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Stallion_Prime 10/19/23 11:23:18 AM #1: |
Being mario lol. 93 meta? Seriously? Wonder looks like the most wonder bread bland shit ever. Odyssey I get. That game was pretty cool. But this ?
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BurmesePenguin 10/19/23 11:23:59 AM #2: |
Stallion_Prime posted...
Wonder looks like the most wonder bread bland shit everYou made the topic just to say this line. --- Sigful User Logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hereforemnant 10/19/23 11:24:31 AM #3: |
BurmesePenguin posted...
You made the topic just to say this line.He's out of line but he's right --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revisited 10/19/23 11:25:34 AM #4: |
hereforemnant posted... He's out of line but he's right ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 10/19/23 11:25:35 AM #5: |
#allnintendogames
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BurmesePenguin 10/19/23 11:26:36 AM #6: |
hereforemnant posted...
He's out of line but he's rightNo, he's wrong. I've held the SMB Wonder case in my hand and I'd rate the experience 9/10. --- Sigful User Logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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faizan_faizan 10/19/23 11:27:12 AM #7: |
I agree. It looks like absolute trash. Like the NSMB but worse somehow.
I don't understand how the media and reviewers are so biased towards Nintendo. Is it decades upon decades of brand loyalty starting as a child? --- Allergic to bull****. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 10/19/23 11:27:28 AM #8: |
Imagine being baffled by the idea that a Mario game is good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/19/23 11:27:58 AM #9: |
Mario is a consistently high quality series but there are definitely people who just fanboy over it. Same with Zelda.
The other side of that coin is Sonic. The 3D games have a very inconsistent level of quality but many people just shit on it way too much. Especially when they claim "Sonic just doesn't work in 3D" because that's far easier and lazier than addressing the actual issues with the lesser games. Lairen posted... #allnintendogames Well, that is the common factor there... --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 10/19/23 11:28:00 AM #10: |
hereforemnant posted...
He's out of line but he's rightLmao no he's not. It looks fun as hell, which is exactly what I want from a Mario game. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarthGoomba 10/19/23 11:29:00 AM #11: |
Stallion_Prime posted...
Odyssey I getI don't Odyssey was so boring I never finished it --- https://i.imgur.com/m6Rgs8D.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qUMZhdW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/LACtH6q.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hereforemnant 10/19/23 11:29:51 AM #12: |
BurmesePenguin posted...
No, he's wrong. I've held the SMB Wonder case in my hand and I'd rate the experience 9/10.Odyssey & Mario Rabbids did something new to make an old genre new again by changing the gameplay & mechanics to make playing as Mario in a 30th game more interesting. Wonder is just another 6/10 2D Mario game with a new gimmick like pokemon that they'll abandon for the next game that does something slightly different. Before it was turning into cats while doing this, then it was the crown, now it's elephants, next it'll be some other gimmick people will forget about in a year. It's okay if you like Mario games, but don't spit down my throat & tell me it's not the same shit we've seen for a decade now. --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Stallion_Prime 10/19/23 11:30:03 AM #13: |
NoxObscuras posted...
Lmao no he's not. It looks fun as hell, which is exactly what I want from a Mario game.Even if a game is fun it CAN be under a 90 ffs. Wonder looks so damn safe --- -Hunter1534 http://abload.de/img/powercdkcb.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ushiromiya 10/19/23 11:30:08 AM #14: |
Stallion_Prime posted...
looks like --- http://i.imgur.com/11wM01O.gif https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7fjv4JkgBk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revisited 10/19/23 11:30:56 AM #15: |
hereforemnant posted... Odyssey & Mario Rabbids did something new to make an old genre new again by changing the gameplay & mechanics to make playing as Mario in a 30th game more interesting. Wonder is just another 6/10 2D Mario game with a new gimmick like pokemon that they'll abandon for the next game that does something slightly different. Before it was turning into cats while doing this, then it was the crown, now it's elephants, next it'll be some other gimmick people will forget about in a year.Crown? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VerisimiIitude 10/19/23 11:30:56 AM #16: |
Its crazy that no one here has played it but so many people have made up their minds about it.
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Torgo 10/19/23 11:30:57 AM #17: |
This is the mirror counterpart to the topic complaining that holy sacred Metacritic ONLY gave Super Mario Wonder a 93...
Metacritic is toxic to gaming, and it's not really Metacritic's fault... they're just a resource that represents a really flawed method to create a very basic snapshot impression of critical reception. The problem comes when people treat that single number derived from incompatible scoring systems that are subject to manipulation from bad actors and paid shills as a sacred and ultimate unassailable truth. Stop treating Metacritic like it's holy gospel! --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/19/23 11:30:58 AM #18: |
faizan_faizan posted...
Evidently, if the behavior of Nintendo fanboys is anything to go by. When you start harassing, death threatening, and DDOSing reviewers because they give a Mario or Zelda game less than 9/10 you've clearly got issues with your self-image. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 10/19/23 11:31:06 AM #19: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
The 3D games have a very inconsistent level of quality I disagree. It's very consistent. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 10/19/23 11:32:03 AM #20: |
hereforemnant posted... Odyssey & Mario Rabbids did something new to make an old genre new again by changing the gameplay & mechanics to make playing as Mario in a 30th game more interesting. Wonder is just another 6/10 2D Mario game with a new gimmick like pokemon that they'll abandon for the next game that does something slightly different. Before it was turning into cats while doing this, then it was the crown, now it's elephants, next it'll be some other gimmick people will forget about in a year. So you've played it? I assume you've played it with these very strong opinions about it. Also why have you let someone spit down your throat for a decade? Not to kink shame but that's weird man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 10/19/23 11:32:18 AM #21: |
Have you played it
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Torgo 10/19/23 11:32:34 AM #22: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
Evidently, if the behavior of Nintendo fanboys is anything to go by. When you start harassing, death threatening, and DDOSing reviewers because they give a Mario or Zelda game less than 9/10 you've clearly got issues with your self-image. Yes, unique to Nintendo fanboys, and not something like... Sony fanboys sending death and rape threats to voice actors on The Last of Us Two. --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/19/23 11:32:48 AM #23: |
Torgo posted...
This is the mirror counterpart to the topic complaining that holy sacred Metacritic ONLY gave Super Mario Wonder a 93... Overall I don't like summing up a complex opinion with a number. Especially since far too many people will just skip to that number instead of the possibly 1000+ words you spent justifying it. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 10/19/23 11:33:21 AM #24: |
Stallion_Prime posted...
Even if a game is fun it CAN be under a 90 ffs. Wonder looks so damn safeMy guy, you haven't even played it. Why are you so sure that it doesn't deserve a 90? --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 10/19/23 11:33:43 AM #25: |
It looks like the most effort they've put into a 2D Mario game since Yoshi's Island. The graphic style actually looks cool with the cartoon style instead of just the generic 3D models in NSMB, and the mechanics look interesting.
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hereforemnant 10/19/23 11:34:22 AM #26: |
Revisited posted...
Crown?https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Crown There's a transforming item gimmick for each of these games that people forget about the next time another one comes out. It's like pokemon throwing out mega evos for the gem shit in sword & shield, then before that it was combination forms. Mario games center around a specific gimmick in each of the 2D games that staples it all together, but the games do not inherently change the formula unless it's Rabbids or Odyssey --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SimulationSwarm 10/19/23 11:34:31 AM #27: |
Murphiroth posted...
Imagine being baffled by the idea that a Mario game is good.As someone that did not grow up with Mario - yes it does baffle me. I dont get the appeal of platformers --- Np: Big Thief - Simulation Swarm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 10/19/23 11:36:02 AM #28: |
The more I play it the more I realize its the same formula as other modern 2D Mario games but this time more kid friendly and designed to play it safe. Its a 7/10 without any bias.
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BakonBitz 10/19/23 11:37:07 AM #29: |
VerisimiIitude posted...
Its crazy that no one here has played it but so many people have made up their minds about it.I know right. Almost as if playing it is a difference from just watching pre-release footage. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C_Pain 10/19/23 11:37:56 AM #30: |
How would you know if you haven't played it? It also has a lot more soul compared to the New series based on the trailer imo.
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hereforemnant 10/19/23 11:38:01 AM #31: |
Murphiroth posted...
So you've played it? I assume you've played it with these very strong opinions about it.My 6 year old switch is struggling a bit by this point but yes I have "played" it. But I'm certainly not going to buy something generally I find I dislike then just live with the waste of money after the fact. You don't always have to buy & own a copy yourself to have an opinion on a product, because people will gatekeep your opinion behind it, then ignore your complaints after the fact even if you have forked over the cash to do so. 6/10 game, another gimmick Mario 2d platformer that I've grown tired of & Nintendo is far too anti-consumer for me to accept their BS as a whole from anymore. --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 10/19/23 11:39:11 AM #32: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
Overall I don't like summing up a complex opinion with a number. Especially since far too many people will just skip to that number instead of the possibly 1000+ words you spent justifying it. Yes, very much - it should be a snapshot or impression. Not only that, but it's just not a good system by the nature of what it's attempting to do. When a gaming site gives a game a 4 out of 5 for example... does that weight into the system as an 80... or a 99? Is a 5 out of 5 nearly impossible perfect 100 at that review site, or are they semi-frequent like an A on a letter grading system, and what are the analogues for letter grades? Is an "F" a 50 or 60 generally bad game like school grades, or is an F like a 25 total failure of a broken game? Then you have the paid shills and bad faith contrarians affecting the score with no way to know from looking at the "93" if all the weighted reviews well thoughtful and comprehensive or if some were paid for or done by garbage reviewers just to take it up and down a few points. --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 10/19/23 11:39:53 AM #33: |
hereforemnant posted...
My 6 year old switch is struggling a bit by this point but yes I have "played" it. But I'm certainly not going to buy something generally I find I dislike then just live with the waste of money after the fact. You don't always have to buy & own a copy yourself to have an opinion on a product The hell does this mean? --- Sigful User Logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hereforemnant 10/19/23 11:40:43 AM #34: |
BurmesePenguin posted...
The hell does this mean?I borrowed a copy --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 10/19/23 11:41:01 AM #35: |
People assuming others havent gotten their hands on the game before release are naive. Nintendo games get leaked all the time early. Switch is a big part of that. Id say more but probably get modded for something assumed lol.
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Torgo 10/19/23 11:41:43 AM #36: |
hereforemnant posted...
I borrowed a copy From your girlfriend in Canada that goes to a different school, I wouldn't know her? --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmbraceOfDeath 10/19/23 11:41:45 AM #37: |
Stallion_Prime posted...
Wonder looks so damn safeLmao this is either blatant trolling or you have seen literally zero footage of the game. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 10/19/23 11:42:28 AM #38: |
hereforemnant posted...
I borrowed a copyOf a game that isn't out? --- Sigful User Logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VerisimiIitude 10/19/23 11:42:29 AM #39: |
Im curious what could be changed about the game that would elevate it to a more deserved 9 for the people who have played. Barring a genre change mind you.
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Torgo 10/19/23 11:42:32 AM #40: |
--Zero- posted...
People assuming others havent gotten their hands on the game before release are naive. Nintendo games get leaked all the time early. Switch is a big part of that. Id say more but probably get modded for something assumed lol. Exactly - So funny people complaining about a game they pirated. --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hereforemnant 10/19/23 11:42:48 AM #41: |
Torgo posted...
From your girlfriend in Canada that goes to a different school, I wouldn't know her?Everybody & their mom has a switch lmao, you can't act like this is some hard to get a hold of object. But no my girlfriend is in another state right now & we mail each other games to play for a few bucks here & there --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 10/19/23 11:43:36 AM #42: |
hereforemnant posted...
Everybody & their mom has a switch lmao, you can't act like this is some hard to get a hold of object. But no my girlfriend is in another state right now & we mail each other games to play for a few bucks here & there You have amazing mail service in your region! --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VFalcone 10/19/23 11:43:58 AM #43: |
hereforemnant posted... https://www.mariowiki.com/Super_CrownTo be fair, that describes many popular and successful game franchises that can also be genuinely good. It's not necessarily a bad thing. Games where they have a formula and play style and the next additions are just the same thing with a new gimmick. Street Fighter, Tekken, Dead or Alive, Souls games, Monster Hunter, Mario Kart, CoD/MW, to name some.. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 10/19/23 11:44:54 AM #44: |
hereforemnant posted...
My 6 year old switch is struggling a bit by this point but yes I have "played" it. But I'm certainly not going to buy something generally I find I dislike then just live with the waste of money after the fact. You don't always have to buy & own a copy yourself to have an opinion on a product, because people will gatekeep your opinion behind it, then ignore your complaints after the fact even if you have forked over the cash to do so.You don't have to buy a game to decide it's not your type of game. I skip games I don't care for all the time. But all of the other stuff like saying it's a 6/10? Yeah, you should probably play the entire game before giving it an arbitrary score. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 10/19/23 11:45:04 AM #45: |
VFalcone posted...
To be fair, that describes many popular and successful game franchises that are can also be genuinely good. It's not necessarily a bad thing. Games where they have a formula and play style and the next additions are just the same thing with a new gimmick. I am so pissed the latest Forza game is almost all driving sports cars, just like the last ones... it's like all you do is drive and race cars! --- Moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder.09/2/23 Also moderated for not responding to obvious bait. - 10/03/23 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/19/23 11:46:10 AM #46: |
Torgo posted...
Not only that, but it's just not a good system by the nature of what it's attempting to do. When a gaming site gives a game a 4 out of 5 for example... does that weight into the system as an 80... or a 99? Is a 5 out of 5 nearly impossible perfect 100 at that review site, or are they semi-frequent like an A on a letter grading system, and what are the analogues for letter grades? Is an "F" a 50 or 60 generally bad game like school grades, or is an F like a 25 total failure of a broken game? That reminds me of the joke in Terminator 3, where Arnie's heads up display showed "casualties: 0.1." Besides being a joke based on the previous movie, does that mean ten 0.1 casualties add up to an actual casualty? And I know that isn't really what you were saying, but I'll try to make it relevant. If you rate a game via 50 points on a basis of 10/10 over 5 categories, if the game scores 40/50 because it gets 10/10 in music, graphics, etc. but 0 in a very important category (control) does that mean it's a good game overall - it scored 80% after all - or a horribly crippled one because it lost those 10 points in the most important category? How do we draw the line? Yes, I've been drinking. So I'm kinda rambling. I hope I've said something at least somewhat comprehensible. Probs not though. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hereforemnant 10/19/23 11:49:57 AM #47: |
VFalcone posted...
To be fair, that describes many popular and successful game franchises that are can also be genuinely good. It's not necessarily a bad thing. Games where they have a formula and play style and the next additions are just the same thing with a new gimmick.It does yes, & that's why for the same reasons I jumped off of CoD after Black Ops 2, got bored of MH for a fair bit of time after I'd done so much in World & jumped on Rise only once I got a steam deck two years after it launched & was on sale. Series' need to innovate over time & Mario doing a new gimmick for another platformer doesn't change up the formula enough for me. Look at wild hearts for instance which was a "we have monster hunter" at home meme. The unique building mechanic for fighting monsters, didn't ultimately save that game even though MH could do with competition. Partly because EA/Koei didn't want to invest in it, but also because it doesn't have name brand recognition to carry it. People in here shilling for Mario after people simply give their opinions proves that even if the games have gotten stale or too formulaic, given that it's Mario, or pokemon, or Zelda. Even if they don't change a lot of shit, that recognition gets it sales anyways. Conversations around Nintendo products usually end up being a waste of time because it's going to sell no matter what, & being a minority voice in it means people like Torgo will act as they do regardless, so letting it just be a circle jerk because the dogpile isn't worth the effort. --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrFingers07 10/19/23 11:50:14 AM #48: |
BurmesePenguin posted...
Of a game that isn't out?He most likely pirated the game, the ROM has been out for about 4ish days. Might have been leaked even earlier than that. --- :D Brawlin' Mains: R.O.B., Lucario, Pikachu, Wolf ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hereforemnant 10/19/23 11:51:26 AM #49: |
NoxObscuras posted...
You don't have to buy a game to decide it's not your type of game. I skip games I don't care for all the time.That didn't hold up with Starfield, or Diablo IV, or Redfall, Or Gollum, or that Kong game. Why should I or someone else waste our time playing the entire piece of shit if we don't like what the first 10 or 20 hours gave? My sunk cost falllacy ain't kicking in just because I'm forcing myself to keep going, it turned me off & that's that. Also there's literally people in this topic saying you can't have an opinion on the game unless you personally drove to the store, paid 59.99$ plus tax, played it for 20 hours, then prayed to allah lmao --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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