Current Events > Overwatch 2 getting annihilated on Steam. 10% positive reviews

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jesus christ

So better than expected?

I'm sure Blizzard will pressure Steam to void half of the negative reviews.

I don't play Overwatch

Is it really that bad or is this just review bombing?

Yet 18,000+ people are playing right now and it's also in the top 10 earners for Steam.

Good old gamers are always good for a laugh.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I don't play Overwatch

Is it really that bad or is this just review bombing?

if you view it in a void, its not deserving of that harsh of review. the game in and of itself is fun, for a while

the context is that overwatch 2 was a scam and there is an argument to be made for false advertisement. they basically copy/pasted overwatch 1, told people there would be PVE (which people based purchases around, which is important), and then later on said there was not gonna be any PVE after people had committed to purchases etc

given the context around this game, the reviews are fair. but, if you never played overwatch 1, and want to try overwatch 2, it is fun and the price of free is hard to beat

UnfairRepresent posted...

I don't play Overwatch

Is it really that bad or is this just review bombing?

No, it's just one of those games that have become cool to hate lately. Player count and revenue are what what matters but hose are usually ignored for clickbait purposes.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I don't play Overwatch

Is it really that bad or is this just review bombing?

It's mostly review bombing, but with a good reason.

Overwatch 1 was a full price game with lootboxes, but a decent way to get them by playing (buying lootboxes was still borderline scam).

Overwatch 2 was "upgrading" and replacing Overwatch 1 as a F2P game. It doubled down on scummy ingame purchases hard, but instead promised some great PvE content.

Some time ago, they announced not only that the planned PvE content was scraped with no replacement at all, but also that this was already decided quite a time ago, but they didn't found the words for the community.

Technically, as a game, Overwatch 2 should be fine. It's just scummy Activision business to the max.

Actually the first time I've seen "Overwhelmingly Negative" review score on Steam. I'm impressed.

Dalthine posted...

Actually the first time I've seen "Overwhelmingly Negative" review score on Steam. I'm impressed.

wait till diablo 4 gets on there xd

Dalthine posted...

Actually the first time I've seen "Overwhelmingly Negative" review score on Steam. I'm impressed.

Well to be fair, most of the games that deserve it either: go completely unnoticed because nobody in their right mind would've bought it to begin with and thus not give it enough reviews to make it overwhelmingly negative, OR it's a shitty Russian/Chinese asset-flip game with a bunch of fake positive google-translated reviews keeping it from going into the negative where it belongs.

Did the skins and other shit from OW1 transfer to OW2?

Smashingpmkns posted...

Did the skins and other shit from OW1 transfer to OW2?

Yes.

But as far as I know getting new skins was much faster in OW1 than it currently is in OW2, but maybe they already improved it by now.

Karovorak posted...

Yes.

But as far as I know getting new skins was much faster in OW1 than it currently is in OW2, but maybe they already improved it by now.

It was only much faster if you planned on dropping a lot of money. On average it would probably cost more getting the skins from loot boxes than it would just buying them off the store. They improved it in the first game by allowing you to buy the limited skins with coins later on.

I don't know if I'll get OW2, probably not

But I wish reviews got kept to just actually reviewing the game regardless of the company that made it. Makes it hard to know if a game is worth playing or not when the reviews are talking about other things

ThyCorndog posted...

I don't know if I'll get OW2, probably not

But I wish reviews got kept to just actually reviewing the game regardless of the company that made it. Makes it hard to know if a game is worth playing or not when the reviews are talking about other things

Theres basically two different types of reviews. Reviewing it as an entry in the gaming medium - is it worth my time?
and reviewing it as a product - is it worth my money?

Most of the reviews on steam at the moment fall into that second category, and are negative for a good reason because of all the false advertisement around the game leading it to be seen as a scam by the community. Its fair to review a scam negatively

$40 for a skin, get outta here.

Game is trash. First one was god tier

Yeah, it's justifiably considered a scam. It's a fun game, but most of the content was already in Overwatch 1, and they're behind microtransactions now.

And they shut down Overwatch 1's servers right before it came out, so there's no way to go back and play the first one. Plus there was a single-player campaign that was promised, and it got canceled after the game came out.

i still love the game, i play it every single day and atleast get the 3 big acheivements for the day . but tbh if i would get serious with it and actually try to rank up, i would go crazy.

Blizzard said it needed to develop OW2 because of single player content.

And then admitted that they scrapped the entire point of OW2.

Well if it's a scam, that's fair then

Their Lillith Moira skin is 40 dollars

40 dollars for a skin in a first person shooter. You can't even see it.

I'm confused, game's been out for years, right? Why is it just now getting review publicized?

I bet you the majority of those people review bombing are the same 21,170 players that are online right now playing it. A bunch of jokes these people are.
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MatzoTov posted...

I'm confused, game's been out for years, right? Why is it just now getting review publicized?

Its only very recently been added to Steam. Previously it was only available on the battle.net launcher

also, it was getting blasted last year as well when overwatch 2 initially released

Rika_Furude posted...

Its only very recently been added to Steam. Previously it was only available on the battle.net launcher

also, it was getting blasted last year as well when overwatch 2 initially released

Oh lol

As my friend who played a lot of OW1 put it "They got rid of a game I paid full retail for and replaced it with a microtransaction hellscape all under the premise of adding a mode that isn't actually coming out"

It's one of those things where the actual quality of the game is less important than the context around it. My friend won't touch OW2, even if he'd likely have fun with it, because "fuck Blizzard".

Is it WOKE

Prestoff posted...

I bet you the majority of those people review bombing are the same 21,170 players that are online right now playing it. A bunch of jokes these people are.

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Calling OW2 a scam is ridiculous. It's free to play. You pay nothing and get to play Overwatch. It only legitimately sucks that players who bought OW1 got little to nothing extra.

It is not a micro transaction hellscape. There's skins you buy with money. They're overpriced even compared to peers, but you don't have to buy them. There's also a battlepass with skins and a character, but you can unlock the character without paying for the BP.

They got rid of loot boxes in large part because of global regulations. The loot boxes were very generous and could be earned without payment, but conceptually loot boxes are far scummier than just paying for the thing you want.

Many of the reviews are from China because Blizzard can no longer operate in China, besides Diablo Immortal.

OW2 has plenty of issues and the monetization and pricing still sucks, but gamers need to get some perspective.

Who cares , it's still fun

Smackems posted...

Is it WOKE

Yes

TroutPaste posted...

Who cares , it's still fun

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ChocoboMogALT posted...

Calling OW2 a scam is ridiculous. It's free to play. You pay nothing and get to play Overwatch. It only legitimately sucks that players who bought OW1 got little to nothing extra.

It is not a micro transaction hellscape. There's skins you buy with money. They're overpriced even compared to peers, but you don't have to buy them. There's also a battlepass with skins and a character, but you can unlock the character without paying for the BP.

They got rid of loot boxes in large part because of global regulations. The loot boxes were very generous and could be earned without payment, but conceptually loot boxes are far scummier than just paying for the thing you want.

Many of the reviews are from China because Blizzard can no longer operate in China, besides Diablo Immortal.

OW2 has plenty of issues and the monetization and pricing still sucks, but gamers need to get some perspective.

Its definitely a scam because people made purchasing decisions based on false advertisement

The review bombing doesn't really mean much to me. Pissed off people like to bitch and whine, and then lots of other people join in as a meme.

The fact that Overwatch 2 was at some point the worst reviewed game on Steam, when it absolutely isn't the worst game on Steam, shows how meaningless the review system actually is.

The game is far from perfect, the microtransactions are certainly worse than loot boxes, and the gutting of PvE was a huge loss, but what is there is still a fairly solid multiplayer shooter.

lol, as it should be.

ChocoboMogALT posted...

Calling OW2 a scam is ridiculous. It's free to play. You pay nothing and get to play Overwatch. It only legitimately sucks that players who bought OW1 got little to nothing extra.

It is not a micro transaction hellscape. There's skins you buy with money. They're overpriced even compared to peers, but you don't have to buy them. There's also a battlepass with skins and a character, but you can unlock the character without paying for the BP.

They got rid of loot boxes in large part because of global regulations. The loot boxes were very generous and could be earned without payment, but conceptually loot boxes are far scummier than just paying for the thing you want.

Many of the reviews are from China because Blizzard can no longer operate in China, besides Diablo Immortal.

OW2 has plenty of issues and the monetization and pricing still sucks, but gamers need to get some perspective.

they're charging $20-40 for skins that were regular old loot box rewards for events every 2-3 months in OW. we used to get 3-6 legendary skins every event, plus a few epics, now we get 3 from the battle pass and a couple more you can spend $20+ on

before OW2 came out I had almost every cosmetic available. I bought the CE and pink mercy, but not the blizzcon skins. that was like $35 extra? and I got all the rest from playing the game. now you have to buy the battle pass and pay extra for 'special' skins that no one will care about 3 months later anyway

Rika_Furude posted...

Its definitely a scam because people made purchasing decisions based on false advertisement

They pre-purchased cosmetics for what was essentially an unreleased game? Might as well just pay extra voluntary taxes for the fun of it.
No one did that.
The kids of PvE stings, but that's ridiculous.

thronedfire2 posted...

they're charging $20-40 for skins that were regular old loot box rewards for events every 2-3 months in OW. we used to get 3-6 legendary skins every event, plus a few epics, now we get 3 from the battle pass and a couple more you can spend $20+ on

before OW2 came out I had almost every cosmetic available. I bought the CE and pink mercy, but not the blizzcon skins. that was like $35 extra? and I got all the rest from playing the game. now you have to buy the battle pass and pay extra for 'special' skins that no one will care about 3 months later anyway

So don't buy them.

I was a Grand Master in Overwatch, Still ranked in Master.

But holy fuck it's almost the same game as 1. Also, the game still has serious balancing issues imo. They are so desperate to get people to play more support heroes, so they make characters like Baptiste who can heal like crazy, and do about 80% the same damage as dedicated damage hero. That's busted. Also some tanks like Sigma and Ram are just annoying to play against.

Also, Sombra is my main and they reworked her and it looks like shit so I am retired again. I retired once immediately after they announced there was not going to be anymore PvE, came back for a few weeks to see what was new months later. Now that they reworked Sombra, I am over it. Blizzard really fucked this game.

I'm sure it's still fun to play, but man they have made so many bad decisions in this game it's incredible. Also the cosmetic prices are absolutely ungodly expensive.

ChocoboMogALT posted...

They pre-purchased cosmetics for what was essentially an unreleased game? Might as well just pay extra voluntary taxes for the fun of it.
No one did that.
The kids of PvE stings, but that's ridiculous.

So don't buy them.

You have no grounds to call it ridiculous. Whats ridiculous is that youre arguing that false advertisement is not inherently a scam by default

ChocoboMogALT posted...

They pre-purchased cosmetics for what was essentially an unreleased game? Might as well just pay extra voluntary taxes for the fun of it.
No one did that.
The kids of PvE stings, but that's ridiculous.

So don't buy them.

yeah, I don't buy them

I also don't play the game anymore.

but also good job ignoring the actual content of my entire post

Rika_Furude posted...

You have no grounds to call it ridiculous. Whats ridiculous is that youre arguing that false advertisement is not inherently a scam by default

If you want to call for a chargeback because, for lack of a less polite phrase, you lacked the foresight to wait before purchasing a skin - go for it. But that's not false advertisement and that's a ridiculous argument that's just reaching for something to complain about.
The lack of PvE is right there. OW2 could have been game of the century with the right development path, instead it's just a casual TF2 clone.

thronedfire2 posted...

yeah, I don't buy them

I also don't play the game anymore.

but also good job ignoring the actual content of my entire post

I addressed that in my first post. The removal of loot boxes was partially to contend with legislation in various countries. The change in monetization is because they game went from $40 to $0. It sucks that OW1 players lost the ability to farm old cosmetics without additional purchase. But if OW2 released without OW1 ever releasing, that wouldn't be a fault of the game.

And, again, pricing aside it's more fair to let players buy what they want for a set price than railroad them into gambling. But OW1 had a fantastic loot box system and OW2 has shitty pricing.

ChocoboMogALT posted...

If you want to call for a chargeback because, for lack of a less polite phrase, you lacked the foresight to wait before purchasing a skin - go for it. But that's not false advertisement and that's a ridiculous argument that's just reaching for something to complain about.
The lack of PvE is right there. OW2 could have been game of the century with the right development path, instead it's just a casual TF2 clone.

its not false advertisement - you are objectively wrong on this. End of story. You are in the extreme minority regarding this, and you have no valid reason to claim it was not false advertisement

ChocoboMogALT posted...

I addressed that in my first post. The removal of loot boxes was partially to contend with legislation in various countries. The change in monetization is because they game went from $40 to $0. It sucks that OW1 players lost the ability to farm old cosmetics without additional purchase. But if OW2 released without OW1 ever releasing, that wouldn't be a fault of the game.

And, again, pricing aside it's more fair to let players buy what they want for a set price than railroad them into gambling. But OW1 had a fantastic loot box system and OW2 has shitty pricing.

their loot boxes were never in danger of that because you could always buy anything from loot boxes with credits. you could also get them just from playing the game. when OW1 ended I had like 200k credits because I played a lot. that doesn't get me shit in OW2. and now OW2 has money only skins that you can never get just from playing