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K181 10/23/23 5:40:18 PM #251:	That seems nonsensical to punish the people that voted for the losing candidate, especially in a circumstance where voting for Gym would've been an objectively awful decision. And if the expectation is for them to toe the party line or cross the aisle, the number of times a legislator crossed party lines to vote for another party's speaker candidate was extremely limited even in saner times. That's just advocating for Speaker Gym on the first or second ballot. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:976821621] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>That seems nonsensical to punish the people that voted for the losing candidate, especially in a circumstance where voting for Gym would've been an objectively awful decision. And if the expectation is for them to toe the party line or cross the aisle, the number of times a legislator crossed party lines to vote for another party's speaker candidate was extremely limited even in saner times. That's just advocating for Speaker Gym on the first or second ballot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 10/23/23 5:57:49 PM #252:	Rep. Dan Meuser (R-Pa.) nodded to the greater conference dynamics in a Sunday letter announcing his bid. Throughout my life, I have been a fervent proponent for teamwork and the greater good over individual gain, Meuser said. How can a republican say this shit with a straight face? --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:976821892] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote><quote>Rep. Dan Meuser (R-Pa.) nodded to the greater conference dynamics in a Sunday letter announcing his bid.Throughout my life, I have been a fervent proponent for teamwork and the greater good over individual gain, Meuser said.</quote>How can a republican say this shit with a straight face? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inohira 10/23/23 6:10:12 PM #253:	K181 posted... That seems nonsensical to punish the people that voted for the losing candidate, especially in a circumstance where voting for Gym would've been an objectively awful decision. Why? The Republican base wanted Jordan. A party's supposed to represent voters, not some notion of objective good. The Freedom Caucus didn't want McCarthy, but he negotiated with them and they eventually caved and let him in. Jordan tried to negotiate with the institutional GOP, but they straight up ignored him. That's directly obstructing the selection of a Speaker. They are thus a prime cause of the House's dysfunction. The reality is that any Speaker would be heavily restrained by the clause that any one Congressman can file a motion to vacate. They don't really have the freedom to go crazy. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed <cite>Inohira posted [p:976822077] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted...</cite><quote>That seems nonsensical to punish the people that voted for the losing candidate, especially in a circumstance where voting for Gym would've been an objectively awful decision.</quote>Why? The Republican base wanted Jordan. A party's supposed to represent voters, not some notion of objective good.The Freedom Caucus didn't want McCarthy, but he negotiated with them and they eventually caved and let him in. Jordan tried to negotiate with the institutional GOP, but they straight up ignored him. That's directly obstructing the selection of a Speaker. They are thus a prime cause of the House's dysfunction.The reality is that any Speaker would be heavily restrained by the clause that any one Congressman can file a motion to vacate. They don't really have the freedom to go crazy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 10/23/23 6:10:32 PM #254:	loafy013 posted... How can a republican say this shit with a straight face? Sounds pretty socialist to me, ngl --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:976822083] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>loafy013 posted... </cite><quote>How can a republican say this shit with a straight face?</quote>Sounds pretty socialist to me, ngl </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/23/23 6:13:46 PM #255:	shadow_dreamer posted... Do people really not understand that a rule like this would change nothing? Very few of the reps are living paycheck to paycheck or even care that much about the ~170k salary, and any that did become financially troubled by this would immediately find themselves with dozens of lobbyists offering to help them out. Compensation and Lobbying need to be reworked from the ground up (and should be) before anything like this would remotely effect anything. I agree, but it's also fucking bs that they literally do nothing and get a paycheck and all their benefits. They've spent all but like 3 days of the past 2.5 weeks on vacation. K181 posted... That seems nonsensical to punish the people that voted for the losing candidate, especially in a circumstance where voting for Gym would've been an objectively awful decision. ...Did you not realize that future Speaker Hakeem Jeffries had the most votes every single time thus far since McCarthy got booted? K181 posted... And if the expectation is for them to toe the party line or cross the aisle, the number of times a legislator crossed party lines to vote for another party's speaker candidate was extremely limited even in saner times. That's just advocating for Speaker Gym on the first or second ballot. I don't see current Republicans being able to work together enough to even scrape together 213 votes so they can have the "moral victory" of surpassing Jeffries. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:976822140] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>shadow_dreamer posted... </cite><quote>Do people really not understand that a rule like this would change nothing? Very few of the reps are living paycheck to paycheck or even care that much about the ~170k salary, and any that did become financially troubled by this would immediately find themselves with dozens of lobbyists offering to help them out. Compensation and Lobbying need to be reworked from the ground up (and should be) before anything like this would remotely effect anything.</quote>I agree, but it's also fucking bs that they literally do nothing and get a paycheck and all their benefits. They've spent all but like 3 days of the past 2.5 weeks on vacation.K181 posted... </cite><quote>That seems nonsensical to punish the people that voted for the losing candidate, especially in a circumstance where voting for Gym would've been an objectively awful decision.</quote>...Did you not realize that future Speaker Hakeem Jeffries had the most votes every single time thus far since McCarthy got booted?K181 posted... </cite><quote>And if the expectation is for them to toe the party line or cross the aisle, the number of times a legislator crossed party lines to vote for another party's speaker candidate was extremely limited even in saner times. That's just advocating for Speaker Gym on the first or second ballot.</quote>I don't see current Republicans being able to work together enough to even scrape together 213 votes so they can have the "moral victory" of surpassing Jeffries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 10/23/23 6:33:54 PM #256:	Inohira posted... Why? The Republican base wanted Jordan. A party's supposed to represent voters, not some notion of objective good. The Freedom Caucus didn't want McCarthy, but he negotiated with them and they eventually caved and let him in. Jordan tried to negotiate with the institutional GOP, but they straight up ignored him. That's directly obstructing the selection of a Speaker. They are thus a prime cause of the House's dysfunction. The reality is that any Speaker would be heavily restrained by the clause that any one Congressman can file a motion to vacate. They don't really have the freedom to go crazy. The "Republican base" isn't a monolithic hive mind. The notion that all members are duty-bound to support one douche is nonsensical, especially when the GOP candidate has as much baggage as Gym and that he has absolutely zero track record of leading in the House to pass so much as a fart. There might be a case if he was the minority leader and speaker-designate if an election went a certain way, but that's clearly not the case here. And all the more weird to bring up when the GOP spent two years reveling in two Dem Senators bucking the party line in the Senate. streamofthesky posted... I agree, but it's also fucking bs that they literally do nothing and get a paycheck and all their benefits. They've spent all but like 3 days of the past 2.5 weeks on vacation. ...Did you not realize that future Speaker Hakeem Jeffries had the most votes every single time thus far since McCarthy got booted? I don't see current Republicans being able to work together enough to even scrape together 213 votes so they can have the "moral victory" of surpassing Jeffries. Yes, I'm aware, but it the only options were Gym, Jeffries, or financial punishment, the GOP contrarians would've supported Gym, not Jeffries. And it's all about getting a majority. Anyone getting a plurality is meaningless with that in mind. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:976822437] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Inohira posted... </cite><quote>Why? The Republican base wanted Jordan. A party's supposed to represent voters, not some notion of objective good.The Freedom Caucus didn't want McCarthy, but he negotiated with them and they eventually caved and let him in. Jordan tried to negotiate with the institutional GOP, but they straight up ignored him. That's directly obstructing the selection of a Speaker. They are thus a prime cause of the House's dysfunction.The reality is that any Speaker would be heavily restrained by the clause that any one Congressman can file a motion to vacate. They don't really have the freedom to go crazy.</quote>The "Republican base" isn't a monolithic hive mind. The notion that all members are duty-bound to support one douche is nonsensical, especially when the GOP candidate has as much baggage as Gym and that he has absolutely zero track record of leading in the House to pass so much as a fart. There might be a case if he was the minority leader and speaker-designate if an election went a certain way, but that's clearly not the case here.And all the more weird to bring up when the GOP spent two years reveling in two Dem Senators bucking the party line in the Senate.streamofthesky posted... </cite><quote>I agree, but it's also fucking bs that they literally do nothing and get a paycheck and all their benefits. They've spent all but like 3 days of the past 2.5 weeks on vacation....Did you not realize that future Speaker Hakeem Jeffries had the most votes every single time thus far since McCarthy got booted?I don't see current Republicans being able to work together enough to even scrape together 213 votes so they can have the "moral victory" of surpassing Jeffries.</quote>Yes, I'm aware, but it the only options were Gym, Jeffries, or financial punishment, the GOP contrarians would've supported Gym, not Jeffries.And it's all about getting a majority. Anyone getting a plurality is meaningless with that in mind. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inohira 10/23/23 7:41:36 PM #257:	K181 posted... And all the more weird to bring up when the GOP spent two years reveling in two Dem Senators bucking the party line in the Senate. Not particularly relevant how the other party reacts. Manchin and Sinema are pathetic traitors who're getting a boot to the ass in 2024 for it. Politicians are elected to advance the party agenda, not sink it. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed <cite>Inohira posted [p:976823442] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted...</cite><quote>And all the more weird to bring up when the GOP spent two years reveling in two Dem Senators bucking the party line in the Senate.</quote>Not particularly relevant how the other party reacts. Manchin and Sinema are pathetic traitors who're getting a boot to the ass in 2024 for it. Politicians are elected to advance the party agenda, not sink it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 10/23/23 9:05:36 PM #258:	loafy013 posted... How can a republican say this shit with a straight face? Shamelessly. Inohira posted... Jordan tried to negotiate with the institutional GOP, but they straight up ignored him. That's directly obstructing the selection of a Speaker. They are thus a prime cause of the House's dysfunction. The guys opposing Trump's attack dog are not the problem here. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:976824967] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>loafy013 posted... </cite><quote>How can a republican say this shit with a straight face?</quote>Shamelessly.Inohira posted... </cite><quote>Jordan tried to negotiate with the institutional GOP, but they straight up ignored him. That's directly obstructing the selection of a Speaker. They are thus a prime cause of the House's dysfunction.</quote>The guys opposing Trump's attack dog are not the problem here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/23/23 9:22:41 PM #259:	https://Twitter.com/mkraju/status/1716615022426665050?s=46 --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976825276] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>https://Twitter.com/mkraju/status/1716615022426665050?s=46 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 10/23/23 9:24:40 PM #260:	Coalition gambit time --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:976825309] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Coalition gambit time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chadawah 10/23/23 9:34:27 PM #261:	I'm surprised some didn't vote for the Dem already. Either out of spite, or wanting to get the country working. They could tell their voters "we need a functioning government," or "better than us doing nothing. At least I'm trying to keep us alive." <cite>Chadawah posted [p:976825507] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised some didn't vote for the Dem already. Either out of spite, or wanting to get the country working. They could tell their voters "we need a functioning government," or "better than us doing nothing. At least I'm trying to keep us alive."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 10/23/23 9:47:59 PM #262:	Chadawah posted... I'm surprised some didn't vote for the Dem already. Either out of spite, or wanting to get the country working. They could tell their voters "we need a functioning government," or "better than us doing nothing. At least I'm trying to keep us alive." Most republican voters would rather the country go down in flames than have any democrat in power --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:976825721] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Chadawah posted... </cite><quote>I'm surprised some didn't vote for the Dem already. Either out of spite, or wanting to get the country working. They could tell their voters "we need a functioning government," or "better than us doing nothing. At least I'm trying to keep us alive."</quote>Most republican voters would rather the country go down in flames than have any democrat in power </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/23/23 10:29:37 PM #263:	CableZL posted... https://Twitter.com/mkraju/status/1716615022426665050?s=46 Some fear if they cant this time, more Rs will want to cut a deal with Dems to reopen House. The horror! A bipartisan deal in an almost perfectly evenly split House? Oh no! Our way or the highway! Chadawah posted... I'm surprised some didn't vote for the Dem already. Either out of spite, or wanting to get the country working. They could tell their voters "we need a functioning government," or "better than us doing nothing. At least I'm trying to keep us alive." Bruh, did you not see all the death threats they got from their own base merely for not voting for Jordan? Imagine if some Reps actually voted for a Dem, how that unhinged base would react. It'd be nice, but it's not happening. I think they're legit afraid for their lives if they did that. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:976826378] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote><quote>CableZL posted... </cite>https://Twitter.com/mkraju/status/1716615022426665050?s=46Some fear if they cant this time, more Rs will want to cut a deal with Dems to reopen House.</quote>The horror! A bipartisan deal in an almost perfectly evenly split House? Oh no! Our way or the highway!Chadawah posted... </cite><quote>I'm surprised some didn't vote for the Dem already. Either out of spite, or wanting to get the country working. They could tell their voters "we need a functioning government," or "better than us doing nothing. At least I'm trying to keep us alive."</quote>Bruh, did you not see all the death threats they got from their own base merely for not voting for Jordan?Imagine if some Reps actually voted for a Dem, how that unhinged base would react.It'd be nice, but it's not happening. I think they're legit afraid for their lives if they did that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
realnifty1 10/24/23 12:30:04 AM #264:	streamofthesky posted... Bruh, did you not see all the death threats they got from their own base merely for not voting for Jordan? Imagine if some Reps actually voted for a Dem, how that unhinged base would react. It'd be nice, but it's not happening. I think they're legit afraid for their lives if they did that. Yeah, no R is voting for a D here, it would be a literal life risking proposition. And I don't think there is any R that the D's would trust to follow through on any concessions made verbally to them, so I think we are likely stuck with the R's having to figure it out and get everyone in line. Only other out I could see is if the shutdown is going with no end in sight the D's just pick the least reprehensible R in the pool and push them over the line. <cite>realnifty1 posted [p:976828185] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted... </cite><quote>Bruh, did you not see all the death threats they got from their own base merely for not voting for Jordan?Imagine if some Reps actually voted for a Dem, how that unhinged base would react.It'd be nice, but it's not happening. I think they're legit afraid for their lives if they did that.</quote>Yeah, no R is voting for a D here, it would be a literal life risking proposition. And I don't think there is any R that the D's would trust to follow through on any concessions made verbally to them, so I think we are likely stuck with the R's having to figure it out and get everyone in line.Only other out I could see is if the shutdown is going with no end in sight the D's just pick the least reprehensible R in the pool and push them over the line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 10/24/23 12:51:10 AM #265:	Former and possibly future Speaker candidate Gym Jordan: https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1716597046453354598?s=20 --- not a lot, just forever <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:976828433] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Former and possibly future Speaker candidate Gym Jordan:https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1716597046453354598?s=20 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 10/24/23 1:01:20 AM #266:	McSame_as_Bush posted... Former and possibly future Speaker candidate Gym Jordan: https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1716597046453354598?s=20 Is Biden doing a better job at securing our borders? Does his leadership inspire those in the DHS to be more vigilant? Does his presidency agitate terrorists to the point they're getting sloppy? In what way am I supposed to read that as a strike against Biden? <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:976828516] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite><quote>Former and possibly future Speaker candidate Gym Jordan:https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1716597046453354598?s=20</quote>Is Biden doing a better job at securing our borders? Does his leadership inspire those in the DHS to be more vigilant? Does his presidency agitate terrorists to the point they're getting sloppy? In what way am I supposed to read that as a strike against Biden?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tora_Sami 10/24/23 1:04:13 AM #267:	darkace77450 posted... Is Biden doing a better job at securing our borders? Does his leadership inspire those in the DHS to be more vigilant? Does his presidency agitate terrorists to the point they're getting sloppy? In what way am I supposed to read that as a strike against Biden? Duh dur more terrorist activity donal trump world piece - MAGA Cultists https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/7/AAfRzvAAE97n.jpg --- Asus E-gaming z490 \| 10700k \| DDR4 32gb 3200mhz \| Asus TUF 3080ti \| 1000 watt \| Corsair H100i 240 \| G7 Odyssey 32" \| Orion Spark \| Proteus Core <cite>Tora_Sami posted [p:976828543] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>Is Biden doing a better job at securing our borders? Does his leadership inspire those in the DHS to be more vigilant? Does his presidency agitate terrorists to the point they're getting sloppy? In what way am I supposed to read that as a strike against Biden?</quote>Duh dur more terrorist activity donal trump world piece - MAGA Cultistshttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/7/AAfRzvAAE97n.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inohira 10/24/23 2:14:15 AM #268:	https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna121673 Rep. Mike Flood, R-Neb., said all of the candidates signed his unity pledge, which is a promise to support whoever the conference nominates once there's a floor vote for speaker. Members have been far more divided over whether they will sign the pledge, however. So basically useless. --- 1 line break(s), 121 characters allowed <cite>Inohira posted [p:976829085] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna121673<quote>Rep. Mike Flood, R-Neb., said all of the candidates signed his unity pledge, which is a promise to support whoever the conference nominates once there's a floor vote for speaker.Members have been far more divided over whether they will sign the pledge, however.</quote>So basically useless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/24/23 2:37:59 AM #269:	Inohira posted... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna121673 So basically useless. God, he must be one of those people that wants to hold a "pre-meeting" meeting. Except, the conference effectively already is a pre-meeting. So he wants people to agree to a pre-pre-meeting (accept the winner of the conference before it happens) for the pre-meeting (the conference) of the meeting (the actual fucking Speaker vote). Did I capture all that correctly? <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:976829244] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Inohira posted... </cite><quote>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/live-blog/rcna121673So basically useless.</quote>God, he must be one of those people that wants to hold a "pre-meeting" meeting.Except, the conference effectively already is a pre-meeting.So he wants people to agree to a pre-pre-meeting (accept the winner of the conference before it happens) for the pre-meeting (the conference) of the meeting (the actual fucking Speaker vote).Did I capture all that correctly?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 10/24/23 8:58:18 AM #270:	So do Republicans get a speaker today? --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:976831740] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>So do Republicans get a speaker today? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnrivaledKoopa 10/24/23 9:04:35 AM #271:	Sounds unlikely that they will ever get the two Republican parties to agree --- I never wanted to be a serial killer, anyway. I wanted to be... a LUMBERJACK! - Dexter Morgan <cite>UnrivaledKoopa posted [p:976831819] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Sounds unlikely that they will ever get the two Republican parties to agree </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alucard188 10/24/23 9:20:42 AM #273:	All the while facing imminent government shut down over spending because they don't have a speaker to ratify any spending bill. I hope the public is paying attention. This is what your elected officials are doing. Republicans can't even get their shit together to rally behind one person that isn't Donald Trump. This is the state of their party. It's pathetic. If they had any self-awareness, they would be ashamed of themselves. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:976831997] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>All the while facing imminent government shut down over spending because they don't have a speaker to ratify any spending bill. I hope the public is paying attention. This is what your elected officials are doing. Republicans can't even get their shit together to rally behind one person that isn't Donald Trump. This is the state of their party. It's pathetic. If they had any self-awareness, they would be ashamed of themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
littlebro07 10/24/23 9:25:43 AM #274:	Remember when the GOP had the presidency, the house, and the senate and they couldnt even get rid of the affordable care act which theyd been saying they would do for nearly a decade? hell other than tax cuts for the rich did they even really accomplish anything major in those two years? --- https://i.imgtc.com/MGGa6Os.gif <cite>littlebro07 posted [p:976832055] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Remember when the GOP had the presidency, the house, and the senate and they couldnt even get rid of the affordable care act which theyd been saying they would do for nearly a decade? hell other than tax cuts for the rich did they even really accomplish anything major in those two years? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xenogears15 10/24/23 9:41:16 AM #276:	GranolaPanic posted... Republicans want a shutdown. Matt Gaetzs entire reason for removing McCarthy was over his working with Democrats to make a deal. The GOP thinks the public will blame the Democrats for a shutdown. And unfortunately theyre probably right. Nah, I disagree this time. It's too obvious who the clowns are this time. Even GOP voters are saying as much. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:976832224] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>GranolaPanic posted... </cite><quote>Republicans want a shutdown. Matt Gaetzs entire reason for removing McCarthy was over his working with Democrats to make a deal.The GOP thinks the public will blame the Democrats for a shutdown. And unfortunately theyre probably right.</quote>Nah, I disagree this time. It's too obvious who the clowns are this time. Even GOP voters are saying as much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 10/24/23 10:09:18 AM #277:	Xenogears15 posted... Nah, I disagree this time. It's too obvious who the clowns are this time. Even GOP voters are saying as much. Yea but that will change when the shutdown actually happens and Fox rolls out their "blame the dems" 24/7 propaganda --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976832618] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>Nah, I disagree this time. It's too obvious who the clowns are this time. Even GOP voters are saying as much.</quote>Yea but that will change when the shutdown actually happens and Fox rolls out their "blame the dems" 24/7 propaganda </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 10/24/23 10:11:11 AM #278:	No vote today? Looks like they're still going through de-facto elimination rounds of secret ballots. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:976832641] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>No vote today? Looks like they're still going through de-facto elimination rounds of secret ballots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/24/23 10:11:41 AM #279:	Xenogears15 posted... Nah, I disagree this time. It's too obvious who the clowns are this time. Trump has been a clown for 20 years and his immense popularity is what caused all this --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:976832647] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>Nah, I disagree this time. It's too obvious who the clowns are this time.</quote>Trump has been a clown for 20 years and his immense popularity is what caused all this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 10/24/23 10:13:18 AM #280:	GranolaPanic posted... Republicans want a shutdown. Matt Gaetzs entire reason for removing McCarthy was over his working with Democrats to make a deal. The GOP thinks the public will blame the Democrats for a shutdown. And unfortunately theyre probably right. None of their past shutdowns has resulted in any sort of win for them. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:976832667] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>GranolaPanic posted... </cite><quote>Republicans want a shutdown. Matt Gaetzs entire reason for removing McCarthy was over his working with Democrats to make a deal.The GOP thinks the public will blame the Democrats for a shutdown. And unfortunately theyre probably right.</quote>None of their past shutdowns has resulted in any sort of win for them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 10/24/23 10:34:13 AM #281:	https://twitter.com/RepSantosNY03/status/1716824894900740298?t=xqwsGxJ93s1hQyuC2BmFOg&s=19 Is this supposed to be private? --- not a lot, just forever <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:976832929] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/RepSantosNY03/status/1716824894900740298?t=xqwsGxJ93s1hQyuC2BmFOg&s=19Is this supposed to be private? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/24/23 10:35:03 AM #282:	Anyone who votes present is a coward --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:976832941] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Anyone who votes present is a coward </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/24/23 10:36:04 AM #283:	https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1716825140439515570 They're having multiple internal votes? They're never going to elect a speaker --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976832953] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1716825140439515570They're having multiple internal votes?They're never going to elect a speaker </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lillymon 10/24/23 10:36:27 AM #284:	McSame_as_Bush posted... https://twitter.com/RepSantosNY03/status/1716824894900740298?t=xqwsGxJ93s1hQyuC2BmFOg&s=19 Is this supposed to be private? George Santos doesn't think the law applies to him. You think he'd be bothered by some stupid party rule? --- "Bothering people when they're shopping or going to work or whatever because you find them attractive makes you scum of the earth." MegatokyoEd <cite>Lillymon posted [p:976832956] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/RepSantosNY03/status/1716824894900740298?t=xqwsGxJ93s1hQyuC2BmFOg&s=19Is this supposed to be private?</quote>George Santos doesn't think the law applies to him. You think he'd be bothered by some stupid party rule? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 10/24/23 10:39:27 AM #285:	Donalds getting 3rd place in this race is a joke even by GOP circus standards. Dude's a barely-functioning AI trained exclusively on rightwing buzzwords. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:976833016] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Donalds getting 3rd place in this race is a joke even by GOP circus standards. Dude's a barely-functioning AI trained exclusively on rightwing buzzwords. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 10/24/23 10:39:28 AM #286:	Shadow_Don posted... Yea but that will change when the shutdown actually happens and Fox rolls out their "blame the dems" 24/7 propaganda I'm honestly not worried about the GOP voters, though. They gonna do what they gonna do. My point is about the "moderates": if the GOP voters see just how clownish this whole debacle is, then "moderates" will likely see the same, if not worse. They are also less likely to be swayed by Fox News propaganda, especially if they watch other networks. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:976833018] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>Yea but that will change when the shutdown actually happens and Fox rolls out their "blame the dems" 24/7 propaganda</quote>I'm honestly not worried about the GOP voters, though. They gonna do what they gonna do. My point is about the "moderates": if the GOP voters see just how clownish this whole debacle is, then "moderates" will likely see the same, if not worse. They are also less likely to be swayed by Fox News propaganda, especially if they watch other networks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/24/23 10:43:07 AM #287:	UnfairRepresent posted... Anyone who votes present is a coward Disagree. Voting Present would be stunning and brave and get us Speaker Jeffries <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:976833082] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite><quote>Anyone who votes present is a coward</quote>Disagree.Voting Present would be stunning and brave and get us Speaker Jeffries</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 10/24/23 10:51:35 AM #288:	masterpug53 posted... Donalds getting 3rd place in this race is a joke even by GOP circus standards. Dude's a barely-functioning AI trained exclusively on rightwing buzzwords. And he's been in Congress for two seconds. The "theory" that I've seen is that all the never-Jordan will vote for Donalds so they don't seem racist. --- not a lot, just forever <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:976833208] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>masterpug53 posted...</cite><quote>Donalds getting 3rd place in this race is a joke even by GOP circus standards. Dude's a barely-functioning AI trained exclusively on rightwing buzzwords.</quote>And he's been in Congress for two seconds. The "theory" that I've seen is that all the never-Jordan will vote for Donalds so they don't seem racist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 10/24/23 10:54:54 AM #289:	I'm surprised none of them put Trump up for Speakership. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:976833261] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised none of them put Trump up for Speakership. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/24/23 10:55:48 AM #290:	https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1716830566224724091 ? What is changing from moment to moment to cause such a different? --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976833276] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1716830566224724091? What is changing from moment to moment to cause such a different? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 10/24/23 10:56:54 AM #291:	Candidates are dropping out --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:976833293] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Candidates are dropping out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/24/23 10:57:51 AM #292:	Starks posted... Candidates are dropping out Ah, you're right --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976833308] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Starks posted... </cite><quote>Candidates are dropping out</quote>Ah, you're right </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tora_Sami 10/24/23 10:58:03 AM #293:	So who exactly is emmer? Are they a crazy maga or centrist? --- Asus E-gaming z490 \| 10700k \| DDR4 32gb 3200mhz \| Asus TUF 3080ti \| 1000 watt \| Corsair H100i 240 \| G7 Odyssey 32" \| Orion Spark \| Proteus Core <cite>Tora_Sami posted [p:976833310] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>So who exactly is emmer? Are they a crazy maga or centrist? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 10/24/23 10:59:16 AM #294:	He's the most moderate candidate the GOP is offering up and he's already in leadership. For that alone, he is expected to fail. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:976833324] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>He's the most moderate candidate the GOP is offering up and he's already in leadership.For that alone, he is expected to fail. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 10/24/23 11:04:29 AM #295:	Starks posted... He's the most moderate candidate the GOP is offering up and he's already in leadership. For that alone, he is expected to fail. You may know the answer to this or not: can the current speaker pro tempre bring a temporary funding bill for the government to the floor? Because to me that will determine whether this is a bad thing or not. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:976833403] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Starks posted... </cite><quote>He's the most moderate candidate the GOP is offering up and he's already in leadership.For that alone, he is expected to fail.</quote>You may know the answer to this or not: can the current speaker pro tempre bring a temporary funding bill for the government to the floor? Because to me that will determine whether this is a bad thing or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 10/24/23 11:05:19 AM #296:	Even if he could, McHenry is asserting that a formal vote to establish that power would be required first or he abandons the chair. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:976833412] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Even if he could, McHenry is asserting that a formal vote to establish that power would be required first or he abandons the chair. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/24/23 11:06:12 AM #297:	Xenogears15 posted... You may know the answer to this or not: can the current speaker pro tempre bring a temporary funding bill for the government to the floor? Because to me that will determine whether this is a bad thing or not. No. There was talk of the house giving the speaker pro tempore more power to be able to bring a funding bill to the floor since Republicans couldn't decide on a speaker, but Republicans killed that idea. McHenry also threatened to quit if such power was granted. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:976833430] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>You may know the answer to this or not: can the current speaker pro tempre bring a temporary funding bill for the government to the floor? Because to me that will determine whether this is a bad thing or not.</quote>No. There was talk of the house giving the speaker pro tempore more power to be able to bring a funding bill to the floor since Republicans couldn't decide on a speaker, but Republicans killed that idea. McHenry also threatened to quit if such power was granted. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/24/23 11:09:14 AM #298:	Starks posted... He's the most moderate candidate the GOP is offering up and he's already in leadership. For that alone, he is expected to fail. He could cut a fair deal w/ the Democrats and lose literally 75% of his Republican support and STILL coast to victory. But we can't have that, can we? <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:976833469] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Starks posted... </cite><quote>He's the most moderate candidate the GOP is offering up and he's already in leadership.For that alone, he is expected to fail.</quote>He could cut a fair deal w/ the Democrats and lose literally 75% of his Republican support and STILL coast to victory.But we can't have that, can we?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 10/24/23 11:12:30 AM #299:	Tora_Sami posted... So who exactly is emmer? Are they a crazy maga or centrist? He's a right winger that doesn't totally believe the 2020 election was stollen from Donnie.... so... you know.... a RINO to the dipshit base. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:976833514] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Tora_Sami posted...</cite><quote>So who exactly is emmer? Are they a crazy maga or centrist?</quote>He's a right winger that doesn't totally believe the 2020 election was stollen from Donnie.... so... you know.... a RINO to the dipshit base. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 10/24/23 11:17:03 AM #300:	Tora_Sami posted... So who exactly is emmer? Are they a crazy maga or centrist? He voted to certify the election so hes the least crazy by that standard alone. But that also guarantees he won't win when they vote on the house floor. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976833570] in House Spea... [t:80597386]...</cite> <quote>Tora_Sami posted... </cite><quote>So who exactly is emmer? Are they a crazy maga or centrist?</quote>He voted to certify the election so hes the least crazy by that standard alone. But that also guarantees he won't win when they vote on the house floor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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