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Intro2Logic
10/04/23 7:44:57 PM
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https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2#lncea776ae6ma3wx39g

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Irony
10/04/23 7:45:48 PM
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Is Mexico paying for it

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Solar_Crimson
10/04/23 7:47:13 PM
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But Fox News and Elon told me that Biden was doing nothing to protect the border.

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Intro2Logic
10/04/23 7:48:23 PM
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Irony posted...
Is Mexico paying for it
No

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Savoots
10/04/23 7:50:23 PM
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I thought border walls were racist and xenophobic though.

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Intro2Logic
10/04/23 7:50:36 PM
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Savoots posted...
I thought border walls were racist and xenophobic though.
They are

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ClayGuida
10/04/23 7:51:26 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
But Fox News and Elon told me that Biden was doing nothing to protect the border.


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invertedlegdrop
10/04/23 7:53:33 PM
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So since Biden is building the wall its good now right...?

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Intro2Logic
10/04/23 7:54:26 PM
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invertedlegdrop posted...
So since Biden is building the wall its good now right...?
It's not

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hockeybub89
10/04/23 7:54:46 PM
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Wall bad

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ClayGuida
10/04/23 7:55:10 PM
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invertedlegdrop posted...
So since Biden is building the wall its good now right...?
It's not. But it should shut up Republicans, right? Right?

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Intro2Logic
10/04/23 7:55:56 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
It's not. But it should shut up Republicans, right? Right?
Given that it won't, why is he doing it?

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Freddie_Mercury
10/04/23 7:59:07 PM
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The Clean Air Act, Safe Drinking Water Act and Endangered Species Act were some of the federal laws waived by DHS to make way for construction that will use funds from a congressional appropriation in 2019 for border wall construction. The waivers avoid time-consuming reviews and lawsuits challenging violation of environmental laws.

seems bad imo

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invertedlegdrop
10/04/23 8:10:17 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
Given that it won't, why is he doing it?

Probably kept getting calls from his party to do something about it...Texas busing them to blue cities/states probably was too much on them...

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emblem-man
10/04/23 8:15:01 PM
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Need them and state govts to do this for building transmission lines and high speed rails

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bigblu89
10/04/23 8:29:57 PM
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So how does this work now?

Does this make Biden a racist xenophobic piece of crap that doesnt care about the environment, or do we only say that when Republicans do things like this?

This the perfect example of same shit both sides.

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runewalshPSiv
10/04/23 8:31:38 PM
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Savoots posted...
I thought border walls were racist and xenophobic though.

Intro2Logic posted...
They are

How so?

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Cemith
10/04/23 8:33:59 PM
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bigblu89 posted...
So how does this work now?

Does this make Biden a racist xenophobic piece of crap that doesnt care about the environment, or do we only say that when Republicans do things like this?

This the perfect example of same shit both sides.

No one in this topic has said this. Looks to me like you're projecting.

Edit: didn't see who I was quoting. Nevermind lmao

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Vyrulisse
10/04/23 8:34:43 PM
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You know it's about election season when everyone starts drifting to the center to prep for their campaigns.

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LeoRavus
10/04/23 8:35:48 PM
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I thought the Biden admin immediately stopped the wall.

What world is this

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MabusIncarnate
10/04/23 8:38:08 PM
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Still pointless, it can be scaled easily, sections fall over in bad weather. Good way to piss money away.

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InfinityMonster
10/04/23 8:48:57 PM
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Wasn't really expecting this, but they have to make attempts or act like they are. Even Hochul in NY is now calling for border patrol to be quadrupled, since the whole thing is completely unsustainable.

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bfslick50
10/04/23 9:19:23 PM
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invertedlegdrop posted...
So since Biden is building the wall its good now right...?

Democrats have no problem saying Biden makes bad steps. Probably related to why so many say they wish it was a different Democrat running. The real question is are you going to say walls are bad now?

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PballDepot
10/04/23 9:23:43 PM
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Dems have always been tough on border control despite chuds crying the opposite.

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Smallville
10/04/23 9:25:28 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
https://apnews.com/article/border-wall-biden-immigration-texas-rio-grande-147d7ab497e6991e9ea929242f21ceb2#lncea776ae6ma3wx39g
Did you guys know this, just read that the majority of illegal immigrants that get into the u.s. are people that overstay their visas, they are not people who cross the border illegally and has been that way for over a decade. But possibly most americans think differently.

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nocturnal_traveler
10/04/23 9:25:30 PM
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But Fox News told me that Democrats are open border policy. Republicans wouldn't actually lie, now would they?

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Intro2Logic
10/04/23 9:28:20 PM
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Smallville posted...
Did you guys know this, just read that the majority of illegal immigrants that get into the u.s. are people that overstay their visas
I knew that, yeah.

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Priere
10/04/23 9:29:06 PM
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Let them in!

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Tyranthraxus
10/04/23 9:30:09 PM
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bfslick50 posted...
Democrats have no problem saying Biden makes bad steps. Probably related to why so many say they wish it was a different Democrat running. The real question is are you going to say walls are bad now?
Walls are bad now and bad when Trump tried to build them.

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InfinityMonster
10/04/23 9:31:38 PM
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Smallville posted...
Did you guys know this, just read that the majority of illegal immigrants that get into the u.s. are people that overstay their visas, they are not people who cross the border illegally and has been that way for over a decade. But possibly most americans think differently.
That's mostly old data. The amount has varied between a yearly 500k to 750k in the past decade.

There's 2-3 million yearly crossings occuring now the past 2-3 years, with only 20% returns. September has broken all the records and are at 10k a day.

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Tenlaar
10/04/23 9:33:46 PM
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Although no maps were provided in the announcement, a previous map shared during the gathering of public comments shows the piecemeal construction will add up to an additional 20 miles to the existing border barrier system in the area.

Blocking off specific high traffic sections of the border is quite different than wanting to wall off the entire border, though it seems like it will just cause the higher traffic areas to shift which can lead to a never ending just one more section situation. Physical walls are still a much worse investment than more technologically advanced methods.
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TerraSeeker
10/04/23 10:31:13 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
I thought the Biden admin immediately stopped the wall.

What world is this
They did. I'm guessing the Democrats in New York complaining about it forced Biden to do something. It really should have been done years ago.

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Unknown5uspect
10/04/23 10:39:31 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
That's mostly old data. The amount has varied between a yearly 500k to 750k in the past decade.

There's 2-3 million yearly crossings occuring now the past 2-3 years, with only 20% returns. September has broken all the records and are at 10k a day.
Yo lemme get the data on that.

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Strider102
10/04/23 10:40:15 PM
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Too dark Dark Brandon, tone it down a notch or two

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willythemailboy
10/05/23 12:57:11 AM
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Smallville posted...
Did you guys know this, just read that the majority of illegal immigrants that get into the u.s. are people that overstay their visas, they are not people who cross the border illegally and has been that way for over a decade. But possibly most americans think differently.
Technically true but presented in a way to be deliberately misleading. Overstay is more common but of lower duration - most overstay violations persist for less than a year, while illegal border crossings more commonly lead to permanent residence. So while a larger number of overstays occur each year compared to illegal border crossings, more illegal immigrants are in the country due to illegal border crossings than overstays at any given moment in time.

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ForsakenHermit
10/05/23 1:00:18 AM
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Hereforemnant likes this news because it reinforces his narrative.

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DerWillZurMacht
10/05/23 1:16:05 AM
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The world was built without borders. There is no natural line dividing the United States from Mexico. Everyone has the right to choose where to live, save for if you have been convicted of a crime. Everyone has the right to flee a dangerous situation. There is no moral right to prevent people from South America from coming into the United States.
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streamofthesky
10/05/23 1:19:14 AM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Wasn't really expecting this, but they have to make attempts or act like they are. Even Hochul in NY is now calling for border patrol to be quadrupled, since the whole thing is completely unsustainable.

It is refreshing seeing the stupidity of "sanctuary cities", "open borders", "immigration is always a good thing" types to eat crow.
I just don't get it, in 2020 Biden was one of the only Democrats to NOT support open borders, but then apparently went left on it once in office?

In any case, trying to "protect" thousands of miles of border is pointless and a waste of money past a basic level of security, and a wall is especially stupid. If people really want to reduce the number of illegal immigrants in this country, go after the employers and throw them in jail. Once the supply dries up from fear of prison and there's no trabajo, the immigrants will want to leave on their own, just like during each economic crisis.
Could even offer free bus trips to the border and no criminal charges if they willingly turn themselves in.

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ForsakenHermit
10/05/23 1:22:17 AM
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What worries me is that someone might use the immigration crisis as an excuse to invade Venezuela. Even though I think there's a case to made for the removal of Maduro as he's a tyrant who rigs elections and is cruel to his own people, US unilateral invasion is not the answer. Same goes for Nicaragua.

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Dark_Arbron
10/05/23 1:50:57 AM
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Read the topic before posting.

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Smallville
10/05/23 7:42:16 AM
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what do you guys think is the actual number of illegal immigrants in the u.s. at this time? iirc it is offically estimated at around 10 million. But many people that that's a conservative number and it could really be twice, that.

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Tenlaar
10/05/23 7:54:01 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
I just don't get it, in 2020 Biden was one of the only Democrats to NOT support open borders, but then apparently went left on it once in office?
This is a complete fabrication. Some Democrat voters want open borders but it is not even remotely a position held by elected Democrats like youre claiming.
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TonyKojima
10/05/23 8:39:22 AM
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Disappointing.

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bigblu89
10/05/23 8:40:16 AM
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Smallville posted...
Did you guys know this, just read that the majority of illegal immigrants that get into the u.s. are people that overstay their visas, they are not people who cross the border illegally and has been that way for over a decade. But possibly most americans think differently.

Thats widely known by anyone who does even the smallest bit of research, but Fox News cant talk about that aspect because theres tens of thousands of white Europeans that are here illegally because of that, and its easier for them to blame brown people.


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Chillscream123
10/05/23 8:48:42 AM
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DerWillZurMacht posted...
The world was built without borders. There is no natural line dividing the United States from Mexico. Everyone has the right to choose where to live, save for if you have been convicted of a crime. Everyone has the right to flee a dangerous situation. There is no moral right to prevent people from South America from coming into the United States.

Actually there is this big river called the Rio Grande.
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bigblu89
10/05/23 9:17:08 AM
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Cemith posted...
No one in this topic has said this. Looks to me like you're projecting.

Edit: didn't see who I was quoting. Nevermind lmao

Excuse me for pointing out that people can be hypocritical at times.

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Gritty
10/05/23 9:18:53 AM
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Hilarious that a democrat president. He is actually more effective at Republican policies than Donald Trump.
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EvilResident
10/05/23 10:26:41 AM
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lol what a joke. Seriously

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Nok_Su_Kow
10/05/23 10:49:18 AM
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So was this in exchange to pass Ukraine funding? Because border walls are a waste of money and ineffectual at actually addressing the core issues of illegal immigration (people gonna build rope ladders over that thing if they have to), but if this gets the goblins to help with Ukraine I'm all for it.
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