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Kinny100 10/03/23 12:14:48 AM #1:	people online seem to really hate it --- http://i.imgur.com/riPcH.jpg <cite>Kinny100 posted [p:976443228] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>people online seem to really hate it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 10/03/23 12:15:25 AM #2:	We do? --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:976443237] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>We do? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinny100 10/03/23 12:16:17 AM #3:	https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/10/01/netflixs-castlevania-nocturne-again-proves-the-uselessness-of-user-reviews/?sh=e100c33733df ya getting review bombed everywhere atm --- http://i.imgur.com/riPcH.jpg <cite>Kinny100 posted [p:976443247] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/10/01/netflixs-castlevania-nocturne-again-proves-the-uselessness-of-user-reviews/?sh=e100c33733dfya getting review bombed everywhere atm </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 10/03/23 12:19:22 AM #4:	Kinny100 posted... https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/10/01/netflixs-castlevania-nocturne-again-proves-the-uselessness-of-user-reviews/?sh=e100c33733df ya getting review bombed everywhere atm Still 100% on RT. For now att least Nvm you meant audience score. Yeah that's always worthless Multiple reviews call the franchise ruined and are upset (freed slave) Annette has the most screen time. My favorite is multiple reviews that call it Wokelevania, the most contorted inclusion of the word woke Ive ever seen. The show constantly beats you over the head with current day talking points another review says. So it's those people again. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:976443283] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Kinny100 posted... </cite><quote>https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/10/01/netflixs-castlevania-nocturne-again-proves-the-uselessness-of-user-reviews/?sh=e100c33733dfya getting review bombed everywhere atm</quote>Still 100% on RT. For now att least Nvm you meant audience score. Yeah that's always worthless <quote>Multiple reviews call the franchise ruined and are upset (freed slave) Annette has the most screen time. My favorite is multiple reviews that call it Wokelevania, the most contorted inclusion of the word woke Ive ever seen. The show constantly beats you over the head with current day talking points another review says. </quote>So it's those people again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinny100 10/03/23 12:36:19 AM #5:	im on ep2 seems good so far --- http://i.imgur.com/riPcH.jpg <cite>Kinny100 posted [p:976443441] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>im on ep2seems good so far </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PerseusRad 10/03/23 12:39:07 AM #7:	While I havent watched it, the main criticisms Im hearing are choppy animation as well as diminishing serious/cool moments by being too self aware. --- http://i.imgur.com/EUkIomS.jpg <cite>PerseusRad posted [p:976443461] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>While I havent watched it, the main criticisms Im hearing are choppy animation as well as diminishing serious/cool moments by being too self aware. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 10/03/23 12:40:25 AM #8:	PerseusRad posted... While I havent watched it, the main criticisms Im hearing are choppy animation as well as diminishing serious/cool moments by being too self aware. Yeah, I'm getting a bit tired of "self-aware" humor. Just sell that the stuff you're showing is cool and viewers will unironically dig it. That's all it takes. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:976443477] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>PerseusRad posted... </cite><quote>While I havent watched it, the main criticisms Im hearing are choppy animation as well as diminishing serious/cool moments by being too self aware.</quote>Yeah, I'm getting a bit tired of "self-aware" humor. Just sell that the stuff you're showing is cool and viewers will unironically dig it. That's all it takes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eab1990 10/03/23 12:41:59 AM #9:	I'm only two episodes in, and there is a noticeable drop in animation. The few clips I've seen do have some legitimate criticism too, like ~~how they ruined a badass line moment by doing the "haha self-aware meta" bullshit that completely undercuts the scene~~. Dunno if it'll turn out better or worse than S3, but my hopes aren't high atm. <cite>Eab1990 posted [p:976443493] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>I'm only two episodes in, and there is a noticeable drop in animation.The few clips I've seen do have some legitimate criticism too, like how they ruined a badass line moment by doing the "haha self-aware meta" bullshit that completely undercuts the scene.Dunno if it'll turn out better or worse than S3, but my hopes aren't high atm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarfireX 10/03/23 12:43:39 AM #10:	People online complain that it doesn't follow the video game closely enough, even though the video game story is disjointed, incomplete, and is largely just about walking from the left side of the stage to the right until you fight Dracula. Also, people complain about how everyone has a potty mouth, which does get kind of old, but whatever. They ignore that the story telling is good, or belittle it, ala Attack on Titan where they will say it's bad but can't really specify what is bad about it or say what they think is good. They also don't like talking about how it has some of the best fight choreography in any anime. Just watch it and enjoy it yourself. I don't take any opinions from people on the internet seriously. --- I've got the Oscar fever! Hope you've got it too! Pour me some bubbly now it's all you gotta do! <cite>WarfireX posted [p:976443511] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>People online complain that it doesn't follow the video game closely enough, even though the video game story is disjointed, incomplete, and is largely just about walking from the left side of the stage to the right until you fight Dracula.Also, people complain about how everyone has a potty mouth, which does get kind of old, but whatever.They ignore that the story telling is good, or belittle it, ala Attack on Titan where they will say it's bad but can't really specify what is bad about it or say what they think is good. They also don't like talking about how it has some of the best fight choreography in any anime. Just watch it and enjoy it yourself. I don't take any opinions from people on the internet seriously. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinny100 10/03/23 12:45:21 AM #11:	the choppy single digit fps fight scenes have been a stable of the series --- http://i.imgur.com/riPcH.jpg <cite>Kinny100 posted [p:976443531] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>the choppy single digit fps fight scenes have been a stable of the series </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 10/03/23 12:49:53 AM #12:	So is Dracula even in this? As much as I enjoyed the first series, it does kinda suck how... handily they resolved his character. And I'm not too keen on continuing a castlevania series without its single most important component; especially given how much S3 suffered for his absence. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:976443597] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>So is Dracula even in this?As much as I enjoyed the first series, it does kinda suck how... handily they resolved his character. And I'm not too keen on continuing a castlevania series without its single most important component; especially given how much S3 suffered for his absence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DuuuDe14 10/03/23 12:52:00 AM #13:	From what I heard it's the weaker animation, quippy dialog and race swaps. A good friend of mine is a super fan of Castlevania and he was talking about it on discord. --- The Official Sons of Sparda of all GameFAQS boards. June 10, 2018. The day Dante returned to us. Do what you want, just don't expect to get paid. <cite>DuuuDe14 posted [p:976443628] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>From what I heard it's the weaker animation, quippy dialog and race swaps.A good friend of mine is a super fan of Castlevania and he was talking about it on discord. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the_crow13 10/03/23 12:52:19 AM #14:	The animation is definitely worse than the previous series. The fights were so fluid before and now its like already said itt choppy looking. some people are upset that having the French and Haitian revolutions occurring during it makes it too much of a departure from the games. and you have people upset about non-white characters, and gay relationships. I imagine thats the cause of the review bombing. I thought it was okay, I thought they really tried to strike an emotional chord with the viewer. Im not as attached to the characters as I was in the other series but its only one season --- You can have results or excuses. Not both. <cite>the_crow13 posted [p:976443636] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>The animation is definitely worse than the previous series. The fights were so fluid before and now its like already said itt choppy looking. some people are upset that having the French and Haitian revolutions occurring during it makes it too much of a departure from the games. and you have people upset about non-white characters, and gay relationships. I imagine thats the cause of the review bombing.I thought it was okay, I thought they really tried to strike an emotional chord with the viewer. Im not as attached to the characters as I was in the other series but its only one season </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarfireX 10/03/23 12:53:47 AM #15:	DarkBuster22904 posted... So is Dracula even in this? As much as I enjoyed the first series, it does kinda suck how... handily they resolved his character. And I'm not too keen on continuing a castlevania series without its single most important component; especially given how much S3 suffered for his absence. Why is it that important though? The Castlevania Universe has other characters it can use. Death was certainly a large enough antagonist to carry the 4th season. Olrox is supposed to be in this one. Personally I think Dracula's arc and the theme that it better to move on with your life than dwell on tragedy are more important than them coming up with a contrived reason to make Dracula evil again. There isn't even necessarily a super personal rivalry between Dracula and the Belmonts. He isn't Dio. --- I've got the Oscar fever! Hope you've got it too! Pour me some bubbly now it's all you gotta do! <cite>WarfireX posted [p:976443652] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>So is Dracula even in this?As much as I enjoyed the first series, it does kinda suck how... handily they resolved his character. And I'm not too keen on continuing a castlevania series without its single most important component; especially given how much S3 suffered for his absence.</quote>Why is it that important though?The Castlevania Universe has other characters it can use. Death was certainly a large enough antagonist to carry the 4th season. Olrox is supposed to be in this one. Personally I think Dracula's arc and the theme that it better to move on with your life than dwell on tragedy are more important than them coming up with a contrived reason to make Dracula evil again. There isn't even necessarily a super personal rivalry between Dracula and the Belmonts. He isn't Dio. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate_reaver 10/03/23 12:54:28 AM #16:	Ive had multiple Christian friends get really mad about the old Trevor one so Ive been kind of ignoring them when they got off on this new one. --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate_reaver posted [p:976443662] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Ive had multiple Christian friends get really mad about the old Trevor one so Ive been kind of ignoring them when they got off on this new one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarfireX 10/03/23 12:55:29 AM #17:	the_crow13 posted... The animation is definitely worse than the previous series. The fights were so fluid before and now its like already said itt choppy looking. some people are upset that having the French and Haitian revolutions occurring during it makes it too much of a departure from the games. and you have people upset about non-white characters, and gay relationships. I imagine thats the cause of the review bombing. I thought it was okay, I thought they really tried to strike an emotional chord with the viewer. Im not as attached to the characters as I was in the other series but its only one season Yeah, it really isn't going to find its true gravitas until the third or 4th season. I jumped the gun on not liking the 3rd season after how the second wrapped up. (Really more like the first full season) Turned out it was just the first half of the second season, really. --- I've got the Oscar fever! Hope you've got it too! Pour me some bubbly now it's all you gotta do! <cite>WarfireX posted [p:976443671] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>the_crow13 posted... </cite><quote>The animation is definitely worse than the previous series. The fights were so fluid before and now its like already said itt choppy looking. some people are upset that having the French and Haitian revolutions occurring during it makes it too much of a departure from the games. and you have people upset about non-white characters, and gay relationships. I imagine thats the cause of the review bombing.I thought it was okay, I thought they really tried to strike an emotional chord with the viewer. Im not as attached to the characters as I was in the other series but its only one season</quote>Yeah, it really isn't going to find its true gravitas until the third or 4th season.I jumped the gun on not liking the 3rd season after how the second wrapped up. (Really more like the first full season) Turned out it was just the first half of the second season, really. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarfireX 10/03/23 12:56:09 AM #18:	ultimate_reaver posted... Ive had multiple Christian friends get really mad about the old Trevor one so Ive been kind of ignoring them when they got off on this new one. If they're that dogmatic about their religion, why would they even watch this show to begin with? --- I've got the Oscar fever! Hope you've got it too! Pour me some bubbly now it's all you gotta do! <cite>WarfireX posted [p:976443678] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>ultimate_reaver posted... </cite><quote>Ive had multiple Christian friends get really mad about the old Trevor one so Ive been kind of ignoring them when they got off on this new one.</quote>If they're that dogmatic about their religion, why would they even watch this show to begin with? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C-zom 10/03/23 12:57:17 AM #19:	The reveal trailer is 100x more emotional and dark than the actual show. It's very snarky, light hearted and "subverts expectations" quite a lot. It's not terrible, but the overall storytelling and direction is miles different than the first series. Combat is way choppier and lower quality, but it makes sense since they released rather quickly after the original ended. I don't know enough about the video game characters to notice or care about race swaps, so idk, but the characters themselves are a lot more self-sure and quip all the fucking time. I'm four episodes in and there hasn't been a single emotional conversation or introspective scene that the original was filled with. --- Since only from below can one better see the heights. http://i.imgur.com/OhZgm.jpg <cite>C-zom posted [p:976443688] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>The reveal trailer is 100x more emotional and dark than the actual show. It's very snarky, light hearted and "subverts expectations" quite a lot. It's not terrible, but the overall storytelling and direction is miles different than the first series.Combat is way choppier and lower quality, but it makes sense since they released rather quickly after the original ended. I don't know enough about the video game characters to notice or care about race swaps, so idk, but the characters themselves are a lot more self-sure and quip all the fucking time. I'm four episodes in and there hasn't been a single emotional conversation or introspective scene that the original was filled with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 10/03/23 12:59:38 AM #20:	My only complaint right now is what was wrong with Richter having a girlfriend and Maria being her sister? At least a character with the same name is in, they didn't do her as dirty as my boy Grant in the previous series. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:976443704] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>My only complaint right now is what was wrong with Richter having a girlfriend and Maria being her sister?At least a character with the same name is in, they didn't do her as dirty as my boy Grant in the previous series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 10/03/23 1:03:25 AM #21:	WarfireX posted... Why is it that important though? The Castlevania Universe has other characters it can use. Death was certainly a large enough antagonist to carry the 4th season. Olrox is supposed to be in this one. Personally I think Dracula's arc and the theme that it better to move on with your life than dwell on tragedy are more important than them coming up with a contrived reason to make Dracula evil again. There isn't even necessarily a super personal rivalry between Dracula and the Belmonts. He isn't Dio. I heartedly disagree with ~~Death~~ being strong enough to carry his season; he was a total non presence, had none of the charisma or intrigue of hos predecessor, and the whole season felt like aimless wandering before rushing off to a spectacle of a confrontation that felt like a fireworks show: flashy, spectacular, substanceless, and over almost immediately. I get that they resolved Dracula's arc already, and I agree that needlessly making him evil again would be hackneyed. I said as much. My problem is I feel like they played their ace too early. Death, Carmella, Olrox (from what I've seen by episode 4, where I'm currently at), none of these people have been even fractionally as interesting as Dracula; and having him taken off the board, in a story that hinges on him, before exploring even a fraction of his material (his storied rivalry with the Belmont being just one example) just feels like a real shame. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:976443751] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>WarfireX posted... </cite><quote>Why is it that important though?The Castlevania Universe has other characters it can use. Death was certainly a large enough antagonist to carry the 4th season. Olrox is supposed to be in this one. Personally I think Dracula's arc and the theme that it better to move on with your life than dwell on tragedy are more important than them coming up with a contrived reason to make Dracula evil again. There isn't even necessarily a super personal rivalry between Dracula and the Belmonts. He isn't Dio.</quote>I heartedly disagree with Death being strong enough to carry his season; he was a total non presence, had none of the charisma or intrigue of hos predecessor, and the whole season felt like aimless wandering before rushing off to a spectacle of a confrontation that felt like a fireworks show: flashy, spectacular, substanceless, and over almost immediately.I get that they resolved Dracula's arc already, and I agree that needlessly making him evil again would be hackneyed. I said as much. My problem is I feel like they played their ace too early. Death, Carmella, Olrox (from what I've seen by episode 4, where I'm currently at), none of these people have been even fractionally as interesting as Dracula; and having him taken off the board, in a story that hinges on him, before exploring even a fraction of his material (his storied rivalry with the Belmont being just one example) just feels like a real shame. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BearlyWilling 10/03/23 1:03:57 AM #22:	Its just butthurt republicans whining about there being more than just white males in something. Whats new, OP --- Hmm... <cite>BearlyWilling posted [p:976443757] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Its just butthurt republicans whining about there being more than just white males in something. Whats new, OP </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eab1990 10/03/23 1:05:51 AM #23:	~~Death~~ wasn't the primary antagonist of S4 anyway. It was ~~St. Germain~~, who was one of the few interesting parts of S3. <cite>Eab1990 posted [p:976443776] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Death wasn't the primary antagonist of S4 anyway. It was St. Germain, who was one of the few interesting parts of S3.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sabin017 10/03/23 1:06:21 AM #24:	The highlight of the previous show was the banter between those two guys. Otherwise you could tell it didn't have much of a budget and the VAs were falling asleep delivering their lines. --- https://i.imgur.com/TWsfIIj.gif <cite>sabin017 posted [p:976443782] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>The highlight of the previous show was the banter between those two guys. Otherwise you could tell it didn't have much of a budget and the VAs were falling asleep delivering their lines. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarfireX 10/03/23 1:10:40 AM #25:	I guess we'll chalk that up to a disagreement because I personally liked the subtle hints at Death's involvement, with the Necromancer's at the beginning, his statue being present with Trevor explaining what he is to Sypha, and Varney vaguely hinting who he really was while he was egging everyone else on. I also liked his manipulations of St Germain. But if you didn't like that stuff, I'm not sure what to say. I didn't feel it was required that Death announce is presence and operate with transparency like he's Skeleton. I also thought Isaac's transformation from a villain to hero was one of the best parts of the series and that Carmella was a good antagonist for his own story. So, I completely disagree that Dracula is a required presence. He was the best villain they've had so far, but repeated appearances given the way his arc was handled would just diminish his presence IMO. I do agree it might be interesting to imagine how this arc could have gone if it was sustained longer, and he was a repeated villain. But we already got an amazing fight scene with him, and his motives have all been addressed. ~~I admit I haven't seen any of Nocturne yet, but I'm excited to see what they can do with more of the characters in the mythos.~~ --- I've got the Oscar fever! Hope you've got it too! Pour me some bubbly now it's all you gotta do! <cite>WarfireX posted [p:976443804] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>I guess we'll chalk that up to a disagreement because I personally liked the subtle hints at Death's involvement, with the Necromancer's at the beginning, his statue being present with Trevor explaining what he is to Sypha, and Varney vaguely hinting who he really was while he was egging everyone else on. I also liked his manipulations of St Germain. But if you didn't like that stuff, I'm not sure what to say. I didn't feel it was required that Death announce is presence and operate with transparency like he's Skeleton.I also thought Isaac's transformation from a villain to hero was one of the best parts of the series and that Carmella was a good antagonist for his own story. So, I completely disagree that Dracula is a required presence. He was the best villain they've had so far, but repeated appearances given the way his arc was handled would just diminish his presence IMO. I do agree it might be interesting to imagine how this arc could have gone if it was sustained longer, and he was a repeated villain. But we already got an amazing fight scene with him, and his motives have all been addressed.I admit I haven't seen any of Nocturne yet, but I'm excited to see what they can do with more of the characters in the mythos. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WarfireX 10/03/23 1:12:59 AM #26:	Eab1990 posted... ~~Death~~ wasn't the primary antagonist of S4 anyway. It was ~~St. Germain~~, who was one of the few interesting parts of S3. I mean, I wouldn't really say that either. St Germain's malevolent actions were all Death's handiwork because he was being manipulated by a power far greater than he could handle. He lost himself because he didn't move on from the past, which was an underlying theme of the whole 4th season. He did realize this at the end which was why his dying action was to open the door for Trevor to return. He wasn't supposed to be a totally insidious character to the plot, just someone in over his head. --- I've got the Oscar fever! Hope you've got it too! Pour me some bubbly now it's all you gotta do! <cite>WarfireX posted [p:976443833] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Eab1990 posted... </cite><quote>Death wasn't the primary antagonist of S4 anyway. It was St. Germain, who was one of the few interesting parts of S3.</quote>I mean, I wouldn't really say that either. St Germain's malevolent actions were all Death's handiwork because he was being manipulated by a power far greater than he could handle. He lost himself because he didn't move on from the past, which was an underlying theme of the whole 4th season. He did realize this at the end which was why his dying action was to open the door for Trevor to return. He wasn't supposed to be a totally insidious character to the plot, just someone in over his head. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eab1990 10/03/23 1:24:26 AM #27:	St. Germain's secret alliance with the vampires was the primary focus of the villainous actions, specifically him bossing Dragan around and being behind the funneling and subsequent siege/sacrifice of Castlevania's refugees. There IS a story to be told about how the hell ~~Hector was somehow able to connect with Varney and St. Germain, while also somehow knowing that Varney was not to be trusted~~, but that never got elaborated on. Though it did make for a laugh when Varney tried to recruit Isaac and ended up getting caller-blocked instead. <cite>Eab1990 posted [p:976443959] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>St. Germain's secret alliance with the vampires was the primary focus of the villainous actions, specifically him bossing Dragan around and being behind the funneling and subsequent siege/sacrifice of Castlevania's refugees.There IS a story to be told about how the hell Hector was somehow able to connect with Varney and St. Germain, while also somehow knowing that Varney was not to be trusted, but that never got elaborated on. Though it did make for a laugh when Varney tried to recruit Isaac and ended up getting caller-blocked instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate_reaver 10/04/23 1:52:38 AM #28:	WarfireX posted... If they're that dogmatic about their religion, why would they even watch this show to begin with? the reason I usually get from them is that its because the church is the good guy in what little story there is in old castlevania games so they got upset about their portrayal in the Trevor one as to why they keep watching them your guess is as good as mine --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate_reaver posted [p:976465264] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>WarfireX posted... </cite><quote>If they're that dogmatic about their religion, why would they even watch this show to begin with?</quote>the reason I usually get from them is that its because the church is the good guy in what little story there is in old castlevania games so they got upset about their portrayal in the Trevor one as to why they keep watching them your guess is as good as mine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Amakusa 10/04/23 2:18:44 AM #29:	ultimate_reaver posted... the reason I usually get from them is that its because the church is the good guy in what little story there is in old castlevania games so they got upset about their portrayal in the Trevor one Well, it's actually true. The Church in Castlevania is a generally good faction. The Church in the Netflix series is portrayed in a rather unflattering manner. Although there was a token good priest in there he is vastly overshadowed by the villainous ones. The thing is, though, the Church's involvement in Castlevania is really boiling down to a RL reason to have magicians running around. Notably, Sypha was sent by the Church to fight Dracula (the whole Speaker thing was Netflix original) and while their knowledge of her being a woman is largely absent the thing here is the Church is basically employing a witch (which incidentally was a huge reason why Sypha was disguising herself as a man). --- I will rule the world, and find that truly good cup of coffee. <cite>Amakusa posted [p:976465489] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>ultimate_reaver posted... </cite><quote>the reason I usually get from them is that its because the church is the good guy in what little story there is in old castlevania games so they got upset about their portrayal in the Trevor one</quote>Well, it's actually true. The Church in Castlevania is a generally good faction. The Church in the Netflix series is portrayed in a rather unflattering manner. Although there was a token good priest in there he is vastly overshadowed by the villainous ones.The thing is, though, the Church's involvement in Castlevania is really boiling down to a RL reason to have magicians running around. Notably, Sypha was sent by the Church to fight Dracula (the whole Speaker thing was Netflix original) and while their knowledge of her being a woman is largely absent the thing here is the Church is basically employing a witch (which incidentally was a huge reason why Sypha was disguising herself as a man). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RCP3_04 10/04/23 2:11:14 PM #30:	Because theyre incel neckbeards that cry about seeing one or two people, mainly Black, that dont look like them in the media they watch. Thankfully theyre just the minority. Castlevania Nocture continues the quality that the first series of Castlevania brought. Fans love Annette and are hyped up about SPOILERS ~~Alucards return~~ <cite>RCP3_04 posted [p:976473603] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Because theyre incel neckbeards that cry about seeing one or two people, mainly Black, that dont look like them in the media they watch. Thankfully theyre just the minority. Castlevania Nocture continues the quality that the first series of Castlevania brought. Fans love Annette and are hyped up about SPOILERSAlucards return</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinny100 10/05/23 1:50:02 AM #31:	ok im on ep6 so far it's been kinda boring. --- http://i.imgur.com/riPcH.jpg <cite>Kinny100 posted [p:976485352] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>ok im on ep6so far it's been kinda boring. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinny100 10/05/23 2:56:57 AM #32:	the french revolution backdrop is interesting though --- http://i.imgur.com/riPcH.jpg <cite>Kinny100 posted [p:976485890] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>the french revolution backdrop is interesting though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorganTJ 10/05/23 3:03:17 AM #33:	Just finished it, looking forward to more, but the series does still have most of the same issues from the first series. Besides some of the dialogue feeling insincere at times (~~like with Richter's moment in episode 6~~), some of the animation could've used more in-betweens and it sounds like they still haven't solved the issue with some voice actors having varying sound quality. But no, those issues are gonna be overshadowed because of racists again. <cite>MorganTJ posted [p:976485952] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Just finished it, looking forward to more, but the series does still have most of the same issues from the first series. Besides some of the dialogue feeling insincere at times (like with Richter's moment in episode 6), some of the animation could've used more in-betweens and it sounds like they still haven't solved the issue with some voice actors having varying sound quality. But no, those issues are gonna be overshadowed because of racists again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Enclave 10/05/23 3:06:21 AM #34:	Ricemills posted... Multiple reviews call the franchise ruined and are upset (freed slave) Annette has the most screen time. My favorite is multiple reviews that call it Wokelevania, the most contorted inclusion of the word woke Ive ever seen. The show constantly beats you over the head with current day talking points another review says. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/2/AAS_qZAAEniu.jpg --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. <cite>Enclave posted [p:976485977] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>Multiple reviews call the franchise ruined and are upset (freed slave) Annette has the most screen time. My favorite is multiple reviews that call it Wokelevania, the most contorted inclusion of the word woke Ive ever seen. The show constantly beats you over the head with current day talking points another review says.</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/2/AAS_qZAAEniu.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 10/05/23 3:07:38 AM #35:	i love the show personally --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:976485986] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>i love the show personally </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 10/07/23 2:08:35 PM #36:	I just finished it, and I stand by what I said before. They wasted their best villain by wrapping up his story entirely too early, and have yet to find a replacement. Erzabet and her lackey were so, so, SO goddamn boring as villains, which makes the hook into season 2 feel very weak. Like, they spend the entire season hyping up this Vampire Messiah, and when she arrives, shes just generic evil aristocrat whos strong because of offscreen reasons. Olrox was at least reasonably interesting, but feels kinda all-over-the-place. Plus Im about 90% sure theyre gonna go the Isaac route and NOT make him a villain long term, so Im not sure whether to count him or not. Edouards story felt extremely rushed; remarkable for a character that functionally does so little. ~~Justes~~ cameo was neat, and I like that they seem to have taken the bad ending from his game as the launching point for his character. I dunno, I liked it fine, but it definitely continued the trend of every season after S2 of the first series feeling weaker than the last. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:976528806] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>I just finished it, and I stand by what I said before. They wasted their best villain by wrapping up his story entirely too early, and have yet to find a replacement. Erzabet and her lackey were so, so, SO goddamn boring as villains, which makes the hook into season 2 feel very weak. Like, they spend the entire season hyping up this Vampire Messiah, and when she arrives, shes just generic evil aristocrat whos strong because of offscreen reasons. Olrox was at least reasonably interesting, but feels kinda all-over-the-place. Plus Im about 90% sure theyre gonna go the Isaac route and NOT make him a villain long term, so Im not sure whether to count him or not.Edouards story felt extremely rushed; remarkable for a character that functionally does so little.Justes cameo was neat, and I like that they seem to have taken the bad ending from his game as the launching point for his character.I dunno, I liked it fine, but it definitely continued the trend of every season after S2 of the first series feeling weaker than the last. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinny100 10/08/23 12:18:11 AM #37:	just finished it. nowhere near as good as the original series. annette was just boring. --- http://i.imgur.com/riPcH.jpg <cite>Kinny100 posted [p:976538409] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>just finished it. nowhere near as good as the original series.annette was just boring. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kinny100 10/08/23 12:18:42 AM #38:	Kinny100 posted... the french revolution backdrop is interesting though and they fucking wasted the setting. fuck im disappointed. --- http://i.imgur.com/riPcH.jpg <cite>Kinny100 posted [p:976538416] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Kinny100 posted... </cite><quote>the french revolution backdrop is interesting though</quote>and they fucking wasted the setting. fuck im disappointed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VRX3000 10/08/23 4:34:42 AM #39:	Just finished watching this season. The first 3 episodes are a chore. But after that its probably the best the series ever was. The characters are actually proactive for more than 1 episode. The animation quality picks back up. Theres a lot of complexity in the alliances being made. And the self pity train doesnt go on endlessly like everything seasons 3/4 that wasnt Isaac. then it ends on a cliffhanger because this series cant do self contained arcs. They always need to be 2-seasons long so we made it to the half-way point and then stopped. But overall good stuff. Definitely redeemed itself after the poor first impressions. --- ~ my improv troupe ~ www.forgetfulsquirrels.com <cite>VRX3000 posted [p:976540454] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Just finished watching this season. The first 3 episodes are a chore. But after that its probably the best the series ever was. The characters are actually proactive for more than 1 episode. The animation quality picks back up. Theres a lot of complexity in the alliances being made. And the self pity train doesnt go on endlessly like everything seasons 3/4 that wasnt Isaac. then it ends on a cliffhanger because this series cant do self contained arcs. They always need to be 2-seasons long so we made it to the half-way point and then stopped. But overall good stuff. Definitely redeemed itself after the poor first impressions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 10/08/23 4:37:26 AM #40:	Ricemills posted... My favorite is multiple reviews that call it Wokelevania, Thats great. its like an ironic shitpost come true --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:976540468] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>My favorite is multiple reviews that call it Wokelevania,</quote>Thats great. its like an ironic shitpost come true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El_Marsh 10/08/23 5:06:00 AM #41:	I've watched 6 episodes and agree that it does improve somewhat after a very rough start. The one thing that it never quite overcomes is that its use of profanity is pretty gratuitous and doesn't flow naturally with the rest of the dialogue, which results in a break from the immersion of the conversation; it was clearly tacked-on and not part of the original writing. That's really the only thing that's grated on me throughout. --- http://i.imgur.com/0APl48O.gifv <cite>El_Marsh posted [p:976540604] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>I've watched 6 episodes and agree that it does improve somewhat after a very rough start. The one thing that it never quite overcomes is that its use of profanity is pretty gratuitous and doesn't flow naturally with the rest of the dialogue, which results in a break from the immersion of the conversation; it was clearly tacked-on and not part of the original writing. That's really the only thing that's grated on me throughout. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ROBANN_88 10/08/23 5:25:40 AM #42:	without reading any of the reviews or discourse, i'm assuming people hate that there's a powerful black woman in it the internet always has a hate-boner for that --- Kremlin delenda est <cite>ROBANN_88 posted [p:976540691] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>without reading any of the reviews or discourse, i'm assuming people hate that there's a powerful black woman in itthe internet always has a hate-boner for that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 10/08/23 5:31:41 AM #43:	DarkBuster22904 posted... generic evil aristocrat whos strong because of offscreen reasons. as apposed to dracula who is strong because reasons --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:976540716] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>DarkBuster22904 posted... </cite><quote>generic evil aristocrat whos strong because of offscreen reasons.</quote>as apposed to dracula who is strong because reasons </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaihedgie 10/08/23 5:43:41 AM #44:	ROBANN_88 posted... without reading any of the reviews or discourse, i'm assuming people hate that there's a powerful black woman in it the internet always has a hate-boner for that That was the usual Twitter discourse yes as well as a few grifters trying to get attention off of it. That and the French Revolution thing. Funny enough, Rondo of Blood did actually take place during this time period. The only reason it wasn't part of the main plot was because Dracula was the villain as per usual, doing generic villain things. Since Dracula obviously isn't a threat anymore, Nocturne can now make that event part of its story People try to claim the series has never been political but try to ignore or handwave away Bloodlines, despite that its villain plot is centered around World War 1 and like Nocturne, features a real life person as its antagonist, them being one in the same here It's rather silly that people are still expecting "faithful" adaptations when the original series veered off from Dracula's Curse after Season 2 and to be frank, Rondo of Blood was not a terribly interesting game, story-wise. Like, at all. It was a very generic story that very well could have just been a throwaway OVA, especially given the aesthetic of the game being so wildly different from every other game before it Another dumb complaint I saw people throwing around was trying to compare Nocturne's style to Ayami Kojima. Of course they fail two realize two things: 1: Kojima is an illustrator, not an animator 2: Kojima didn't even illustrate for the series until Symphony of the Night and her design of Richter is so far removed from the original to the point where he only resembles the character in that they have the same color palette. It's even more jarring considering Symphony of the Night's introductory scene is the final boss battle of Rondo of Blood...and Richter is still using his RoB sprites, looking nothing like his portrait. --- "Oh hey look, it's Vegeta, the son of Trunks." PSN and Nintendo Network: Kaihedgie <cite>Kaihedgie posted [p:976540760] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>ROBANN_88 posted... </cite><quote>without reading any of the reviews or discourse, i'm assuming people hate that there's a powerful black woman in itthe internet always has a hate-boner for that</quote>That was the usual Twitter discourse yes as well as a few grifters trying to get attention off of it. That and the French Revolution thing. Funny enough, Rondo of Blood did actually take place during this time period. The only reason it wasn't part of the main plot was because Dracula was the villain as per usual, doing generic villain things. Since Dracula obviously isn't a threat anymore, Nocturne can now make that event part of its storyPeople try to claim the series has never been political but try to ignore or handwave away Bloodlines, despite that its villain plot is centered around World War 1 and like Nocturne, features a real life person as its antagonist, them being one in the same hereIt's rather silly that people are still expecting "faithful" adaptations when the original series veered off from Dracula's Curse after Season 2 and to be frank, Rondo of Blood was not a terribly interesting game, story-wise. Like, at all. It was a very generic story that very well could have just been a throwaway OVA, especially given the aesthetic of the game being so wildly different from every other game before itAnother dumb complaint I saw people throwing around was trying to compare Nocturne's style to Ayami Kojima. Of course they fail two realize two things:1: Kojima is an illustrator, not an animator2: Kojima didn't even illustrate for the series until Symphony of the Night and her design of Richter is so far removed from the original to the point where he only resembles the character in that they have the same color palette. It's even more jarring considering Symphony of the Night's introductory scene is the final boss battle of Rondo of Blood...and Richter is still using his RoB sprites, looking nothing like his portrait. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 10/08/23 5:49:56 AM #45:	Ricemills posted... So it's those people again. They are the reason we can't have anything nice. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:976540793] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>So it's those people again.</quote>They are the reason we can't have anything nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/08/23 6:08:17 AM #46:	WarfireX posted... If they're that dogmatic about their religion, why would they even watch this show to begin with? ultimate_reaver posted... the reason I usually get from them is that its because the church is the good guy in what little story there is in old castlevania games so they got upset about their portrayal in the Trevor one as to why they keep watching them your guess is as good as mine watch something hate it proceed to watch every bit of it there is bitch like anyone cares what you think Its an old pattern. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976540877] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>WarfireX posted... </cite><quote>If they're that dogmatic about their religion, why would they even watch this show to begin with?</quote>ultimate_reaver posted... </cite><quote>the reason I usually get from them is that its because the church is the good guy in what little story there is in old castlevania games so they got upset about their portrayal in the Trevor one as to why they keep watching them your guess is as good as mine</quote> watch somethinghate it proceed to watch every bit of it there isbitch like anyone cares what you thinkIts an old pattern. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Eab1990 10/08/23 9:35:14 AM #47:	So I got to the Divine Bloodlines part in the actual show, and yeah, it deserves all the hate it gets. How do you fuck up your trailer moment with a shitty line like that? Even my mom was asking "what was it that you forgot about Belmonts?" <cite>Eab1990 posted [p:976542213] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>So I got to the Divine Bloodlines part in the actual show, and yeah, it deserves all the hate it gets.How do you fuck up your trailer moment with a shitty line like that? Even my mom was asking "what was it that you forgot about Belmonts?"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balnazarr 10/08/23 9:48:10 AM #48:	I saw people mad that Anette and Trevor would have mixed race kids. That's the sort of people we're dealing with. <cite>Balnazarr posted [p:976542320] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>I saw people mad that Anette and Trevor would have mixed race kids. That's the sort of people we're dealing with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 10/08/23 12:28:15 PM #50:	Ricemills posted... it's those people again. --- Eat the rich Destroy the GOP <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:976544150] in So someone... [t:80583752]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>it's those people again.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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