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GranAures 10/17/23 9:58:44 PM #349:	Killing civilians is wrong, but would letting the Axis continue its genocide and world conquest to avoid that have been right? Because it is only one of the other, right? Either kill orders of magnitude more innocent civilians or let the bad guys win, no in between. Either let Israel bomb Palestinians without complaint or let Hamas commit the next holocaust, no in between. And guess what permitting and excusing the widescale death of Palestinians is going to do: The children will remember this. They will grow, and their anger will grow with them, and there will never be peace. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. <cite>GranAures posted [p:976717189] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote><quote>Killing civilians is wrong, but would letting the Axis continue its genocide and world conquest to avoid that have been right?</quote>Because it is only one of the other, right? Either kill orders of magnitude more innocent civilians or let the bad guys win, no in between. Either let Israel bomb Palestinians without complaint or let Hamas commit the next holocaust, no in between.And guess what permitting and excusing the widescale death of Palestinians is going to do:<quote>The children will remember this. They will grow, and their anger will grow with them, and there will never be peace.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 10/17/23 10:00:33 PM #350:	LaManoNeraII posted... Oh Im well aware Hamas has been attacking Israel for decades. Israel has appeased them that whole time. They traded Hamas prisoners for Israeli hostages, paid ransoms, and dismantled Israeli settlements in Gaza. But Hamas has continued attacking them, with the most recent attack costing thousands of lives, including Americans. And was the most deadly attack against Jews since the Holocaust. Do you believe Israel should still appease them? Just ignore it? Or even surrender? Did you agree with western appeasement of the Nazis? You're never going to answer my question are you, is it too hard for you? When Israel blew up refugees evacuating Northern Gaza like Israel instructed them to and by routes Israel said were safe what was that? Was that terrorism, a war crime or justified? --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:976717214] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>LaManoNeraII posted... </cite><quote>Oh Im well aware Hamas has been attacking Israel for decades.Israel has appeased them that whole time. They traded Hamas prisoners for Israeli hostages, paid ransoms, and dismantled Israeli settlements in Gaza.But Hamas has continued attacking them, with the most recent attack costing thousands of lives, including Americans. And was the most deadly attack against Jews since the Holocaust.Do you believe Israel should still appease them? Just ignore it? Or even surrender? Did you agree with western appeasement of the Nazis?</quote>You're never going to answer my question are you, is it too hard for you?When Israel blew up refugees evacuating Northern Gaza like Israel instructed them to and by routes Israel said were safe what was that? Was that terrorism, a war crime or justified? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 10/17/23 10:01:12 PM #351:	hockeybub89 posted... Someone needs to put you on a watchlist. "If terrorists commit an attack, then the other side has the right to slaughter an infinite number of innocents in response and I would thank them for killing me in the good fight!" And you're still neglecting Israel's history. Would Hitler have been justified if a terror cell bombed Berlin at some point? Would his past transgressions no longer matter? Because any recognized government is automatically justified to stamp out their enemy by any means necessary? It takes at least two sides to fight and at least two sides to end fighting. So if war starts, you fight (ie: kill) until BOTH agree to stop. Right now, HAMAS isn't willing to surrender. So hostilities continue. That's how war works. That's why the US expected to see millions dead in an invasion of mainland Japan during WWII. And why nukes were dropped. Because the US didn't care how many Japanese died. They cared only about minimizing US casualties. Japanese casualties were the responsibility of the Japanese government. And when they realized they couldn't accept the deaths of any more Japanese, they surrendered. They even did so unconditionally. What makes this conflict any different? --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:976717222] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Someone needs to put you on a watchlist."If terrorists commit an attack, then the other side has the right to slaughter an infinite number of innocents in response and I would thank them for killing me in the good fight!"And you're still neglecting Israel's history. Would Hitler have been justified if a terror cell bombed Berlin at some point? Would his past transgressions no longer matter? Because any recognized government is automatically justified to stamp out their enemy by any means necessary?</quote>It takes at least two sides to fight and at least two sides to end fighting.So if war starts, you fight (ie: kill) until BOTH agree to stop. Right now, HAMAS isn't willing to surrender. So hostilities continue.That's how war works. That's why the US expected to see millions dead in an invasion of mainland Japan during WWII. And why nukes were dropped. Because the US didn't care how many Japanese died. They cared only about minimizing US casualties.Japanese casualties were the responsibility of the Japanese government. And when they realized they couldn't accept the deaths of any more Japanese, they surrendered. They even did so unconditionally.What makes this conflict any different? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/17/23 10:02:15 PM #352:	Tom_Joad posted... What makes this conflict any different? The fact that Israel wants to exterminate the Palestinians or at least drive them out of the area altogether, rather than simply achieving peace. Source: Literally the entirety of Israel's history. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:976717238] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>What makes this conflict any different?</quote>The fact that Israel wants to exterminate the Palestinians or at least drive them out of the area altogether, rather than simply achieving peace.Source: Literally the entirety of Israel's history. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaManoNeraII 10/17/23 10:02:28 PM #353:	GranAures posted... Because it is only one of the other, right? Either kill orders of magnitude more innocent civilians or let the bad guys win, no in between. Either let Israel bomb Palestinians without complaint or let Hamas commit the next holocaust, no in between. And guess what permitting and excusing the widescale death of Palestinians is going to do: How would you prevent Hamas from killing more people without dismantling the resources, weapons, and personnel they use to kill people? --- http://i.imgur.com/WQJlV.png <cite>LaManoNeraII posted [p:976717247] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>GranAures posted... </cite><quote>Because it is only one of the other, right? Either kill orders of magnitude more innocent civilians or let the bad guys win, no in between. Either let Israel bomb Palestinians without complaint or let Hamas commit the next holocaust, no in between.And guess what permitting and excusing the widescale death of Palestinians is going to do:</quote>How would you prevent Hamas from killing more people without dismantling the resources, weapons, and personnel they use to kill people? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 10/17/23 10:02:38 PM #354:	Tom_Joad posted... What makes this conflict any different? Because it's not a World War you fucking moron. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976717249] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>What makes this conflict any different?</quote>Because it's not a World War you fucking moron. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 10/17/23 10:03:37 PM #355:	There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:976717265] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/17/23 10:04:17 PM #356:	hockeybub89 posted... There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate. Alt-right terrorists only killed 39 babies so they're safe as long as they don't kill a 40th. /s --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:976717276] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate.</quote>Alt-right terrorists only killed 39 babies so they're safe as long as they don't kill a 40th. /s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 10/17/23 10:04:55 PM #357:	Trumble posted... The fact that Israel wants to exterminate the Palestinians or at least drive them out of the area altogether, rather than simply achieving peace. Source: Literally the nonsense I pulled out of my own head. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:976717284] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>The fact that Israel wants to exterminate the Palestinians or at least drive them out of the area altogether, rather than simply achieving peace.Source: Literally the nonsense I pulled out of my own head.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 10/17/23 10:05:00 PM #358:	hockeybub89 posted... There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate. He didnt say that at all. These conversations are so painful because so many of you cant have an intellectually honest conversation. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:976717286] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate.</quote>He didnt say that at all. These conversations are so painful because so many of you cant have an intellectually honest conversation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 10/17/23 10:05:03 PM #359:	Shadow_Don posted... Because it's not a World War you fucking moron. Beyond the scope (ie: fought world-wide), how are they different than any other war? --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:976717288] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>Because it's not a World War you fucking moron.</quote>Beyond the scope (ie: fought world-wide), how are they different than any other war? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 10/17/23 10:05:25 PM #360:	Wait why are we still taking the Hoax of baby beheading? It's already debunked a long time ago, the topic itself already purged after 3 days inactivity because it's already debunked. PS can search the topic on the archive site, it started with "Fox New Reporting ..." --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:976717296] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Wait why are we still taking the Hoax of baby beheading?It's already debunked a long time ago, the topic itself already purged after 3 days inactivity because it's already debunked. PS can search the topic on the archive site, it started with "Fox New Reporting ..." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 10/17/23 10:06:51 PM #361:	Tom_Joad posted... Beyond the scope (ie: fought world-wide), how are they different than any other war? Because Israel doesn't need to engage in Total War to survive whereas in WW2 it was Total War. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976717324] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>Beyond the scope (ie: fought world-wide), how are they different than any other war?</quote>Because Israel doesn't need to engage in Total War to survive whereas in WW2 it was Total War. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 10/17/23 10:07:00 PM #362:	Tom_Joad posted... Beyond the scope (ie: fought world-wide), how are they different than any other war? For one you're rooting for the guys committing literal genocide so that alone is a little different than WWII. --- http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:976717328] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>Beyond the scope (ie: fought world-wide), how are they different than any other war?</quote>For one you're rooting for the guys committing literal genocide so that alone is a little different than WWII. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaManoNeraII 10/17/23 10:07:56 PM #363:	hockeybub89 posted... There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate. So it went from 100k dead civilians to millions? --- http://i.imgur.com/WQJlV.png <cite>LaManoNeraII posted [p:976717335] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate.</quote>So it went from 100k dead civilians to millions? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/17/23 10:08:23 PM #364:	Tom_Joad posted... Beyond the scope (ie: fought world-wide), how are they different than any other war? In WW2 most people were not on the side of the genocidal maniacs. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:976717344] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>Beyond the scope (ie: fought world-wide), how are they different than any other war?</quote>In WW2 most people were not on the side of the genocidal maniacs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 10/17/23 10:09:52 PM #365:	LaManoNeraII posted... So it went from 100k dead civilians to millions? I'm the one that said 100k+ And yea 1 million dead is genuinely on the table if Israel doesn't calm the fuck down. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976717371] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>LaManoNeraII posted... </cite><quote>So it went from 100k dead civilians to millions? </quote>I'm the one that said 100k+ And yea 1 million dead is genuinely on the table if Israel doesn't calm the fuck down. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 10/17/23 10:10:13 PM #366:	What do you think the casualty count of bombing every city with terrorists in it would be in America? It would be millions if the US cratered every city with terrorists present. The same solution you would happily support to stop Hamas instead of more targeted and less discriminate actions. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. <cite>GranAures posted [p:976717377] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>What do you think the casualty count of bombing every city with terrorists in it would be in America?It would be millions if the US cratered every city with terrorists present. The same solution you would happily support to stop Hamas instead of more targeted and less discriminate actions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 10/17/23 10:10:45 PM #367:	ultimate_reaver posted... all youre going to get out of that guy is him pretending he has big nuts in the weirdest way possible, why are you engaging? He literally started with I would be happy to be air striked and totally not die screaming in flames, where do you go from there? It's called "recognizing I don't have the power to stop it" and "feeling some satisfaction in knowing the a-holes who will get me killed... are killed, too". --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:976717387] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>ultimate_reaver posted... </cite><quote>all youre going to get out of that guy is him pretending he has big nuts in the weirdest way possible, why are you engaging? He literally started with I would be happy to be air striked and totally not die screaming in flames, where do you go from there?</quote>It's called "recognizing I don't have the power to stop it" and "feeling some satisfaction in knowing the a-holes who will get me killed... are killed, too". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 10/17/23 10:11:46 PM #368:	Trumble posted... In WW2 most people were not on the side of the genocidal maniacs. It was a fucking world war, so that wasnt true. If you fought for Germany, Russia, or Japan you certainly were. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:976717409] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>In WW2 most people were not on the side of the genocidal maniacs.</quote>It was a fucking world war, so that wasnt true.If you fought for Germany, Russia, or Japan you certainly were. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 10/17/23 10:12:15 PM #369:	I bet Putin is loving this. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:976717416] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>I bet Putin is loving this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 10/17/23 10:12:36 PM #370:	so how many kill count is Israel going for before they stop --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:976717423] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>so how many kill count is Israel going for before they stop </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 10/17/23 10:13:03 PM #371:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... It was a fucking world war, so that wasnt true. If you fought for Germany, Russia, or Japan you certainly were. Russia flipped over it was Italy for the axis <cite>name_unknown posted [p:976717435] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>It was a fucking world war, so that wasnt true.If you fought for Germany, Russia, or Japan you certainly were.</quote>Russia flipped over it was Italy for the axis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 10/17/23 10:13:22 PM #372:	And everyone around you and everyone in a lot of other cities. But hey, they got the terrorists, mission accomplished! --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. <cite>GranAures posted [p:976717440] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>And everyone around you and everyone in a lot of other cities.But hey, they got the terrorists, mission accomplished! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 10/17/23 10:14:07 PM #373:	LaManoNeraII posted... So it went from 100k dead civilians to millions? When Israel blew up refugees evacuating Northern Gaza like Israel instructed them to and by routes Israel said were safe what was that? Was that terrorism, a war crime or justified? --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:976717453] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>LaManoNeraII posted... </cite><quote>So it went from 100k dead civilians to millions? </quote>When Israel blew up refugees evacuating Northern Gaza like Israel instructed them to and by routes Israel said were safe what was that? Was that terrorism, a war crime or justified? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 10/17/23 10:14:10 PM #374:	LaManoNeraII posted... But Hamas has continued attacking them, with the most recent attack costing thousands of lives, including Americans. And was the most deadly attack against Jews since the Holocaust. As of today there are 1,400-1,500 dead in Israel since the attack. You are straight up lying. Why are you lying? As of today, almost 4,000 Palestinians are dead. <cite>VFalcone posted [p:976717456] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>LaManoNeraII posted... </cite><quote>But Hamas has continued attacking them, with the most recent attack costing thousands of lives, including Americans. And was the most deadly attack against Jews since the Holocaust.</quote>As of today there are 1,400-1,500 dead in Israel since the attack. You are straight up lying. Why are you lying?As of today, almost 4,000 Palestinians are dead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GibraItar 10/17/23 10:15:00 PM #375:	Running in place to Talking Heads --- I have no son <cite>GibraItar posted [p:976717476] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Running in place to Talking Heads </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 10/17/23 10:15:01 PM #376:	Trumble posted... In WW2 most people were not on the side of the genocidal maniacs. HAMAS's charter. Remember that? You stand here in support of it. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:976717477] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>In WW2 most people were not on the side of the genocidal maniacs.</quote>HAMAS's charter. Remember that?You stand here in support of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 10/17/23 10:15:30 PM #377:	VFalcone posted... Why are you lying? We know why. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. <cite>GranAures posted [p:976717485] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>VFalcone posted... </cite><quote>Why are you lying?</quote>We know why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 10/17/23 10:16:53 PM #378:	Nukazie posted... so how many kill count is Israel going for before they stop Shouldn't you also ask that of HAMAS? How many of their own people will die before they surrender? They have the power to end it just as much as Israel does. Yet no one asks them to. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:976717510] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Nukazie posted... </cite><quote>so how many kill count is Israel going for before they stop</quote>Shouldn't you also ask that of HAMAS? How many of their own people will die before they surrender?They have the power to end it just as much as Israel does.Yet no one asks them to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 10/17/23 10:17:00 PM #379:	name_unknown posted... Russia flipped over it was Italy for the axis But Italy wasnt genocidal. They actually refused to hand over the Jews to the Nazis until after 1943 when Mussolini is removed from power. The Russians on the other hand were so pissed off they were determined to kill as many Germans as they possibly could. Correct me if Im wrong, but thats genocide. I mean - did you ever stop and think what the end of the war in Europe would have looked like if the Americans, French, and British didnt make it to Berlin in time? The death camps should have been liberated, sure. But what the hell happens to Germany? --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:976717513] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>name_unknown posted... </cite><quote>Russia flipped over it was Italy for the axis</quote>But Italy wasnt genocidal. They actually refused to hand over the Jews to the Nazis until after 1943 when Mussolini is removed from power.The Russians on the other hand were so pissed off they were determined to kill as many Germans as they possibly could. Correct me if Im wrong, but thats genocide.I mean - did you ever stop and think what the end of the war in Europe would have looked like if the Americans, French, and British didnt make it to Berlin in time? The death camps should have been liberated, sure. But what the hell happens to Germany? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaManoNeraII 10/17/23 10:18:38 PM #380:	hockeybub89 posted... There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate. We didnt have to blow up millions of Americans to arrest the hundreds of terrorists who attacked the capital, killed 4 people, and attempted to assassinate two government officials. Just the same that Israel has not had to blow up millions of people to kill several Hamas leaders and destroy over 300 Hamas facilities. If you want to make the argument more clear, why dont you outline specifically what the military of a sovereign nation is allowed to do and not allowed to do to combat constant attacks from a terrorist organization whos sole mandate is the death of all your people. --- http://i.imgur.com/WQJlV.png <cite>LaManoNeraII posted [p:976717539] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>There are already far-right terrorists hiding throughout America. I guess @Tom_Joad will support Joe Biden blowing up millions of innocent people across the country in the noble fight to end weaponized hate.</quote>We didnt have to blow up millions of Americans to arrest the hundreds of terrorists who attacked the capital, killed 4 people, and attempted to assassinate two government officials.Just the same that Israel has not had to blow up millions of people to kill several Hamas leaders and destroy over 300 Hamas facilities.If you want to make the argument more clear, why dont you outline specifically what the military of a sovereign nation is allowed to do and not allowed to do to combat constant attacks from a terrorist organization whos sole mandate is the death of all your people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/17/23 10:19:10 PM #381:	Tom_Joad posted... It's called "recognizing I don't have the power to stop it" and "feeling some satisfaction in knowing the a-holes who will get me killed... are killed, too". Fine if you are alone but kinda fucked up way of thinking if you let your family die with you <cite>Zikten posted [p:976717549] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>It's called "recognizing I don't have the power to stop it" and "feeling some satisfaction in knowing the a-holes who will get me killed... are killed, too".</quote>Fine if you are alone but kinda fucked up way of thinking if you let your family die with you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rotterdammerung 10/17/23 10:19:21 PM #382:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... But Italy wasnt genocidal. They actually refused to hand over the Jews to the Nazis until after 1943 when Mussolini is removed from power. The Russians on the other hand were so pissed off they were determined to kill as many Germans as they possibly could. Correct me if Im wrong, but thats genocide. I mean - did you ever stop and think what the end of the war in Europe would have looked like if the Americans, French, and British didnt make it to Berlin in time? The death camps should have been liberated, sure. But what the hell happens to Germany? --- Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things. GNU STP <cite>Rotterdammerung posted [p:976717552] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>But Italy wasnt genocidal. They actually refused to hand over the Jews to the Nazis until after 1943 when Mussolini is removed from power.The Russians on the other hand were so pissed off they were determined to kill as many Germans as they possibly could. Correct me if Im wrong, but thats genocide.I mean - did you ever stop and think what the end of the war in Europe would have looked like if the Americans, French, and British didnt make it to Berlin in time? The death camps should have been liberated, sure. But what the hell happens to Germany?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaManoNeraII 10/17/23 10:20:47 PM #383:	VFalcone posted... As of today there are 1,400-1,500 dead in Israel since the attack. You are straight up lying. Why are you lying? As of today, almost 4,000 Palestinians are dead. Why are you using figures from Hamas? And why are you blaming dead Palestinians on Israel and not Hamas? --- http://i.imgur.com/WQJlV.png <cite>LaManoNeraII posted [p:976717584] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>VFalcone posted... </cite><quote>As of today there are 1,400-1,500 dead in Israel since the attack. You are straight up lying. Why are you lying?As of today, almost 4,000 Palestinians are dead. </quote>Why are you using figures from Hamas?And why are you blaming dead Palestinians on Israel and not Hamas? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 10/17/23 10:21:59 PM #384:	It's almost funny how allergic to answering my question this guy is even though I answered his. I guess that's the difference when you have reality on your side instead of bullshit. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:976717606] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>It's almost funny how allergic to answering my question this guy is even though I answered his.I guess that's the difference when you have reality on your side instead of bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 10/17/23 10:22:18 PM #385:	LaManoNeraII posted... Just the same that Israel has not had to blow up millions of people to kill several Hamas leaders and destroy over 300 Hamas facilities. Bro they are depriving the entire population of food and planning a ground invasion. Nobody is saying there are literally a million dead in Gaza right now. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976717611] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>LaManoNeraII posted... </cite><quote>Just the same that Israel has not had to blow up millions of people to kill several Hamas leaders and destroy over 300 Hamas facilities.</quote>Bro they are depriving the entire population of food and planning a ground invasion.Nobody is saying there are literally a million dead in Gaza right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 10/17/23 10:22:42 PM #386:	LaManoNeraII posted... Why are you using figures from Hamas? And why are you blaming dead Palestinians on Israel and not Hamas? Dude, the one thing I will say is that just because your enemy hides behind human shields, that doesnt mean you ignore them. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:976717616] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>LaManoNeraII posted... </cite><quote>Why are you using figures from Hamas?And why are you blaming dead Palestinians on Israel and not Hamas?</quote>Dude, the one thing I will say is that just because your enemy hides behind human shields, that doesnt mean you ignore them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deyestus 10/17/23 10:23:46 PM #387:	OK, so, you're the leader of a country that was just targeted by a terrorist attack. You catch wind that members of this terror cell are using the basement (or a secluded section) of a hospital as a base/checkpoint/safehouse. What do you do? A.) Assemble a small tactical force of IDF fighters to infiltrate the hospital quietly and take out the terrorists, with zero (or as few as possible) innocent casualties. B.) Airstrike the entire building, killing everyone inside (including scores of children and civilians) in the hopes that you "get 'em all!?" I sincerely hope you would choose "A." Netanyahu didn't. Which is why him and the Israeli government are getting the shit they absolutely deserve. --- "Let me hear you make decisions Without your television." <cite>Deyestus posted [p:976717634] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>OK, so, you're the leader of a country that was just targeted by a terrorist attack. You catch wind that members of this terror cell are using the basement (or a secluded section) of a hospital as a base/checkpoint/safehouse. What do you do?A.) Assemble a small tactical force of IDF fighters to infiltrate the hospital quietly and take out the terrorists, with zero (or as few as possible) innocent casualties.B.) Airstrike the entire building, killing everyone inside (including scores of children and civilians) in the hopes that you "get 'em all!?"I sincerely hope you would choose "A." Netanyahu didn't. Which is why him and the Israeli government are getting the shit they absolutely deserve. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 10/17/23 10:24:33 PM #388:	LaManoNeraII posted... Why are you using figures from Hamas? And why are you blaming dead Palestinians on Israel and not Hamas? Those are literally the numbers from CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, BBC, SkyNews, FOX News, Al Jazeera, and Jerusalem Post, IDF, and damn near every station <cite>VFalcone posted [p:976717641] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>LaManoNeraII posted... </cite><quote>Why are you using figures from Hamas?And why are you blaming dead Palestinians on Israel and not Hamas?</quote>Those are literally the numbers from CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, BBC, SkyNews, FOX News, Al Jazeera, and Jerusalem Post, IDF, and damn near every station </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaManoNeraII 10/17/23 10:24:47 PM #389:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Dude, the one thing I will say is that just because your enemy hides behind human shields, that doesnt mean you ignore them. Do you condemn the act of deliberately populating military instillations with civilians or not? Its literally a war crime --- http://i.imgur.com/WQJlV.png <cite>LaManoNeraII posted [p:976717645] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Dude, the one thing I will say is that just because your enemy hides behind human shields, that doesnt mean you ignore them.</quote>Do you condemn the act of deliberately populating military instillations with civilians or not? Its literally a war crime </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/17/23 10:28:19 PM #390:	Tom_Joad posted... Shouldn't you also ask that of HAMAS? How many of their own people will die before they surrender? They have the power to end it just as much as Israel does. Yet no one asks them to. Youve been educated on this point before. The annexation of Palestinian territory and apartheid state will not just end if Hamas surrenders or disappears. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976717687] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>Shouldn't you also ask that of HAMAS? How many of their own people will die before they surrender?They have the power to end it just as much as Israel does.Yet no one asks them to.</quote>Youve been educated on this point before. The annexation of Palestinian territory and apartheid state will not just end if Hamas surrenders or disappears. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 10/17/23 10:29:37 PM #391:	Shadow_Don posted... Nobody is saying there are literally a million dead in Gaza right now. Merely presenting what would happen if the idea of "glass it because they're targeting terrorists" leads to if applied to the US. And guess what? "Glass it because they're targeting terrorists" was not used and instead more targeted and less indiscriminate methods were used. If only that was the standard everywhere instead of calling out methods of unchecked civilian deaths leading to being called a terrorist sypathizer. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. <cite>GranAures posted [p:976717697] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>Nobody is saying there are literally a million dead in Gaza right now.</quote>Merely presenting what would happen if the idea of "glass it because they're targeting terrorists" leads to if applied to the US.And guess what? "Glass it because they're targeting terrorists" was not used and instead more targeted and less indiscriminate methods were used. If only that was the standard everywhere instead of calling out methods of unchecked civilian deaths leading to being called a terrorist sypathizer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yo_D_oY 10/17/23 10:29:45 PM #392:	The Hamas simps in this thread sound a lot like this https://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/s/yTau6GiVRY --- https://www.reddit.com/r/gamefaqs261/ <cite>Yo_D_oY posted [p:976717698] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>The Hamas simps in this thread sound a lot like thishttps://www.reddit.com/r/2ndYomKippurWar/s/yTau6GiVRY </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GranAures 10/17/23 10:30:32 PM #394:	Shouldn't you also ask that of HAMAS? How many of their own people will die before they surrender? Let me get on the HAMAS LINE(tm) and ask. /s --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. <cite>GranAures posted [p:976717715] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote><quote>Shouldn't you also ask that of HAMAS? How many of their own people will die before they surrender?</quote>Let me get on the HAMAS LINE(tm) and ask. /s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 10/17/23 10:30:34 PM #395:	Omfg these two clowns are beyond dumb "They have human shields! Do you condemn that?!" "Yes. Also, killing all the hostages in a hostage situation is bad" How is this hard? --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976717717] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Omfg these two clowns are beyond dumb"They have human shields! Do you condemn that?!""Yes. Also, killing all the hostages in a hostage situation is bad"How is this hard? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ya_dun_goofed 10/17/23 10:31:59 PM #397:	LaManoNeraII posted... Do you condemn the act of deliberately populating military instillations with civilians or not? Its literally a war crime In the era of drones Israels civilian death count is unacceptable. Deyestus posted... OK, so, you're the leader of a country that was just targeted by a terrorist attack. You catch wind that members of this terror cell are using the basement (or a secluded section) of a hospital as a base/checkpoint/safehouse. What do you do? A.) Assemble a small tactical force of IDF fighters to infiltrate the hospital quietly and take out the terrorists, with zero (or as few as possible) innocent casualties. B.) Airstrike the entire building, killing everyone inside (including scores of children and civilians) in the hopes that you "get 'em all!?" I sincerely hope you would choose "A." Netanyahu didn't. Which is why him and the Israeli government are getting the shit they absolutely deserve. Or use drones the way they were used in Armenia or Ukraine... Just to name a few recent examples. --- "the ABSOLUTE LAST THING ANY adc needs right now is a nerf." - Crows <cite>Ya_dun_goofed posted [p:976717738] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>LaManoNeraII posted... </cite><quote>Do you condemn the act of deliberately populating military instillations with civilians or not? Its literally a war crime</quote>In the era of drones Israels civilian death count is unacceptable.Deyestus posted... </cite><quote>OK, so, you're the leader of a country that was just targeted by a terrorist attack. You catch wind that members of this terror cell are using the basement (or a secluded section) of a hospital as a base/checkpoint/safehouse. What do you do?A.) Assemble a small tactical force of IDF fighters to infiltrate the hospital quietly and take out the terrorists, with zero (or as few as possible) innocent casualties.B.) Airstrike the entire building, killing everyone inside (including scores of children and civilians) in the hopes that you "get 'em all!?"I sincerely hope you would choose "A." Netanyahu didn't. Which is why him and the Israeli government are getting the shit they absolutely deserve.</quote>Or use drones the way they were used in Armenia or Ukraine... Just to name a few recent examples. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 10/17/23 10:32:01 PM #398:	Dark_Arbron posted... Youve been educated on this point before. The annexation of Palestinian territory and apartheid state will not just end if Hamas surrenders or disappears. Just like terror attacks wont end if Israel makes concessions to the Palestinians. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:976717739] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Youve been educated on this point before. The annexation of Palestinian territory and apartheid state will not just end if Hamas surrenders or disappears.</quote>Just like terror attacks wont end if Israel makes concessions to the Palestinians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
modena 10/17/23 10:33:45 PM #399:	Shadow_Don posted... Omfg these two clowns are beyond dumb "They have human shields! Do you condemn that?!" "Yes. Also, killing all the hostages in a hostage situation is bad" How is this hard? I saw a couple fill up gas next to me the other day. Took each of us about 5min. They left first,but before pulling into the street they tossed out a ton of garbage out the window. The trash can was 3ft away the whole time they were there. --- I'm surrounded <cite>modena posted [p:976717769] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>Omfg these two clowns are beyond dumb"They have human shields! Do you condemn that?!""Yes. Also, killing all the hostages in a hostage situation is bad"How is this hard?</quote>I saw a couple fill up gas next to me the other day. Took each of us about 5min. They left first,but before pulling into the street they tossed out a ton of garbage out the window. The trash can was 3ft away the whole time they were there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterbarf 10/17/23 10:35:01 PM #400:	Tom_Joad posted... HAMAS's charter. Remember that? You stand here in support of it. Lots of people simply don't even begin to appreciate the threats Israel faces, and has faced, when assessing anything at all. They're the dullards who are why I have to actually point out that statement doesn't mean I think everything Israel does is fine. Also what's with the comments, every time there's a conflict over there, that seem to suggest it's only okay for Israeli deaths to be equal to or more than Palestinian deaths? It's horrific either way. --- https://i.imgur.com/SJyzEFW.png by SmidgeIsntBack <cite>masterbarf posted [p:976717784] in Israel bom... [t:80595940]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>HAMAS's charter. Remember that?You stand here in support of it.</quote>Lots of people simply don't even begin to appreciate the threats Israel faces, and has faced, when assessing anything at all. They're the dullards who are why I have to actually point out that statement doesn't mean I think everything Israel does is fine. Also what's with the comments, every time there's a conflict over there, that seem to suggest it's only okay for Israeli deaths to be equal to or more than Palestinian deaths? It's horrific either way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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