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CruelBuffalo 10/07/23 5:09:19 PM #1: |
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008Zulu 10/07/23 5:10:57 PM #2: |
So they tried to introduce a bill to make something illegal, that was already illegal?
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Crimson_Corsair 10/07/23 5:12:32 PM #3: |
I'm confused... is this good or bad?
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David1988 10/07/23 5:13:28 PM #4: |
Crimson_Corsair posted...
I'm confused... is this good or bad? --- "The age of men is over, the time of women have come" - God ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 10/07/23 5:14:21 PM #5: |
Jarvis, calculate the caste makeup of the Hindu American Foundation leadership
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Null_Gain 10/07/23 5:24:56 PM #7: |
I didn't think ultra conservative Hindis had that kind of political leverage in California.
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Doom_Art 10/07/23 5:30:48 PM #8: |
Extremely disappointing.
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Solar_Crimson 10/07/23 5:32:13 PM #9: |
They say that caste discrimination is already covered by existing laws, but it was clearly an issue if an entirely separate bill had to be created to address it.
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JuanCarlos1 10/07/23 5:34:15 PM #10: |
Sounds like something thats already outlawed BUT they still practice it between themselves...because duh Indian caste applies only to Indians
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C_Pain 10/07/23 5:44:05 PM #11: |
You would think Hinduism is about being chill. How does the caste system manifest in the US though?
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Doe 10/07/23 5:44:10 PM #12: |
https://theprint.in/opinion/hindu-americans-are-in-denial-about-caste-its-been-in-religious-scriptures-for-long/1158840/
The HAF is only one of several diaspora groups drawing their battle lines in response to public allegations of caste discrimination in the American workplace, including educational institutions.The denial of caste discrimination by groups like HAF is contradicted by data as collected by groups by Equality Labs, and by the common experience of Dalits. The point of this kind of law isn't to discriminate against Indian-Americans, it's to protect Indian-Americans from discrimination. Newsom asserting that the law already covers this is really sketchy since as far as I can tell there's not really precedent and that CISCO case is still ongoing. I have to cynically imagine this is somehow related to his presidential aspirations because he's been vetoing many common-sense rights and justice laws. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 10/07/23 5:49:49 PM #13: |
newsom fuckin sucks
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Doom_Art 10/07/23 5:54:27 PM #14: |
I'm curious as to which caste the leadership of the Hindu American Foundation comes from
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Doe 10/07/23 6:03:53 PM #15: |
Null_Gain posted...
I didn't think ultra conservative Hindis had that kind of political leverage in California. C_Pain posted... You would think Hinduism is about being chill. How does the caste system manifest in the US though?80% of Indian-Americans who identify as a caste, identify as an upper caste e.g. Brahmin. But only 5% of Indians in India are Brahmin. Caste can indicate a family's historical job class and therefore stuff like wealth and prestige (since that's basically what caste is, a person's role in the functioning of society and religion, to the point of segregated living spaces and resource allocation, kinda like European feudalism of peasants vs monks vs lords). There doesn't seem to be as much research on this topic as I'd like, but the way the pieces fit together to me is that
Another wrinkle is that when the British occupied India, they used the caste system as a blueprint to enforce their order basically. And so opposing that and turning around many legal caste enforcement measures is a significant part of modern Indian national identity. Nonetheless, inequality and discrimination in implicit or explicit ways remain. I don't want to make it out to be 1:1 because it's not, but you can see parallels to American inequality & discrimination issues, down to the rhetoric that deniers use. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fenriswolf 10/07/23 7:59:56 PM #17: |
The lengths US politicians go to suck up to the far-right ultranationalist government in India and their supporters is rather pathetic to see. They even let the Indian government off buy off cheap Russian oil in spite of sanctions, and now Modi is emboldened to assassinate Sikh separatists in broad daylight.
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Ruvan22 10/08/23 10:06:08 PM #18: |
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Enclave 10/08/23 10:09:22 PM #19: |
Solar_Crimson posted...
They say that caste discrimination is already covered by existing laws, but it was clearly an issue if an entirely separate bill had to be created to address it. I don't know if it's an issue or not there but this logic is super flawed. Completely pointless bills get made all the time for political narrative reasons. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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