM
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Cleaning voter rolls is an integral function of maintaining fair elections.

People move out of state, people die.
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Umbreon
10/27/23 9:35:54 AM
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"Having your rights trampled on is okay if you don't regularly use them"

I guess these people are comfortable giving up their 5th amendment rights. After all, when was the last time you were in a courtroom?

Speaking of courts, surely you don't need a speedy and public trail since you haven't regularly been on trail.

Oh and let's push that "No cruel and unusual punishment" thing aside as well.

Voting purges(due to "inactivity") are unethical and unconstitutional. At no point should there be an expiration date due to inactivity.

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deanshow
10/27/23 9:37:15 AM
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Only time you should be removed is if you die or move to another state

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Umbreon
10/27/23 9:39:13 AM
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Also know how this is bullshit?

"Click here to see if you got purged!"

Why not inform the person? Why try to stealth it? If someone silently gets removed from voter registry shortly before a voting season, and there's no effort to inform that person, you are essentially hoping they don't double-check in time.

Now who would benefit from such a thing?

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Quicksilver
10/27/23 9:43:39 AM
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So removing people who have shown no interest in voting and haven't voted for the longest time is going to swing elections? Why would these people suddenly decide to vote when they have previously shown no interest? Individuals have a responsibility to vote and keep their information accurate if people do not take the responsibility they get removed.

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s0nicfan
10/27/23 9:44:53 AM
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Wasn't this specifically just for people who are also in a registry as having moved away from the state? So it's a combination of people who according to records don't live there anymore who also haven't voted in 4 years.

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From the article
WCMH says in March 2019, 34,692 voters who appeared in the National Change of Address database as having potentially moved were mailed notices that they had four years to take action before they would be removed from the rolls. In February of this year, LaRose directed county election boards to send additional notices to inactive voters with the warning that their registration could be canceled after the May primary.

Per LaRoses 2019 directive and under the NCOA process, voter registrations were to be canceled by late July. In June, LaRose instructed elections boards not to purge voters before the August special election but to expel voters from the rolls by Sept. 27.

So these were people who have moved, who are given 4 years to update their information, including multiple reminders, and then the deadline was pushed back twice. At what point does this actually become fair?

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Umbreon
10/27/23 9:46:42 AM
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Quicksilver posted...
So removing people who have shown no interest in voting and haven't voted for the longest time is going to swing elections? Why would these people suddenly decide to vote when they have previously shown no interest? Individuals have a responsibility to vote and keep their information accurate if people do not take the responsibility they get removed.


Gonna house a bunch of soldiers in your place since you haven't mentioned anything bout not doing so for years.

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A_Good_Boy
10/27/23 9:54:49 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
So what you're saying is these people can't vote?
They can cast provisional ballots. All they gotta do is show their current ID.

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voldothegr8
10/27/23 11:32:27 AM
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marthsheretoo posted...
What's fair about it? As long as you have the right to vote, you should stay in the system.
No rights are being taken away, it has thoroughly explained.

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Guide
10/27/23 11:36:45 AM
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Quicksilver posted...
So if you don't vote or show activity for 4 years you get removed seems fair. I vote every election so I never worry about this.

On what grounds should a person be removed? What purpose does that serve?

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reincarnator07
10/27/23 12:21:42 PM
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Guide posted...
On what grounds should a person be removed? What purpose does that serve?
Well obviously it's there to stop that well known and widespread issue of in person voter fraud!

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luigi33
10/27/23 12:33:48 PM
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Tactics like this have become less effective in a time of instant access to information, people, and resources. There's a reason why Ohio Dems are far exceeding early voting expectations in spite of this. The time to warn people of GOP fuckery has decreased significantly now that everyone is on the internet and you can get the info out to people so much more quickly than you could have even 10 years ago.

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thronedfire2
10/27/23 12:40:47 PM
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Quicksilver posted...
So removing people who have shown no interest in voting and haven't voted for the longest time is going to swing elections? Why would these people suddenly decide to vote when they have previously shown no interest? Individuals have a responsibility to vote and keep their information accurate if people do not take the responsibility they get removed.

the fuck kind of shitty take is this

voting is a right, not a responsibility in that way

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Heineken14
10/27/23 12:46:20 PM
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Quicksilver posted...
So removing people who have shown no interest in voting and haven't voted for the longest time is going to swing elections? Why would these people suddenly decide to vote when they have previously shown no interest? Individuals have a responsibility to vote and keep their information accurate if people do not take the responsibility they get removed.


Who cares? Their rights shouldn't be taken away because they haven't used them at certain points in time.

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mercurydude
10/27/23 1:02:39 PM
#33:


voldothegr8 posted...
Seems fair to me, and did this individual on the internet present proof?

Also, the amount purged is really low, the voting population is in the millions.

If it were so low, you'd think it wouldn't be worth bothering. This isn't about keeping the system tidy, it's about voter suppression and hoping that those removed don't realize what happened until it's too late for them to do anything about it.

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