Current Events > Nintendo of Europe releases tournament guidelines.

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https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Legal-information/Community-Tournament-Guidelines-2467744.html

First came Nintendo of Japan, now Europe and people are expecting Nintendo of America to follow suit. There's been some doom and gloom among competitive smash players.

I gotta hand it to the competitive scene for smash. Nintendo constantly shits on them over and over again but they still play smash because they love it, even though they never get the actual support they deserve. Capcom and Arcs Systems go out of their way to help out the competitive scene for their fighters with big prize pools and everything. Nintendo Smash tournament first prize was literally a golden gamecube controller with a smash logo on it.

Eh, most of this seems reasonable. Not being able to use relevant characters to promote a tournament is definitely a bit much, but let's be honest, the most contemptuous terms are definitely the ones that basically disallow mods & roms, & forbid this from ever becoming a "for profit" venue.

do the guidelines require tournament participants to shower

Nintendo must be terrified of how they'll lose control of smash the moment they remaster melee or release it on the virtual console.

I can see not promoting that this is an official Nintendo event or using Nintendo characters to advertise, but how can they really legally stop anyone from holding a tournament? I just don't get it. Is this a terms of use thing they're trying to enforce? Does it really break copyright to stream matches?

Starks posted...

Nintendo must be terrified of how they'll lose control of smash the moment they remaster melee or release it on the virtual console.

Neither of which is likely to ever happen. Like every Mario Kart that isn't Double Dash, there's little practical reason for Nintendo to remaster a specific Smash game, & Nintendo has never directly put any Gamecube game on their digital services, so far; the Wii U eShop had Wii games, but still no GC.

that p much kills the competitive smash scene if they're heavily enforcing this

fuck nintendo man

Delirious_Beard posted...

that p much kills the competitive smash scene if they're heavily enforcing this

fuck nintendo man

I'm surprised it's survived that pedo ring scandal, as well as it did.

Bass posted...

I can see not promoting that this is an official Nintendo event or using Nintendo characters to advertise, but how can they really legally stop anyone from holding a tournament? I just don't get it. Is this a terms of use thing they're trying to enforce? Does it really break copyright to stream matches?

They can't legally stop a tournament from happening but they can legally stop marketing and broadcasting of that tournament.

Could someone tell me why capping the size of registration fees is a big deal?

Also, fuck the competitive Smash community. I can't blame Nintendo for not wanting anything to do with a bunch of pedos.

Can someone explain why this is bad in non FGC language?

Only Nintendo can get away with telling their fans not to enjoy their game. Backwards ass company

I imagine this would only apply to stuff like Evo or w/e. No way your local 20 man tournament is gonna care or follow this.

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

I imagine this would only apply to stuff like Evo or w/e. No way your local 20 man tournament is gonna care or follow this.

Evo doesn't qualify as a community tournament because of the size. They would need to get a contract. They've tried in the past and decided they're better off without it.

BurmesePenguin posted...

Can someone explain why this is bad in non FGC language?

Need to disclose expenses, cap on prizes, & no sponsors means Nintendo tournaments aren't a road to big money. No money means less players interested & less funding to support those who do show up.

Nintendo once again being out-of-touch.

Starks posted...

Nintendo must be terrified of how they'll lose control of smash the moment they remaster melee or release it on the virtual console.

You're overstating how much of an impact a Melee rerelease will have in the grand scheme of things. The vast majority of players especially casuals are not going to buy or invest in Melee when Ultimate or the next Smash game--both of which have and will have much more content in them--are around.

VGAddict90 posted...

Could someone tell me why capping the size of registration fees is a big deal?

Also, fuck the competitive Smash community. I can't blame Nintendo for not wanting anything to do with a bunch of pedos.

You realize that all of those bad actors were exposed and expelled from the community, right?

darkbuster posted...

Neither of which is likely to ever happen. Like every Mario Kart that isn't Double Dash, there's little practical reason for Nintendo to remaster a specific Smash game, & Nintendo has never directly put any Gamecube game on their digital services, so far; the Wii U eShop had Wii games, but still no GC.

If it's not going to be the switch, then the switch 2 would be the time to release GameCube games.

If Nintendo wants to offset by a couple generations, that's fine, but they'll have to do it eventually. There's no way they can vault this game until the end of time.

this should encourage developers to create a game on par with Smash.

unlike the ones that have been released here recently.

project L cant drop soon enough

Starks posted...

If it's not going to be the switch, then the switch 2 would be the time to release GameCube games.

If Nintendo wants to offset by a couple generations, that's fine, but they'll have to do it eventually. There's no way they can vault this game until the end of time.

The Wii U had Wii & DS games. I've always suspected the GC had something to do with no other Nintendo system having analog triggers, even though Luigi's Mansion & Super Mario Sunshine are probably the only games where they truly matter (& have versions without it anyway), but whatever the reason, it's definitely more than "offset", especially when the GC is currently 3 generations from the Switch.

Meh if Nintendo doesn't wat to do tourneys that's on them...

Only ones who be affected are FGC guys like tournament players or Max Dood...

Is there a cleanliness clause?

WalkingPlague posted...

project L cant drop soon enough

lol, are anyone but LoL players excited for this? It isn't remotely close to Smash, though, it plays more like MvC. So expecting it to bleed players from Smash is silly.

WalkingPlague posted...

this should encourage developers to create a game on par with Smash.

unlike the ones that have been released here recently.

project L cant drop soon enough

Developers big & small, have been trying to topple/clone Nintendo's flagship IPs for years. Sonic is by far the most successful attempt, to date. For Smash specifically, the IP breadth alone, makes the barrier to entry extremely high; Warner Bros, Sony, & Nickelodeon have all tried, & none have succeeded. I suppose Disney has never attempted a Smash clone, but can you seriously see Disney allowing Aladdin to smash Mickey's face in, in a semi serious tone?

CyborgSage00x0 posted...

are anyone but LoL players excited for this?

I'm pretty excited for it, and I don't know anything about League

Youtube lawyer man delivers take on the issue

https://youtu.be/Exm8xCSQ9AY?si=RVX4os7tySny8s9O

i haven't looked into this and don't know what this means, but 99% of tournaments have not been nintendo sponsored. in fact they're notable for not sponsoring tournaments or supporting the smash community, so why does nintendo have any guidelines at all, and why does anyone care about them?

Prestoff posted...

I gotta hand it to the competitive scene for smash. Nintendo constantly shits on them over and over again but they still play smash because they love it, even though they never get the actual support they deserve. Capcom and Arcs Systems go out of their way to help out the competitive scene for their fighters with big prize pools and everything. Nintendo Smash tournament first prize was literally a golden gamecube controller with a smash logo on it.

Replace Nintendo shitting on them with the community shitting on themselves there.

Nerds shouldn't make money off smash anyways tbh

lilORANG posted...

Nerds shouldn't make money off smash anyways tbh

Or they should bathe so that guidelines wouldnt be a thing

NeonTentacles posted...

Is there a cleanliness clause?

I checked for the words, hygiene, bathe, shower and none appeared.

Godnorgosh posted...

Not explicitly, they just went ahead and banned everyone with boob avatars to keep it simple

Nintendo is Sony now?

Tournaments may include up to 200 Participants for in-person tournaments or up to 300 Participants for online tournaments.

There goes majors for Melee.

pojr posted...

i haven't looked into this and don't know what this means, but 99% of tournaments have not been nintendo sponsored. in fact they're notable for not sponsoring tournaments or supporting the smash community, so why does nintendo have any guidelines at all, and why does anyone care about them?

i realize after posting this that nintendo has the right to shut down any tournament they'd like.

pojr posted...

i realize after posting this that nintendo has the right to shut down any tournament they'd like.

They don't have a right to shut down something that uses a product of theirs people legally paid for.