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teep_ 10/26/23 4:06:48 PM #1: |
https://www.golem.de/news/einheitliches-ladekabel-usb-c-wird-in-deutschland-zur-pflicht-2310-178821.html
From a Reddit comment (since I can't be bothered to translate myself) TL:DR - By the end of 2024, USB-C will be required as the new standard for smartphones, digital cameras, headphones, tablets, portable video game consoles, keyboards, e-readers, navigation devices, headsets and portable speakers, as long as they can be charged with a cable. From 2026, this charging standard will also apply to notebooks. --- this lie is love and this lie is a gift to the world ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 10/26/23 4:08:21 PM #2: |
Pretty sure this is an EU-wide thing?
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teep_ 10/26/23 4:12:37 PM #3: |
Trumble posted...
Pretty sure this is an EU-wide thing?This goes even further than EU law, since iirc the EU law only covered smartphones --- this lie is love and this lie is a gift to the world ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 10/26/23 4:13:31 PM #4: |
teep_ posted...
This goes even further than EU law, since iirc the EU law only covered smartphonesI know EU was discussing applying it to a wider range of devices, I don't know for sure if it actually happened. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/26/23 4:36:43 PM #5: |
What happens in maybe 10 years from now when USB D is released? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 4:37:44 PM #6: |
Rika_Furude posted...
What happens in maybe 10 years from now when USB D is released? This isn't to fight against USB A, B, D, Z, whatever. It's to fight against companies like Apple making their own proprietary cable. The Lightning Cable is dead (in some places, probably soon to be everywhere.) --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ai123 10/26/23 4:37:54 PM #7: |
Rika_Furude posted...
What happens in maybe 10 years from now when USB D is released?Once established it becomes the new standard. --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shishiwakamaru 10/26/23 4:38:05 PM #8: |
In the last two years so my number of devices that use USB C increased exponentially, so this is good news. USB C really is great
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Rexdragon125 10/26/23 4:43:05 PM #9: |
God USB-C is so shit Does this USB-C shaped cable charge only? Transfer data? Transfer data at a reasonable speed? Transfer video signal? Work with headphone adapters? Fuck these mystery cables ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 4:45:32 PM #10: |
Rexdragon125 posted...
God USB-C is so shit I mean, it's incredibly hard to buy a USB-C cable that can't transfer, charge, whatever. Though I feel like that's why you specified "USB-C 'shaped' cable." What are you even buying, exactly? You'd have to be buying some incredibly knock-off cables to get ones that can't transfer, in 2023, and even then, I think they're required to specifically be labeled as "Charging cables." --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/26/23 4:47:24 PM #11: |
StealThisSheen posted... I mean, it's incredibly hard to buy a USB-C cable that can't transfer, charge, whatever. Though I feel like that's why you specified "USB-C 'shaped' cable." What are you even buying, exactly? You'd have to be buying some knock-off cables to get ones that can't transfer, and even then, I think they're required to specifically be labeled as "Charging cables."Its mostly around whatever cables are included for free with stuff you buy since those are whats gonna end up laying around the place for use ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 4:49:49 PM #12: |
Rika_Furude posted...
Its mostly around whatever cables are included for free with stuff you buy since those are whats gonna end up laying around the place for use Actually, that does make sense, since those are typically going to be the lowest quality to save costs. Even then, though, that's still pretty rare now. It wasn't a few years ago, sure, but today, the cables are so cheap in general that the "good" ones tend to be included. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 10/26/23 4:58:30 PM #13: |
Some USB-C cables may or may not support HDMI or DisplayPort, it gets stupider the more I look it up ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 5:05:24 PM #14: |
Rexdragon125 posted...
Some USB-C cables may or may not support HDMI or DisplayPort, it gets stupider the more I look it up Yeah, but by "some," that basically means "Don't buy the $1 USB-C cable shipping from China." This was a greater concern years ago, but now it's just like... C'mon. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MatzoTov 10/26/23 5:14:25 PM #15: |
The only people against this are iDrones.
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CableZL 10/26/23 5:15:59 PM #16: |
Rexdragon125 posted...
God USB-C is so shit USB-C does all of those things and isn't a "mystery cable." USB-C is an open standard connector type. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thermador446 10/26/23 5:17:24 PM #17: |
USB-C is great compared to previous USB ports
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Jupiter 10/26/23 5:18:27 PM #18: |
Good on Germany for this.
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Trumble 10/26/23 5:21:44 PM #19: |
CableZL posted...
USB-C does all of those things and isn't a "mystery cable." USB-C is an open standard connector type.Some lower-quality USB-C cables don't support all of those things; that's what they're getting at. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 5:26:28 PM #20: |
CableZL posted...
USB-C does all of those things and isn't a "mystery cable." USB-C is an open standard connector type. He's right that some of the cheaper/low quality ones don't do transfer, for example. But... You can just tell, today. If it's a $1 cable from China vs. a $7 average for every other cable, you should logically realize something is fishy. And that's even true of Lightning/Thunderbolt/whatever Apple calls theirs, now. If it's too cheap and seems too good to be true... It is, in fact, too good to be true. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 10/26/23 5:28:07 PM #21: |
StealThisSheen posted...
He's right that some of the cheaper/low quality ones don't do transfer, for example. But... You can just tell, today. If it's a $1 cable from China vs. a $7 average for every other cable, you should logically realize something is fishy. Yeah, but that's the case with a lot of things that are super cheap. You can get a drone for like $70 that doesn't do all of the things that a $600 DJI drone does. You can get a TV for $200 that doesn't do all of the things that a $2500 TV does. That doesn't mean drones or TVs suck. It just means the cheap ones do. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frostshock 10/26/23 5:28:51 PM #22: |
Legislation like this is terrible for everyone. Thanks to the EU we're stuck on USB C for the foreseeable future.
It's a good connector, for now. If a better connector is developed it either needs to be backwards compatible or this legislation needs to be repealed before it can ever actually make it into a product. --- Got questions about schoolwork? Want to share answers, or discuss your studies? Come to Homework Helpers! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1060-homework-helpers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 5:29:46 PM #23: |
CableZL posted...
Yeah, but that's the case with a lot of things that are super cheap. You can get a drone for like $70 that doesn't do all of the things that a $600 DJI drone does. You can get a TV for $200 that doesn't do all of the things that a $2500 TV does. Oh, right, and that's my entire point, as I've been arguing in this topic. We agree. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 10/26/23 5:30:41 PM #24: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Oh, right, and that's my entire point, as I've been arguing in this topic. We agree. I was responding to RexDragon125's comments about USB-C. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 5:33:52 PM #25: |
CableZL posted...
I was responding to RexDragon125's comments about USB-C. Gotcha. I was just replying since you quoted me, to show we don't actually disagree. Carry on. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 10/26/23 5:35:05 PM #26: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Gotcha. I was just replying since you quoted me, to show we don't actually disagree. Carry on. I was replying to you because you quoted me! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 10/26/23 5:35:34 PM #27: |
Watches aren't going to play nice with this.
Almost everything is proprietary pogo pins. If it can't use a standard cable, it should at least be wireless. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 5:35:45 PM #28: |
CableZL posted...
I was replying to you because you quoted me! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Did we just become best friends --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MatzoTov 10/26/23 5:37:51 PM #29: |
YUP
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CableZL 10/26/23 5:38:14 PM #30: |
StealThisSheen posted...
Did we just become best friendsI think so --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 10/26/23 5:40:02 PM #31: |
Rika_Furude posted...
What happens in maybe 10 years from now when USB D is released? There's nothing you can do, you can never change things. --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 5:46:08 PM #32: |
CableZL posted...
I think so Something good came of this topic. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/26/23 5:46:40 PM #33: |
MatzoTov posted...
YUP Also, props for getting the reference. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teep_ 10/26/23 11:47:09 PM #34: |
Bump
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dj1200 10/27/23 3:20:25 AM #35: |
Rika_Furude posted...
What happens in maybe 10 years from now when USB D is released?I got that USB-D for the ladies. Ill get my coat --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/27/23 3:44:02 AM #36: |
dj1200 posted...
I got that USB-D for the ladies. B-Ds can be appreciated by more than just the ladies. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zwijn 10/27/23 4:24:00 AM #37: |
MatzoTov posted... The only people against this are iDrones.For some of us drones its about cable type. Im all for a standard, but I prefer the lightning form factor. Too late for that now though so gimme that USB-C. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rika_Furude 10/27/23 4:31:21 AM #38: |
I think at least early on there was an issue with power delivery as well. In that maybe some cables supported charging but not fully rated for 100W PD. Maybe thats also different these days years and years ago was when I bought a particular set of cables and I had to be very selective to be sure that they supported high speed data and 100W PD. As others mentioned it is probably better these days even for off-branded cables, but i doubt its a solved problem considering most people dont even buy cables and just use whatever comes packaged with what they buy I prefer buying higher end stuff myself, I do have quality cables laying around. But I do have cheaper shit as well and with those its a coin toss of what its cable supports. I have to remember where my good cables are and be sure not to lose them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 10/27/23 4:34:41 AM #39: |
Frostshock posted...
Legislation like this is terrible for everyone. Thanks to the EU we're stuck on USB C for the foreseeable future. I disagree. You know what's terrible for everyone? Needing to buy a different adapter and cable for every single piece of technology I own and summarily discarding anything that's more than 6 months old because it's obsolete. What an incredible environmental burden. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 10/27/23 6:42:35 AM #40: |
StealThisSheen posted...
This isn't to fight against USB A, B, D, Z, whatever. It's to fight against companies like Apple making their own proprietary cable. This right here. That's some anti-consumer bullshit if I ever saw it. --- Putin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rotterdammerung 10/27/23 6:43:42 AM #41: |
Does Germany still enforce green blood?
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