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dave_is_slick 10/09/23 12:32:07 AM #151: |
AceMos posted...
yes we all know what your views on woman areHuh? Unless I'm thinking of somebody else, this is a wild accusation. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 10/09/23 12:36:04 AM #152: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Huh? Unless I'm thinking of somebody else, this is a wild accusation.that's the "lara got a reduction" guy --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 12:37:05 AM #153: |
AceMos posted... yes we all know what your views on woman are ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 10/09/23 12:37:43 AM #154: |
Skye Reynolds is the Lara got a reduction guy.
Now I'm not observant of alts and the like but I don't think that's him? --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 12:38:43 AM #155: |
dave_is_slick posted...
Huh? Unless I'm thinking of somebody else, this is a wild accusation.read his posts through out this topic you will see his views on woman crystal clear --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 12:39:23 AM #156: |
If you're ever curious whether or not someone is an alt, just put them on block. If both accounts disappear, it means they're the same person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 12:47:15 AM #157: |
AceMos posted... read his posts through out this topic you will see his views on woman crystal clear Mary Jane Watson is not the designated representative of all women. She's a specific character. Conceptually, she represents the girl you had a crush on in high school or the woman that you had a crush on in college. And, yes, at that age, some of that attraction at least is going to be based upon appearance. They could reveal that there's so much more to her character than looks. Instead, they opt to downgrade her looks or demote her role in the story. She may just be a friend instead of a love interest. Or, at worst, an unwanted obligation for writers who don't want her but are obligated to include her. It's okay for a woman to be physically attractive, but it's not okay for her to be physically attractive. She's the example of all that's wrong with comic book love interests. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 12:51:51 AM #158: |
thats the thing she is still attractive but your warped views on woman make you see her as ugly
--- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/09/23 12:53:07 AM #159: |
FortuneCookie posted...
Mary Jane Watson is not the designated representative of all women. She's a specific character.Bro, I don't think there's some agenda behind them not picking a face model that was hot enough for you --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 10/09/23 12:54:52 AM #160: |
I'm not sure how her role is a demotion at all. She's in the journalist role that Peter Parker himself typically fills. It gives her directly something to do and gives her agency in the plot while also solving the issue of having Peter Parker having to do journalist stuff instead of being Spider-man.
If she's a super model in the video game she'd have jack shit to do outside of being rescued or being a nag. I also don't really see how she's not physically attractive? She's very obviously supposed to be a catch in the video game. She's just more like a Lois Lane and Vicki Vale in this depiction. There's a reason comic book love interests are either reporters or thieves in superhero stories. It works. Maybe you are Skye Reynolds because this is pretty familiar heh --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 1:02:40 AM #161: |
hockeybub89 posted... Bro, I don't think there's some agenda behind them not picking a face model that was hot enough for you The comics look for excuses to write her out. She doesn't exist in the movies. Zendaya would've been perfect for the role. The last time she was considered for a role in a movie, they wanted her to be played by Shailene Woodley. The animated movies replace her with Gwen. She is a pariah as far as they are concerned. Why? Because she's known for being hot, she's known for being a damsel in distress, and she's known for inconsistent characterizations including being a needless ball-breaker. She's everything a progressive could hate when it comes to female representation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 1:17:39 AM #162: |
FortuneCookie posted...
he animated movies replace her with Gwen.uhhh no marry jane is in the spiderverse movies and married to peter --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 1:20:31 AM #163: |
AceMos posted... uhhh no marry jane is in the spiderverse movies and married to peter Oh... Well, I own the first one on DVD. I may have to give it a watch now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/09/23 1:22:00 AM #164: |
I have no idea who Skye Reynolds is, but Fortune has a very known history of whining that comic book/video game/whatever women aren't hot enough for him, and how it's some conspiracy or agenda or whatever.
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AceMos 10/09/23 1:22:15 AM #165: |
FortuneCookie posted...
Oh...so you just bitched about movies you have not even seen now i question if you have even played the insomniac games --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 1:25:09 AM #166: |
AceMos posted... so you just bitched about movies you have not even seen I didn't complain about the movies. I just haven't seen them. Gwen was featured prominently in the advertising, but not MJ. I was mistaken in assuming she wasn't a part of them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 10/09/23 1:25:35 AM #167: |
StealThisSheen posted...
I have no idea who Skye Reynolds is, but Fortune has a very known history of whining that comic book/video game/whatever women aren't hot enough for him, and how it's some conspiracy or agenda or whatever. Skey Reynolds at the very least was the account who posted the 'Tifa got a reduction' post which became a copypasta. Another odd take was they refused to watch Spider-man Homecoming because the Tinkerer was a villain in it and they had never heard of the Tinkerer before so it was a bad choice. FortuneCookie posted... I didn't complain about the movies. I just haven't seen them. Because Gwen being Spider-Woman in an alternate dimension is the literal plot point in a movie about alternate dimensions crossing over. This is drawn from a popular spin-off comic where Gwen is bit from the spider instead of Peter. She's also the love interest of Miles in these movies. The one who is most similar to the traditional Peter Parker is all about MJ. Seriously why made these weird ass posts about MJ being erased when you're basing your opinions on the marketing? --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 1:29:47 AM #168: |
FortuneCookie posted...
I didn't complain about the movies. I just haven't seen them.its not even normal gwen in the spiderverse films its spidergwen a popular character from the comics who is from an alt universe and you did not answer me have you even PLAYED the insomniac spiderman game --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 1:31:25 AM #169: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
Because Gwen being Spider-Woman in an alternate dimension is the literal plot point in a movie about alternate dimensions crossing over.oh and dont forget in the comics spidergwns MJ is bi and has a crush on gwen (and gwen may or may not be bi in the comics) --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 10/09/23 1:31:38 AM #170: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
Skey Reynolds at the very least was the account who posted the 'Tifa got a reduction' post which became a copypasta. Aaah. Fortune's most recent meltdown was over how much they hate any time April O'Neil isn't a sexualized reporter, even though that actually makes up the minority of her appearances. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 1:34:02 AM #171: |
AceMos posted... and you did not answer me have you even PLAYED the insomniac spiderman game No. Of course I didn't. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 1:35:32 AM #172: |
FortuneCookie posted...
No. Of course I didn't.so you are legit throwing a tantrum about a game you have never played --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 10/09/23 1:36:12 AM #173: |
It should probably also be pointed out that FortuneCookie is complaining about MJ always being replaced in a topic about a sequel to game where MJ is the main female character, has several segments where she is playable and Gwen doesn't have a single appearance or reference.
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StealThisSheen 10/09/23 1:37:24 AM #174: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
It should probably also be pointed out that FortuneCookie is complaining about MJ always being replaced in a topic about a sequel to game where MJ is the main female character, has several segments where she is playable and Gwen doesn't have a single appearance or reference. A game they literally just admitted to never playing, of course. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 1:42:04 AM #175: |
StealThisSheen posted... Aaah. That is not true. The original April O'Neil was not a reporter and was not overly sexualized as far as I know. (I never made it far into the original comics.) I'm more annoyed at them de-aging her when she's supposed to be an adult. And I dislike how there is NO consistency with the character. In five adaptations, she might be an adult in three of them, wear glasses in two of them, wear yellow in four of them, be a reporter in two of them, etc. She represents the way that writers fail to take a character personality and history into account when dealing with female characters. Most male characters have at least one or two attributes which always carry over. Michelangelo is always the party dude. Raphael is always the jerk. April has nothing consistent. Nothing that defines her as a character beyond being a girl and a friend of the Turtles. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 1:46:15 AM #176: |
FortuneCookie posted...
That is not true. The original April O'Neil was not a reporter and was not overly sexualized as far as I know. (I never made it far into the original comics.) I'm more annoyed at them de-aging her when she's supposed to be an adult. And I dislike how there is NO consistency with the character.let me guess your sole exposure to the turtles is the 87 cartoon and the 90s films most incarnations of april are a normal woman who gets roped into a ninja fued and becomes a bad ass ninja herself guess which ones ignore that the cartoon and films you are basing your opinions on --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 1:54:29 AM #177: |
AceMos posted... let me guess your sole exposure to the turtles is the 87 cartoon and the 90s films And the original comics. And the 2003 series. And the 2007 animated movie. And the first ten episodes of the 2k12 series before I peaced out on it. I can tell you that she's a fighter in most interpretations including the 1987 series by way of the video game continuations. I can also say that she was multicultural in the original comics. The artists went back and forth between making her half-Asian or half-Italian. But she was originally Black. She was not, however, a teenager. most incarnations of april are a normal woman who gets roped into a ninja fued and becomes a bad ass ninja herself And that was never a complaint of mine. I don't get where you seem to think that I have a problem with her being able to fight. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 2:01:10 AM #178: |
i was pointing out the most common aspect of the character
her being a teenager in recent times is just making her fit in more with the turtles and the found family dynamic she forms with them and splinter comes across better with her as a teen (not that adults cant form a found family dynamic) --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 2:02:36 AM #179: |
In any event, it's two o'clock in the fucking morning and my obliging you in further conversation isn't going to change how Mary Jane looks in the game. In case you're wondering, her character model in the first game is one of the reasons I passed on it. The other is that I don't own a current gen console. Money goes to other things like Orlando vacations or keeping the lights on in my house. The only game in the past three years that has really called to me is the Cowabunga Collection and I already own 70% of the games on their original consoles. But if I were to drop money on a Spider-Man game, yeah, I would hope that Mary Jane Watson was in it and was attractive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 2:05:52 AM #180: |
AceMos posted... i was pointing out the most common aspect of the character There are a couple of "all but one or two" aspects. She wears yellow in most interpretations aside from the 2003 series. She has a McDonald's arch for a lip in all but one or two versions. Her age, ethnicity, profession, personality, and relative role to the heroes is all over the place. Anyway, goodnight. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wandering__Hero 10/09/23 3:55:08 AM #181: |
On one hand I admit I was being mean and taking a cheap shot based on the replies on page 1 I thought "fuck it, people have already started with cheap shots when in Rome and all that".
On the other hand when have pretty people as opposed to ugly people pushed for a less pretty design in the name of realism? Like if you're pretty you're more likely view being pretty as realistic and if your ugly the reverse is true, and it is true the later attitude is disproportionately stronger on Tumblr and Twitter. Espeically when Tumblr gambled it could get rid of porn of pretty woman without touching any of the porn THEY liked. And then it was fucking hilarious seeing anti porn "activists" leave after getting what they wanted applied to them and being too thirsty to want to keep using the site. Like you can pull the "if you care about devlopers making woman in video games less pretty to appeal to Tumblr and Twitter users who are a smaller portion of the game's audience then you're a loser who isn't sexy enough" but if you're going for a cheap shot like that you're opening yourself for a cross counter --- Rip Politics board. Not that anything on there actually mattered ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 4:02:50 AM #182: |
Wandering__Hero posted...
On one hand I admit I was being mean and taking a cheap shot based on the replies on page 1 I thought "fuck it, people have already started with cheap shots when in Rome and all that".once again MJ in this game is not ugly this is the problem with ppl like you your standards are so high and again its why no one will date you --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wandering__Hero 10/09/23 4:06:11 AM #183: |
I love how you get mad at that wall comment but go for a "well no one would date you anyway". Guess you must be shoving up hard against that wall. Given how angry you are and how much you care about this is it unreasonable to assume you're not exactly being swarmed by men?
Like fuck you can all pull the "You only care about this because you a dateless loser and how dare you imply I'm not attractive" card but I doubt anyone debating this for hours is a casanova --- Rip Politics board. Not that anything on there actually mattered ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 10/09/23 6:27:37 AM #184: |
I mean is it really that bad to just be like 'I want unrealistically attractive men and women in my video games'? I like it. Men, women, everyone should look good or distinct.
MJ in this and the first spidey looked terrible compared to her other appearances. Pete and Felicia looked great(but I got a bias for Felicia so maybe I am incorrect in my thoughts there). I like attractive characters lmao. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 10/09/23 7:00:54 AM #185: |
We could nip all this in the bud, if they just throw out MJ all together and gave us Tigra in the game. Now that isn't one of Pete's love interest but who can complain about her.
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BurmesePenguin 10/09/23 7:22:34 AM #186: |
Maybe Felicity wasn't lying about Peter having a son with her.
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cjsdowg 10/09/23 7:36:53 AM #187: |
BurmesePenguin posted...
Maybe Felicity wasn't lying about Peter having a son with her. Since she has superpowers maybe she won't get sick due to Peter's vile seed. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 10/09/23 7:37:59 AM #188: |
Does she have superpowers?
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ViewtifulGrave 10/09/23 7:45:50 AM #189: |
AceMos posted...
thats the thing she is still attractive but your warped views on woman make you see her as uglyJust because you find her attractive doesnt mean someone else will. You know that old saying beauty is in the eye of the beholder. --- Useless "Captain" Mid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/09/23 7:47:39 AM #190: |
Kinda funny to see people crying about character erasure because a woman is only "pretty" instead of "unrealistically attractive" and nothing more than something for another character to screw and players to masturbate to.
Simultaneously crying about a video game character not being respected while also wanting them to be nothing more than pussy on a pedestal. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 10/09/23 7:48:50 AM #191: |
BurmesePenguin posted...
Does she have superpowers? Wow like she has some Luck based powers. So she might get lucky and not die from Peter's Seed. All seed jokes aside she had powers in the cartoon. And I just assumed that any other time we saw her she had powers too. Since she keeps up with Spider-Man and other superpowered beings. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 10/09/23 7:50:09 AM #192: |
Well her role in the video game canon is minor, but I don't remember it being said she has any powers. I think she's just a really good burgler with a sniffable butt.
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Slayer_22 10/09/23 7:53:27 AM #193: |
hockeybub89 posted...
Kinda funny to see people crying about character erasure because a woman is only "pretty" instead of "unrealistically attractive" and nothing more than something for another character to screw and players to masturbate to.I want to clarify that I'm not crying nor am I looking to screw or masturbate to them. I want physically attractive characters in my video games is all lmao. Just personal preference. Guys and girls. Doesn't matter either way, just a preference. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 10/09/23 8:45:02 AM #194: |
Punished_Blinx posted...
Skye Reynolds is the Lara got a reduction guy.FortuneCookie is Skye Reynolds --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 10/09/23 10:30:39 PM #195: |
Both Felicia and MJ have powers in the comics. I think Felicia has always had powers. MJ got powers sometime during the 2010s I think. I think she calls herself Jackpot. It might be similar powers to Felicia. But I don't know the details. Just guessing based on her name. I haven't read any Spider-Man comics from the past 10 years really. I need to catch up on that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/09/23 10:32:10 PM #196: |
Zikten posted...
Both Felicia and MJ have powers in the comics. I think Felicia has always had powers. MJ got powers sometime during the 2010s I think. I think she calls herself Jackpot. It might be similar powers to Felicia. But I don't know the details. Just guessing based on her name.jackpot was not MJ she just now recently got powers --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 10/09/23 11:27:04 PM #197: |
Zikten posted...
I haven't read any Spider-Man comics from the past 10 years really. I need to catch up on that On of the last things that happened. Peter and MJ --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Chillscream123 10/09/23 11:51:31 PM #198: |
Nothing wrong with wanting unrealistically attractive people in video games and fiction. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FortuneCookie 10/09/23 11:54:35 PM #199: |
If she can't be Jackpot, superhero Mary Jane should have a tiger theme. >_> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 10/09/23 11:56:50 PM #200: |
FortuneCookie posted...
If she can't be Jackpot, superhero Mary Jane should have a tiger theme.Does Pete have a thing for Spiders and Cats, then? Damn. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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