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havean776
10/18/23 4:23:24 PM
#51:


Still want to know if Yawnmaster uses adblock on gamefaqs.

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Tom_Joad
10/18/23 4:25:38 PM
#52:


YouTube was created as a free, user-generated content video website.

That's what it is.

Anything going against that is, by definition, against YouTube.

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Cynrascal
10/18/23 4:27:51 PM
#53:


I'll say it again. If Youtube offers a cheaper tier for those who just want the no ads privileges and none of the other unnecessary bloat, I'd consider it. I do that with services like Netflix and Peacock.

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 4:29:40 PM
#54:


havean776 posted...
Still want to know if Yawnmaster uses adblock on gamefaqs.

I don't. but if I did, I wouldn't feel entitled to it.

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WoodenRook
10/18/23 4:30:52 PM
#55:


Tom_Joad posted...
YouTube was created as a free, user-generated content video website.

That's what it is.

Anything going against that is, by definition, against YouTube.
And then it was sold for real money to someone who wants to monetize it.

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voldothegr8
10/18/23 4:32:39 PM
#57:


ai123 posted...
YouTube gets its content for free.

Why not me?


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Tom_Joad
10/18/23 4:32:54 PM
#58:


WoodenRook posted...
And then it was sold for real money to someone who wants to monetize it.

I guess they'll need to change the name to PayTube. Or spin off the monetized section into Paytube.

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WoodenRook
10/18/23 4:33:26 PM
#59:


Tom_Joad posted...
I guess they'll need to change the name to PayTube. Or spin off the monetized section into Paytube.
Or, they can call it Youtube since they bought it.

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VGAddict90
10/18/23 4:33:41 PM
#60:


What are the best alternative sites to YouTube?
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mario2000
10/18/23 4:33:48 PM
#61:


It is your moral imperative to use ad and tracker blockers.

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 4:34:48 PM
#62:


undefined posted...
YouTube gets its content for free.

Why not me?


Youtube pays for monetized content and allows people to upload their videos where they pay the cost to store them and keep them readily available to whomever wants to use them like other video hosting websites yes.

Why not you? Go for it, but you don't own YouTube so if they want to stop you they should be able to.

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Tom_Joad
10/18/23 4:35:06 PM
#63:


WoodenRook posted...
Or, they can call it Youtube since they bought it.

If Google wants money from YouTube, they should add porn. PornHub and YouPorn are money printing machines.

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 4:35:47 PM
#64:


Be bad for brand

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WoodenRook
10/18/23 4:37:58 PM
#65:


Tom_Joad posted...
If Google wants money from YouTube, they should add porn. PornHub and YouPorn are money printing machines.
I don't think it fits within the Google company image to distribute pornography, but if you think you can make them money sure pitch it to them.

This is off-topic.

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Tom_Joad
10/18/23 4:38:40 PM
#66:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
Be bad for brand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTJvdGcb7Fs

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ai123
10/18/23 4:42:20 PM
#67:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
Youtube pays for monetized content and allows people to upload their videos where they pay the cost to store them and keep them readily available to whomever wants to use them like other video hosting websites yes.

They get the content for free. The fact that YouTube may deign to pass on a few crumbs from their feast at their discretion doesn't change that.

Why not you? Go for it, but you don't own YouTube so if they want to stop you they should be able to.

They could stop me if they really wanted. I can't watch Netflix, HBO Max, or Apple TV just by using an adblocker, can I?

Yet somehow, this free, easy, and completely legal method allows me to never see a YouTube ad. I wonder why?

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 4:42:51 PM
#68:


I don't think Google should claim everyone is a little bit racist either.

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 4:45:03 PM
#69:


ai123 posted...
They get the content for free. The fact that YouTube may deign to pass on a few crumbs from their feast at their discretion doesn't change that.


Your argument.

A. Youtube gets their content for free
B. Youtube pays for their content, but in the metaphor of eating food
Conclusion: Given B (in food metaphor form mind you), still doesn't change A.

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ai123
10/18/23 4:56:40 PM
#70:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
Your argument.

A. Youtube gets their content for free
B. Youtube pays for their content, but in the metaphor of eating food
Conclusion: Given B (in food metaphor form mind you), still doesn't change A.
My argument is that YouTube gets its content for free. Which it absolutely does.

Now tell me why it doesn't stop me watching like other subscription services do

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WoodenRook
10/18/23 5:04:28 PM
#72:


ai123 posted...
My argument is that YouTube gets its content for free. Which it absolutely does.

Now tell me why it doesn't stop me watching like other subscription services do
Ai, you've always been reasonable. I disagree with you here.

If you bought something, it's yours. You could throw it in the trash if you want to. You could paint it pink and call it a Barbie if you wanted to.

Youtube is what they say it is. You can accept it or not. But saying how it was created free or if they provide money for content are all irrelevant and just excuses you're using to tell others how to treat their property.

It's not even your own content you're arguing with. If someone else chose to upload on Youtube, that's between them and Youtube. You can't use what someone else does or has agreed to as an excuse for your behavior.

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 5:50:47 PM
#73:


It doesnt get its content for free.

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dave_is_slick
10/18/23 5:52:05 PM
#74:


StealThisSheen posted...
You seem very obsessed with this.
Dude's an extreme shill, what do you expect?

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 5:53:07 PM
#75:


dave_is_slick posted...
Dude's an extreme shill, what do you expect?
I smell fear and insecurity. Lets debate. You start. Why are you entitled to ad-free YouTube?

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havean776
10/18/23 5:55:12 PM
#76:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
I smell fear and insecurity. Lets debate. You start. Why are you entitled to ad-free YouTube?
Because I can out smart the ad blocker.

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dave_is_slick
10/18/23 5:57:13 PM
#77:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
I smell fear and insecurity. Lets debate. You start. Why are you entitled to ad-free YouTube?
Oh god you're also one of those annoying "debate me bro" types.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/18/23 5:57:14 PM
#78:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
It doesnt get its content for free.
I certainly do, though.

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Freddie_Mercury
10/18/23 5:57:29 PM
#79:


you WILL watch the ads without skipping them
you WILL use their referral code to get 15% off your first order
you WILL download raid shadow legends
you WILL buy their ugly overpriced merch

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dave_is_slick
10/18/23 5:58:15 PM
#80:


havean776 posted...
Because I can out smart the ad blocker.
I'm still trying. Got some suggestions to try out when I get home, hopefully it works!

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Xatrion
10/18/23 5:58:54 PM
#81:


Fuck ads, and shut the fuck up.

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 6:00:22 PM
#82:


havean776 posted...
Because I can out smart the ad blocker.


I can debate two people at once.

so, your argument is.

since I am capable of bypassing the flaw in a system, I am entitled to extract the benefit of that system against the owner of that systems stated boundaries.

are you ok with rape if you can get away with it? You are entitled to sex since you found a way of having sex with someone despite their boundary by outsmarting their defense mechanism? Seems like a really flawed argument to use something against the boundaries of the owner because you can outsmart it

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havean776
10/18/23 6:00:51 PM
#83:


dave_is_slick posted...
I'm still trying. Got some suggestions to try out when I get home, hopefully it works!
Fire fox ublock. Close all tabs. Go to Ublock options and purge all caches, update. Clear cookies on firefox. Close page and reopen.

You can also just sign out of youtube and that tends to work.

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havean776
10/18/23 6:01:20 PM
#84:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
I can debate two people at once.

so, your argument is.

since I am capable of bypassing the flaw in a system, I am entitled to extract the benefit of that system against the owner of that systems stated boundaries.

Nope.

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 6:02:30 PM
#85:


dave_is_slick posted...
Oh god you're also one of those annoying "debate me bro" types.

not really. Go through all my posts, you wont find that.

seems my initial sense was right though. People who are afraid and insecure resort to ad-hominems instead of logic.

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Yawn_Master2
10/18/23 6:03:12 PM
#86:


havean776 posted...
Nope.

youre incapable of demonstrating it isnt I fear.

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Murphiroth
10/18/23 6:03:36 PM
#87:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
I can debate two people at once.

so, your argument is.

since I am capable of bypassing the flaw in a system, I am entitled to extract the benefit of that system against the owner of that systems stated boundaries.

are you ok with rape if you can get away with it? You are entitled to sex since you found a way of having sex with someone despite their boundary by outsmarting their defense mechanism? Seems like a really flawed argument to use something against the boundaries of the owner because you can outsmart it

Imagine corpo simping and ad simping so hard you compare bypassing ads to rape.

Fuckin' lunatic behavior.
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dave_is_slick
10/18/23 6:03:38 PM
#88:


havean776 posted...
Clear cookies on firefox.
That's a new one for me. I'll try that when I can.

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Tmaster148
10/18/23 6:03:49 PM
#89:


You can smell the desperation for Google to notice OP and tell him he's doing a good job.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/18/23 6:04:14 PM
#90:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
I can debate two people at once.

so, your argument is.

since I am capable of bypassing the flaw in a system, I am entitled to extract the benefit of that system against the owner of that systems stated boundaries.

are you ok with rape if you can get away with it? You are entitled to sex since you found a way of having sex with someone despite their boundary by outsmarting their defense mechanism? Seems like a really flawed argument to use something against the boundaries of the owner because you can outsmart it
You need to shut the fuck up right now.

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Tyranthraxus
10/18/23 6:04:28 PM
#91:


I'm imagining right now.

Feels good.

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Rika_Furude
10/18/23 6:04:50 PM
#92:


Im entitled to a safe browsing experience with no malware. That means no ads.
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ThyCorndog
10/18/23 6:05:18 PM
#93:


I simply don't care. If I can keep blocking ads then I will. On my phone I have to deal with them. On my PC I still can block them. I will continue to use YouTube even if my adblockers stop working, but for as long as they work then I will continue to use them

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havean776
10/18/23 6:06:10 PM
#94:


Yawn_Master2 posted...
youre incapable of demonstrating it isnt I fear.
My argument is far simplier. I don't wanna watch ads.
Neither do you. We both want the same thing.
You pay to remove them I do it for free. We both get the same result!
We both win!

Why can't you be happy with this? Instead you are outraged that you chose to pay for something I did for free. Why? The end result is the same.
Notice how I didn't accuse you of wanting to rape people? I'm much better at this debate thing than you are!

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ai123
10/18/23 6:11:12 PM
#95:


WoodenRook posted...
Ai, you've always been reasonable. I disagree with you here.

If you bought something, it's yours. You could throw it in the trash if you want to. You could paint it pink and call it a Barbie if you wanted to.

Youtube is what they say it is. You can accept it or not. But saying how it was created free or if they provide money for content are all irrelevant and just excuses you're using to tell others how to treat their property.

It's not even your own content you're arguing with. If someone else chose to upload on Youtube, that's between them and Youtube. You can't use what someone else does or has agreed to as an excuse for your behavior.
I don't think my position is that far from yours in that I agree that YouTube is entitled to take measures to stop adblockers.

But I also believe there is no moral problem with using adblockers on YouTube. YouTube doesn't own the content that is posted to it. It does not even accept any responsibility for it. The creator chose to upload their videos to a site which I can watch while blocking ads.

The reason I mention that the content is provided free to YouTube is partly to highlight the poor value of the subscription. This is a service that originates nothing, yet charges a lot more than Disney+ or Amazon. For some reason people seem wildly excited at the idea of listening to music videos with the window minimised . . . at a lower bitrate than free Spotify!

As I said before, YouTube could absolutely stop me from watching ad free. I can't get free Netflix with an adblocker. But in the end, they actually want to keep me around. Partly for the data selling, and partly because they want to be the site where everyone goes.

So we continue with the little dance around the adverts. It's not optimal for rather party, but it will do.

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UnholyMudcrab
10/18/23 6:13:06 PM
#96:


Oh no, he appears to be warned. I wonder what possibly could have done him in.

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TripleDouble
10/18/23 6:13:17 PM
#97:


If you're complaining that you are not getting a service anymore that you have to pay for now that means it's worth paying for if you're complaining.

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Cemith
10/18/23 6:14:03 PM
#98:


Murphiroth posted...
Imagine corpo simping and ad simping so hard you compare bypassing ads to rape.

Fuckin' lunatic behavior.

All this because he's holding for water for YouTube adware.

Some people just can't help themselves I suppose

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Lobinde
10/18/23 6:14:36 PM
#99:


"b-b-bu-but if you block ads google won't get money and youtube will die!!!"

Good. We've been talking about the need for viable alternatives to youtube for a long time now.

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dave_is_slick
10/18/23 6:14:54 PM
#100:


TripleDouble posted...
If you're complaining that you are not getting a service anymore that you have to pay for now that means it's worth paying for if you're complaining.
That makes zero sense.

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