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Plum has ceased to exist. He was A Buddhist Monk, TOWN Mindful

Meditation brings wisdom, lack of meditation leaves ignorance. Know well what leads you forward and what holds you back, and choose the path that leads to wisdom. You are a follower of mindfulness, shedding your materialistic life for one of peace. Even though you lack a weapon, your true weapon is already inside of you.

You are a Buddhist Monk, Town Mindful

You will passively ignore most hostile actions that target you. Unfortunately, bullets cannot be ignored and you will still die if you are shot.

Alive (12):

1. BCT
2. Chang
3. Ctes
5. FD
6. IGCD
7. Peaf
8. Red
11. Ulti
12. Wall
14. Death
15. Sheep
17. Isquen

Ceased to be:
Sultan: Dick Tracy, TOWN PT Cop (LD1)
Lea: (KD1)
SBell: Joseph Gordon-Levitt, MAFIA Looper (KN1)
Corrik: Mr. Satan, TOWN Neighbor (KN1)
EDumey: Beowulf, MAFIA Dragon Chaser (LD2)
Plum: A Buddhist Monk, TOWN Mindful (KN2)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to cause someone to cease and desist. The day will end at 8pm on Thursday, October 12th.

Okay, so I found something interesting in my mailbox last night. Well leave it at that, seeing as what it was does not matter since it was roleblocked. Not sure why scum would roleblock someone who doesn't have a role tbh.

Im willing to bet that the reason we had a triple kill N1 was that SBell went and targeted Lea, TOWN PGO. I infer this from Dumeys flip. Why else would a scum assassin be bulletproof while performing a kill?

Upon reread, I tried to read Wall from a town perspective and I wasnt buying it. Nothing he said made any sense to me from a town perspective. I am fine with either him or Isquen being our lynch for today, since both are quite obvious scum.

Oh, and as for why I unvoted yesterday? Id thought Id put a vote down for FD in my first post. Which I did, but deleted before hitting post. My error! (I also will be way more active starting tomorrow real-time. But for now, I must take my leave for the night.)

##vote: Wall

First off: correcting myself in 3-401: "increasingly unlikely." I didn't catch that I said that until after end of day. Whatever.

Second off: I can infer a few things. First, night 1's target was either remarkably tight-lipped about being RB'd or had no role worth mentioning. Between that and three dead in one fell swoop, one of which was scum, I'm 95% townclearing said person. My night 2 target, meanwhile, I have a gut feeling on them being scummy, yet I also have reason to believe someone I have townread will have taken a tracking or cop action upon them - hopefully the former, so they can corroborate my visit (and save their own life as well, probably.)

Third, wallz has done nothing town-friendly this game thus far and keeps poking the bear. I do believe he needs to go, unless someone from my cell wants to come forth and speak their peace.

Very interesting and quite convenient...

I was starting to come around on the possibility of Wallz being town overnight from t1, but i won't have time to complete my reread until later tonight. I'm curious if there's anything you can point to for that vibe, Isquen. And welcome to the game!

Isquen posted...

cop action

We killed cop d1 btw

No, you lot killed a ""cop."" That would be a positive result for Mafia but also the Corrik/FD/chang menage a triple.

where i'm at currently. this is prob too easy but hey it's a starting point

Town
Chang
IGCD
Ulti
Death (but sheep/peaf should clear)

Likely Town
Peaf
BCT

Lean Town
Red
FD
Isquen

Mzero Inactive
Sheep

POE
Wallz
Ctes

just neighbors, not masons

i think it's somewhat likely we're all town but can't fully rule out him being scum

well the functional difference is that one of the three of us could have been scum all along

Isquen posted...

No, you lot killed a ""cop."" That would be a positive result for Mafia but also the Corrik/FD/chang menage a triple.

It never would have happened if Sultan hadn't made up that bullshit about 24 hour no talky.

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Anyways my headspace right now is figuring out (A) who benefits from targeting Plum last night and (B) what conceivable action exists for plum's role to have interacted with.

I'm not coming up with much on both of those questions at the moment, but I'm giving it a think. Plum didn't say a whole ton day 2 so perhaps someone just had him pegged on a power role? It's thin.

this is guaranteed town vanilla ulti btw dont even think about lynching him

and actually listen to me this time unlike day 1 where you lynched sultan despite my request

UltimaterializerX posted...

Uh.

I truly dont see a functional difference and Ive been calling you lot confirmed town in my head since day 1 or whatever.

Then that's a mistake

Even now I'm only 99% convinced Chang is town. Something came up that pushes that to damn near 99.9% but the fact that it doesn't say "Mason" has to count for some kind of consideration.

also my current prevailing crackpot theory on why scum would kill plum is maybe unfair to try and meta. but i'm guessing Sheepfear? it was unclear who he would be replacing and plum was the natural assumption due to...reasons.

who would be afraid of sheep though? Death, that's who.

but I digress

UltimaterializerX posted...

Death is afraid of Sheep but he in your top town tier.

Yeah Im going to sleep.

:)

doing my lopen impression just in case

With 18 we are looking at what, probably 5 or 6 scum. We have 2 down leaving us 3 or 4 in 12.

If anyone wants to admit to being third party that can win with town now is your opportunity to help fuck over scum.

D1 votals:
[6] Sultan - (IGCD), (Death), (Dumey), (Lea), red, (Corrik), Lea, Dumey, Peaf, FD, Wallz
[3] FD - (red), (BCT), (Plum), IGCD, BCT, Plum
[2] Wallz - Chang, (Peaf), Death
[2] Abacus/Isquen - Ulti, (Wallz), (Corrik), (IGCD), Sultan, (Lea), (chang), (Wallz), (FD)
[2] Dumey - Abacus, (Sultan), (IGCD), Corrik
[1] Plum - MZero/Sheep, (Sultan)
[0] No Lynch - (Plum), (Plum)
[0] Corrik - (Dumey)
[0] BCT - (Ulti), (Lea), (Corrik), (Lea)
[0] Sbell - (BCT), (Peaf), (Wallz)
[0] Ulti - (Peaf), (Sultan), (IGCD), (Corrik)
[0] Peaf - (Dumey)
[0] Death - (Sultan)

D2 Votals:
[7] Dumey - (Ulti), Chang, Ulti, IGCD, Wallz, BCT, death, Peaf
[0] Wallz - (Peaf)
[0] Abacus - (Ulti), (IGCD), (Ulti)
[0] Lea??? - (Chang)

Plum's flip gave us very little info, other than removing him from the poe because i was going to come into today with some questions for him. He targeted fd on day 1 and me on day 2.

Ulti - one of the other key differences besides them not being positive of each other's alignments is that when a neighbor dies, they are removed from the chat. I think masons would stay.

changmas posted...

this is guaranteed town vanilla ulti btw dont even think about lynching him

I said it yesterday and i think wallz engaged me a bit on it, but i seriously don't see it.

T1pg1: hilarious that Ulti said he wanted a very active day 1, when his start of day activity (spam posting) is the only thing going for him in this department. He never took his vote off of abacus on day 1 (from POST 41 of the entire game), after first voting for bct for bullshit "pressure testing". He was a complete non factor in deciding who got lynched day 1, and he was slightly more present on day 2 but not exactly a bastion of presence. And yet he's got the balls to attack inactives and complain that he's being targeted just for being "active". The most notable things he did on d1, imo, are that he gave bct a pat on the back for saying that he thought the disney talk was bad, but then ulti totally ignored the actual analysis that i did re: likelihoods of aligning alignments between fd and red; and that he asked sbell a question early on to which sbell's reply was what made me want to kill sbell. The notable thing about this is that sbell completely forgot about making that post.

T1pg2:
Bct says, quote: "I'm pretty desensitized to it at this point, and honestly I don't give a fuck if you lynch me or not."
Maybe he was only like that when his buddies were giving him attention, because he was not like that at all when Wallz was on his case d2 at a time when it was physically impossible for bct to get lynched!

I seriously would not be surprised if Ulti and bct were 2 of the remaining scum.

UltimaterializerX posted...

We could just mass and win at this point.

This is true. I can go first if we get enough interest.

Frankly, Ulti, you should be embarrassed if you don't know my role yet

Either that or you haven't read the game

PeaceFrog posted...

I seriously would not be surprised if Ulti and bct were 2 of the remaining scum.

Chang is calling him guaranteed town vanilla is my pause here.

If becoming enlightened leads to deleting your gamefaqs account, I choose the path of ignorance

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Okay, so I found something interesting in my mailbox last night. Well leave it at that, seeing as what it was does not matter since it was roleblocked. Not sure why scum would roleblock someone who doesn't have a role tbh.

So first bold part you claim to have been told an action on you was roleblocked? And then second bold part you seem to be claiming scum roleblocked you despite your vanilla claim? And if theres any truth to this why would you assume it was a scum roleblock?

oh i'm saying guaranteed not because of any information i have but simply based on prior experience with ulti

I will admit to being absolute cat piss at reading Ulti

BCT is fine

only thing is just who RB'd him, whether or not it was isquen

no one needs to clarify BCT, trust me on this

only just who rb'd him

Scum rber, please come out and tell us why you chose to make one of the most illogical night actions of all time and i promise we won't laugh at you for it

I thought vanillas don't get told that they're blocked, anyway

PeaceFrog posted...

I thought vanillas don't get told that they're blocked, anyway

oh right i forgot about this ok

BCT is 99.99% town just trust me on this. all will be revealed in due time

and i would prefer if he didn't share any more info for no reason

I will trust you on this and let it go, Chang.

I'm still not sold on Ulti whatsoever.

Ulti is just a soul read for me

BCT I have legitimate evidence to support, I just would prefer not to share at this time

I think the play is probably kill ctes.

But I also want to know who isquen targeted.

So my headspace currently is that I want wallz to be scum because that would help me make the most sense of the end of day 1. Otherwise the next most probable reason for the Sultan switch is that they believed in the 24 hour thing and thought it made him some kind of powerful 3rd party? If not, then why bother to influence the day 1 lynch at all?

I also want ulti to be scum because he annoys me. Not only in general, but the only thing I know about his play this game is that he's said repeatedly that he's town. Anything else? I'm not sure. Just that one note on loop

I also wouldn't mind if red were scum because he's felt pretty disengaged and that would be a convenient way to explain his detachment.

But those are things that I'd like to be true and aren't necessarily so just because it fits what I want. Tomorrow I'll get deeper in day 1-2 and look for something more tangible.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Anything else? I'm not sure. Just that one note on loop

He also gave bct a big pat on the back for saying that he (bct) didn't like the disney talk. And he (Ulti) also complained that inactive players are getting a free pass this game.

PeaceFrog posted...

He also gave bct a big pat on the back for saying that he (bct) didn't like the disney talk. And he (Ulti) also complained that inactive players are getting a free pass this game.

I mean I somewhat agree with the inactive thing, but we DID lynch an inactive day 1 and we probably would have spent more time on them day 2 if dumey wasn't caught red handed.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I also wouldn't mind if red were scum because he's felt pretty disengaged and that would be a convenient way to explain his detachment.

Not as disengaged as you think. Combination of playoffs, an unplanned theme park visit that i overexerted myself, and then other things. But not as disengaged as you might think.

changmas posted...

only thing is just who RB'd him, whether or not it was isquen

Nope, not me, unless he targeted who I did. If he did, would that fit into your evidence? Because for me, it would cause me doubt on one of the parties involved.

changmas posted...

Ulti is just a soul read for me

BCT I have legitimate evidence to support, I just would prefer not to share at this time

Wasn't going to share anything further at this time. I haven't seen what I've needed yet.

To repeat: I am vanilla. I found something interesting in my mailbox last night. This something interesting was roleblocked.

My vote on Wall stands since he's twisting my words in ways he knows aren't true. I figured it was scum since I'm town, but it could be harmful town doing it to itself as well, and I worded it the way I did to see if I could get a town claim to have messed up. But it looks like it was scum.

If you had a roleblock, Wall, now would be the time to admit you used it to help scum out.

See you in the morning!

Isquen posted...

Nope, not me, unless he targeted who I did.

oh yeah, that's totally possible if he just got a generic "action failed" outcome instead of an explicit "you were roleblocked" message and assumed.

in fact that makes way way more sense than anyone, town or scum, choosing to roleblock BCT

Isquen posted...

Nope, not me, unless he targeted who I did. If he did, would that fit into your evidence? Because for me, it would cause me doubt on one of the parties involved.

Everyone being cryptic is irritating if you are all going to tiotoe in some fashion with what you have i wish you'd hurry it up.

i don't have anything incriminating on anyone today

i'm very convinced that BCT is town without needing any additional explanation. currently i feel that solving this RB situation is productive for figuring out the game but i'm also open to pressuring wallz / someone else to claim if we want to go that avenue