Board 8 > Blade Mafia 5 Topic 5: Don't worry, Slippy's here!

(+) Yeah! (+)

I am still host tbqh.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/2/0/AAXBdhAAE7F8.png

I believe this is up to date with our claims so far.

Thanks Blade. Take it easy tho.

htaeD posted...

To clarify: BCT had to busdrive someone with Himself

Death can I get clarification on this clarification.

Are you saying BCT HAD to attempt to use his item?

Or he could have chosen not to use it, but if he DECIDED to use it then he had to busdrive himself?

Either way it's not the redirection I was hoping for since it still doesn't explain how a block ended up on BCT.

You should add that I gave BCT a self busdrive, FD

Okay IGCD you target someone with a role, what exact limitations and outcome do you get from that? I'll have a follow up question after so hurry up.

the one thing that's confusing about the BCT action ordering is like, if they were trying to RB IGCD, why would it let BCT know if he had no other actions

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Death can I get clarification on this clarification.

Are you saying BCT HAD to attempt to use his item?

Or he could have chosen not to use it, but if he DECIDED to use it then he had to busdrive himself?

Either way it's not the redirection I was hoping for since it still doesn't explain how a block ended up on BCT.

He didnt need to use the item
I think Changmas will verify this as well
But even if he doesnt use it, the item will disappear once the night ends

htaeD posted...

You should add that I gave BCT a self busdrive, FD

Got it

And no this sadly does not explain how he got roleblocked I think.

This is why I was so adamant on him revealing his target.

htaeD posted...

He didnt need to use the item
I think Changmas will verify this as well
But even if he doesnt use it, the item will disappear once the night ends

yes this is my understanding

This is also why I was so kind to you FD
Because I literally did give Changmas a power that lets him track and watch a person at the same time.

(I mean not all 3 of you at once obv, but still. Lol)

htaeD posted...

I wanted to see if BCT could manage to get himself killed instead of someone else lol
(No offense BCT)

I picked IGCD because I figured scum would either kill or RB him. Simple as that. I didn't know at the time that IGCD's power was one-off, but neither did scum. So I wanted to take one of scum's main actions and put it upon myself... if it had gotten me killed, I'd have lol'd too, and laughed the entire time when the meltdown of "WHY DA FUCK DID THEY KILL BCT?"

With Death confirming that he's the gift-giver, that clears him as town. I'm likely to believe Chang is town. Isquen and Wall are uncountered protection claims and thus I have to believe that they're town.

FD is very very anti-town and needs to die today. The fact that he doesn't trust my judgment further shows that he's not in a town-friendly mindset. He might as well be confirmed scum at this point.

Also Crescent told me that I would busdrive the roleblock onto myself if my target was roleblocked. And that may have been what happened.

IGCD stop consulting the scum board.

Death Diver
I can look at dead town chat once per game, for up to two hours. If I'm in longer or go in more than once, i get modkilled and day immediately ends, if it's during day time.

After taking this action, i will return negative results to any scans against me (hence i didn't believe dumey's claim since there's no "negative" to it, but didn't want to reveal at that time). Additionally, I will not reveal my role or alignment upon my death, if my death happens after I take this action.
And finally, all attempts to kill me will be successful. I cannot be protected or saved in any way.

Hence, my suggestion earlier before red revealed his stuff that i could, when i have time, go into dtc and see what info lea has shared there.

So if IGCD was targeted with a roleblocker then we would expect the teleport to be successful, and then roleblock to "successfully" target BCT, but only after his teleportation, in which case BCT would not receive a blocked message.

It would only happen if BCT was directly targetted with the roleblock and then it lands before the teleportation?

Most stuff online seems to agree that the roleblock should resolve first, but if that's the case then the roleblock should "successfully" target IGCD in which case BCT would never receive a blocked message.

Oh, thanks for asking that BCT

I couldnt ask that specifically myself since that would go beyond what a host can tell me I think.

I would scan as guilty after taking the action, obviously. Is why i called sultan's role very clever.

And i taunted ulti for not guessing the role, since it is a more balanced version of foolmo's from ulti's game.

Huh...
Can discords measure how long a person is in there?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

FD is very very anti-town and needs to die today. The fact that he doesn't trust my judgment further shows that he's not in a town-friendly mindset. He might as well be confirmed scum at this point.

What have you done at any point to give me a reason to trust you?

What have you EVER done except call me scum for pressuring you?

Not this game, not last game. I apply pressure, you call me scum. And guess what, you're wrong both times. We told you last game that you need to be able to look past someone pressuring you, and it seemed like you took that message to heart, but if you're actually town (and you might be) then you did not come nearly as far as you needed to.

I'm trying to SOLVE shit and put pieces together. That you can call me anti-town just because I don't think you deserve to be granted powers is hilarious.

Actually I wonder what would happen if I targeted an untargetable.

htaeD posted...

Huh...
Can discords measure how long a person is in there?

I assume there will be a bot or something that welcomes the people who go there, and put in a time stamp, and a bot that does something similar when they leave.

Obviously i haven't done it yet. Tbh i don't know how active dtc will be, with these dead towns we have.

PeaceFrog posted...

Death Diver
I can look at dead town chat once per game, for up to two hours. If I'm in longer or go in more than once, i get modkilled and day immediately ends, if it's during day time.

This is another uninformed DTC then? I thought those were supposed to be rare?

All I know is roleblockers take priority over anything else happening.
Though what BCt claims sounds like it makes sense to me.
Meh what a headache.

Also since I asked a few questions, I also found out that the teleporter would not flip with me if I had drove the kill onto myself and that I could be seen while using it. It was imperative that I claimed that I had received something right away in case we had a watcher on IGCD who saw me.

So I made sure I knew what I was doing before using it. IGCD was really my only choice since I figured he'd be eating one of scum's actions.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

This is another uninformed DTC then? I thought those were supposed to be rare?

Maybe he can only visit a non spoiler channel.
But even that seems tricky unless the channel is heavily modded.

Igcd i am going in a pool your silence is disappointing i will have follow up questions for you.

depending on corrik's memory, peaf's role should be unfakable

Forceful_Dragon posted...

What have you done at any point to give me a reason to trust you?

What have you EVER done except call me scum for pressuring you?

Not this game, not last game. I apply pressure, you call me scum. And guess what, you're wrong both times. We told you last game that you need to be able to look past someone pressuring you, and it seemed like you took that message to heart, but if you're actually town (and you might be) then you did not come nearly as far as you needed to.

I'm trying to SOLVE shit and put pieces together. That you can call me anti-town just because I don't think you deserve to be granted powers is hilarious.

And I'm the one you call "emotional."

Hypocrite.

I could see Corrik and Lea being chatty in dtc. Sultan, probably less so but with champs over maybe. If he has chimed in, probably good stuff.

But other than this edge case of being able to confirm the role of a dead person who didn't flip (due to scum looper), what other benefit do you expect to have by waiting to do your death dive?

wait can you only view it or can you post in it too

Well you acted as I hoped you would BCT

And no items from these kinds of roles usually dont show up on flips.

changmas posted...

depending on corrik's memory, peaf's role should be unfakable

TRUE

Forceful_Dragon posted...

This is another uninformed DTC then? I thought those were supposed to be rare?

I don't know! I've fantasized that they won't be, and you guys will only have my word to trust off of. And if I die you still don't get confirmation that I'm telling the truth about anything.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

And I'm the one you call "emotional."

Hypocrite.

You ARE emotional.

And i never claimed I wasn't emotional so that doesn't make me a hypocrite. I'm not criticizing you for having emotions, I'm criticizing you for being utterly unable to distance yourself from your emotions and have thoughts and opinions that aren't entirely based on them.

You'll notice that I think you're being dumb but I"m not VOTING you because I'm not convinced you are scum. I"m just convinced you're a bad player regardless of alignment which is why I would not give you powers.

changmas posted...

wait can you only view it or can you post in it too

Only view.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

But other than this edge case of being able to confirm the role of a dead person who didn't flip (due to scum looper), what other benefit do you expect to have by waiting to do your death dive?

Not sure if you saw the downsides?

is it bad form for me to tag him? lol

CORRIK IF YOU ARE READING THIS POST SOMETHING IN THE DEAD CHAT YOU REMEMBER FROM OUR NEIGHBOR CHAT

maybe one of the gifs you sent or something equally unguessable

BCT - Obviously town
Chang - Town
Ctes - Possible scum here
Death - Town
FD - Scum
IGCD - Town
Isquen - IDK anymore
Peaf - There's no way that's a made-up role, town
Red - Either town vig or SK, but we need more data before we lynch him
Sheep - Unknown
Ulti - Not sure tbh
Wall - Bad town

Forceful_Dragon posted...

You'll notice that I think you're being dumb but I"m not VOTING you because I'm not convinced you are scum. I"m just convinced you're a bad player regardless of alignment which is why I would not give you powers.

Meanwhile I'm pretty convinced you're scum. And it's not just because you're doubting me. It's because of, well, everything. This feels like you're trying to impersonate me when I get dysregulated.

But also: Ctes feels like he's going to his "deep wolf" self. The kind that's won games before. I don't think I like that.

changmas posted...

is it bad form for me to tag him? lol

CORRIK IF YOU ARE READING THIS POST SOMETHING IN THE DEAD CHAT YOU REMEMBER FROM OUR NEIGHBOR CHAT

maybe one of the gifs you sent or something equally unguessable

Most of the gifs were from you >_>

i remember two he sent!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/3/2/AAXBdhAAE7GI.png

Heading out to lunch for a bit but this should be up to date again.
I think we're just missing a claim from ctes and Sheep now.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Meanwhile I'm pretty convinced you're scum. And it's not just because you're doubting me. It's because of, well, everything. This feels like you're trying to impersonate me when I get dysregulated

Impersonate you how? Very little of my posts today have anything to do with you, but that's what you've latched onto and have been responding to. Meanwhile I'm trying to put the entire game in perspective because I know if I'm going to avoid being mislynched today I have to get to the bottom of last night only having a single kill.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Meanwhile I'm trying to put the entire game in perspective because I know if I'm going to avoid being mislynched today I have to get to the bottom of last night only having a single kill.

Did your scumbuddies not tell you that I've been doing this? Did you not read the whole post you quoted? Seems like my probe is going well.

The likeliest explanation is by far BCT or FD sending in the night kill.

I do agree with BCT though, ctes has not seemed like his usual self. I wont be surprised if hes scum.

When i told Wallz on d2 that if we wanted to be sweaty with this we could end the game and get all the scum then, i assumed that dtc would be informed. If they're not i will be sad, but understanding.

Lunch break. I think BCT has resolved itself in a boneheaded manner with one assumption - the claimed scum RB on IGCD N1 being powerful and extending through the day. BCT tries to cash in the bus drive on someone under RB, and gets a message that the person was RB'd at start of N1, which tracks if my assumption is correct.

Isquen posted...

I think BCT has resolved itself in a boneheaded manner with one assumption - the claimed scum RB on IGCD N1 being powerful and extending through the day. BCT tries to cash in the bus drive on someone under RB, and gets a message that the person was RB'd at start of N1, which tracks if my assumption is correct.

wut

Isquen posted...

extending through the day

I have no idea what this means