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chaos_knight 10/05/23 3:13:22 PM #1: |
Beyond past the creepy comments about waiting for girls to turn 18 and supporting his rapist friend in Danny Masterson. He encouraged his then wife Demi Moore to break her 20 year alcoholic sobriety by saying he didn't think it was a real thing. Then later encouraged her to get into threesomes, but then using it as an excuse to cheat on her without her there. Just destroyed her self esteem for years.
He's not criminally liable like Masterson, but he is way more of an asshole than I thought. Practically everyone on That 70's Show was, except for Topher Grace. Who ironically got criticized for acting like a diva for not wanting to hang out with the rest of his cast ever. Not sure I can watch that show again at this point, and it was one of my favorites. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmilyTheCEman 10/05/23 3:16:00 PM #2: |
Source for all this?
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Null_Gain 10/05/23 3:17:31 PM #3: |
Wilmer Valdarrama (Fez) also has had a lot of sketchy behavior come to light. Maybe not criminal but not good
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MICHALECOLE 10/05/23 3:19:04 PM #4: |
Thats it Im never watching another Ashton Kutcher movie again ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 10/05/23 3:19:17 PM #5: |
What about Donna?
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 3:19:43 PM #6: |
EmilyTheCEman posted...
Source for all this? https://people.com/movies/demi-moore-claims-ashton-kutcher-questioned-alcoholism/ "Ashton said, I dont know if alcoholisms a thing. I think its about moderation,' Moore claimed. If I had stayed close to working my program I, of course, lived the majority of my adult life sober. I was great sober. https://www.mercurynews.com/2023/09/11/demi-moores-painful-memories-of-ashton-kutcher-include-his-cheating-at-danny-mastersons-party/ --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weezy_Tha_Don 10/05/23 3:20:37 PM #7: |
Null_Gain posted...
Wilmer Valdarrama (Fez) also has had a lot of sketchy behavior come to light. Maybe not criminal but not good dude had a show on mtv or something where they told yo momma jokes lol. seems like a huge douche --- http://i.imgur.com/hwZyGuA.jpg - courtesy of the homie United_World born in this world crying, but die laughing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 3:20:52 PM #8: |
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
What about Donna? Masterson got her into Scientology but that's about it. She's good otherwise apparently. Also read that the actors playing Kitty and Red also voiced leniency for Masterson, which I hadn't read about. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 10/05/23 3:23:04 PM #10: |
More like ASSton Kutcher.
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Null_Gain 10/05/23 3:26:04 PM #11: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
dude had a show on mtv or something where they told yo momma jokes lol. seems like a huge douche I remember that. I thought he did a good job in his role in the From Dusk til Dawn tv show ( --- Series S + Switch "Don't steal, stop being ignorant and respect other peoples beliefs." -perthboy on flying a Nazi flag ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 10/05/23 3:26:55 PM #12: |
It was a bad move for Demi's sobriety marrying someone who drinks and was 7 years old when she went sober.
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 3:28:26 PM #13: |
LeoRavus posted...
It was a bad move for Demi's sobriety marrying someone who drinks and was 7 years old when she went sober. He was 27 and she was 42. It's not that unheard of. You make it sound like you're blaming her. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeoRavus 10/05/23 3:29:30 PM #14: |
chaos_knight posted...
He was 27 and she was 42. It's not that unheard of. You make it sound like you're blaming her. Blaming her for choosing to drink? Nah, that couldn't possibly be her fault. --- This is where cool people write stuff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 10/05/23 3:32:12 PM #15: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
dude had a show on mtv or something where they told yo momma jokes lol. seems like a huge doucheI kinda feel like telling yo momma jokes to (presumably) willing participants is nowhere near on the same level as the other peoples' stuff... --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bsp77 10/05/23 3:43:32 PM #17: |
chaos_knight posted...
He was 27 and she was 42. It's not that unheard ofThat is all their age gap was? Wow, why did I think it was so much bigger? --- Currently playing: Armored Core VI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 3:45:57 PM #18: |
bsp77 posted...
That is all their age gap was? Wow, why did I think it was so much bigger? She was a celebrity since Moonlighting and he played a teenager on a comedy show. Easy to think it was a far larger gap. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 10/05/23 3:46:21 PM #19: |
Trumble posted...
I kinda feel like telling yo momma jokes to (presumably) willing participants is nowhere near on the same level as the other peoples' stuff... Yeah, is this really a point of contention? Outdated and lame humor? Sure, but cringeworthy at best. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 10/05/23 3:46:43 PM #20: |
chaos_knight posted... except for Topher Grace.Sorry who ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 3:47:47 PM #21: |
Axiom posted...
Sorry who Actor most famous for ruining the original Spiderman movie franchise as Venom. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Korey 10/05/23 3:48:27 PM #22: |
Give it to me straight... what's wrong with David Spade?
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El_Marsh 10/05/23 3:48:47 PM #23: |
bsp77 posted...
That is all their age gap was? Wow, why did I think it was so much bigger?Because it was like 20 years ago and nobody should reasonably remember the details of random celebrity shit? --- http://i.imgur.com/0APl48O.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bsp77 10/05/23 3:48:54 PM #24: |
chaos_knight posted...
She was a celebrity since Moonlighting and he played a teenager on a comedy show. Easy to think it was a far larger gap.I just remember everyone making a huge deal out of it. Was it just because SHE was 15 years older? --- Currently playing: Armored Core VI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 10/05/23 3:49:45 PM #25: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
dude had a show on mtv or something where they told yo momma jokes lol. seems like a huge doucheIt was literally called 'Yo Momma' and it was a hilarious show. He would go to different cities and have people compete to see who came up with the best jokes. Then the top 2 would have off, and the winner got $1,000. --- PSN - NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 10/05/23 3:50:51 PM #26: |
chaos_knight posted... Actor most famous for ruining the original Spiderman movie franchise as Venom.Never heard of him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 3:50:56 PM #27: |
bsp77 posted...
I just remember everyone making a huge deal out of it. Was it just because SHE was 15 years older? Maybe. The 90's and 00's are so alien, looking back on how we all acted. Using 'gay' as an insult was a common term still. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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El_Marsh 10/05/23 3:51:32 PM #28: |
bsp77 posted...
I just remember everyone making a huge deal out of it. Was it just because SHE was 15 years older?People murmured when Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas married because of their 25 year age gap. She was 30ish when they hitched. --- http://i.imgur.com/0APl48O.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 10/05/23 3:52:36 PM #29: |
You're only just now discovering the guy behind Punk'd was an asshole?
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Nirvanas_Nox 10/05/23 3:53:17 PM #30: |
chaos_knight posted...
Maybe. The 90's and 00's are so alien, looking back on how we all acted. Using 'gay' as an insult was a common term still. Except people still use it that way. Not condoning it but it still happens. --- Make sure not to bleed over the discs.- Xiciassa NOT IN MY CANTINA! - Bartender ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bsp77 10/05/23 3:53:56 PM #31: |
chaos_knight posted...
Maybe. The 90's and 00's are so alien, looking back on how we all acted. Using 'gay' as an insult was a common term still.Most definitely. The accepted level of casual homophobia, and even racism, was insane El_Marsh posted... People murmured when Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas married because of their 25 year age gap. She was 30ish when they hitched.True, but 25 is certainly more. Hardly anyone would care if the man was 42 and the woman was 27 though. --- Currently playing: Armored Core VI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 3:54:31 PM #32: |
Really? The few rare times I hear that, everyone looks at them with daggers in their eyes.
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DrizztLink 10/05/23 3:54:36 PM #33: |
The_Korey posted...
Give it to me straight... what's wrong with David Spade?I'll just call a spade a spade and let you know that he's David Spade. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revisited 10/05/23 3:57:12 PM #35: |
I'm really loving how completely flipped the situation is from 20 years ago or heck even 10 years ago. Back then Topher grace was seen as the bad guy for never hanging out with the rest of the cast, for leaving the final season, for being in the crappy Spider-man movie that wasn't his fault, stuff like that. But now people see he was the relatively less crappy one and it was everyone else who was bad. Like sure we already knew that Hyde was so clearly a rapist type scumbag it was super obvious, and for God's sake Ashton Kutcher was the dude who literally did the show that originated "its just a prank bro" not to mention just coming off as a general douche, and... Wait how exactly did people not see this before? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 3:58:38 PM #36: |
Revisited posted...
I'm really loving how completely flipped the situation is from 20 years ago or heck even 10 years ago. Back then Topher grace was seen as the bad guy for never hanging out with the rest of the cast, for leaving the final season, for being in the crappy Spider-man movie that wasn't his fault, stuff like that. But now people see he was the relatively less crappy one and it was everyone else who was bad. Like sure we already knew that Hyde was so clearly a rapist type scumbag it was super obvious, and for God's sake Ashton Kutcher was the dude who literally did the show that originated "its just a prank bro" not to mention just coming off as a general douche, and... It was the 00's. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 4:08:18 PM #37: |
I also don't remember David Spade being on that show. He do stupid shit too?
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MICHALECOLE 10/05/23 4:13:29 PM #38: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I always hated that movie because of the puppy dog scene never watched it again ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DaxNovalis 10/05/23 4:21:53 PM #39: |
chaos_knight posted... She was a celebrity since Moonlighting and he played a teenager on a comedy show. Easy to think it was a far larger gap.She wasn't in Moonlighting, that was her husband Bruce Willis. She did have a brief cameo in one episode but wasn't one of the stars. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 10/05/23 4:28:11 PM #41: |
bsp77 posted...
Most definitely. The accepted level of casual homophobia, and even racism, was insaneidk, Leo catches shit for dumping his 26 year old gf's for 23 year olds. --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 4:31:25 PM #42: |
ClayGuida posted...
idk, Leo catches shit for dumping his 26 year old gf's for 23 year olds. It's more he tosses them away instead of doing any serious relationships. When you're an adult, age difference matters little. Had one girl 10 years older who wanted me, and now one who is 12 years younger doing the same. --- Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl XLVIII Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 10/05/23 4:52:45 PM #43: |
Yeah, Kutcher's always been a douche.
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bsp77 10/05/23 4:59:49 PM #44: |
ClayGuida posted...
idk, Leo catches shit for dumping his 26 year old gf's for 23 year olds.But Leo is a lot more than 15 years older.... I am just saying that 42 and 27 is nothing --- Currently playing: Armored Core VI ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Big_Nabendu 10/05/23 5:02:05 PM #45: |
Wat about bob?
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chaos_knight 10/05/23 7:23:04 PM #46: |
Demi Moore was always a catch, regardless of the age difference. Ashton Kutcher was a bad influence on her life and honestly not sure how she is now near the age of 60. He got his originally underage girl though to marry.
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GS4Life 10/05/23 7:32:22 PM #47: |
Yeah I had never heard all this shit about Kutcher's behavior pre-defending Hyde either
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Jiek_Fafn 10/05/23 7:35:23 PM #48: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
dude had a show on mtv or something where they told yo momma jokes lol. seems like a huge doucheI think it was more of his habit of dating freshly 18 year old girls. He also claimed to take Mandy Moore's virginity. She says otherwise. chaos_knight posted... Masterson got her into Scientology but that's about it. She's good otherwise apparently. Also read that the actors playing Kitty and Red also voiced leniency for Masterson, which I hadn't read about.Kurtwood Smiths letter is actually entertaining because instead of pleading for mercy because he's such a great guy it's "He was a kid I worked with. We weren't friends because I was a grown man. The other kid's seemed to like him." Of all the support letters, his is the one where he clearly just went through the motions --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin2Krelian 10/05/23 7:38:21 PM #49: |
chaos_knight posted...
Masterson got her into Scientology but that's about it. She's good otherwise apparently. Also read that the actors playing Kitty and Red also voiced leniency for Masterson, which I hadn't read about. Sucks, Kurtwood Smith has always been one of my favorite character actors --- -J2K Currently Streaming: Homeland, Travelers, Dark, Ahsoka, Jack Ryan, ST: Lower Dekcs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CountDog 10/05/23 7:40:49 PM #50: |
Weezy_Tha_Don posted...
dude had a show on mtv or something where they told yo momma jokes lol. seems like a huge doucheI totally remember that, felt so long ago. --- http://kinomania.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/gran-torino-clint-eastwood.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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