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ryudo500 10/01/23 2:53:51 AM #1:	is it a problem or no? if you think so why? if not why? --- squaresoft NEVER FORGET NBA <cite>ryudo500 posted [p:976406284] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>is it a problem or no? if you think so why? if not why? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Priere 10/01/23 2:54:36 AM #2:	Let. Them. IN! --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif <cite>Priere posted [p:976406290] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Let. Them. IN! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HOON 10/01/23 3:01:13 AM #3:	It needs to be easier to get a green card at least. The courts are backlogged for years. The current system is untenable --- R.I.P. #43 "Kill all tires" <cite>HOON posted [p:976406333] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>It needs to be easier to get a green card at least. The courts are backlogged for years. The current system is untenable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Torgo 10/01/23 3:05:28 AM #4:	First and foremost, we need to change our methods of international intervention and be a better neighbor to Latin America. Secondly, we need to treat employers that hire undocumented immigrants with the same fervor we go after the immigrants... after all, this is wage theft from American workers. --- Be careful: I was moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder. It's not worth trying to be the voice of reason sometimes. <cite>Torgo posted [p:976406366] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>First and foremost, we need to change our methods of international intervention and be a better neighbor to Latin America.Secondly, we need to treat employers that hire undocumented immigrants with the same fervor we go after the immigrants... after all, this is wage theft from American workers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ForsakenHermit 10/01/23 3:07:18 AM #5:	Marshall Plan for Central America would be a good start. --- Beware the fanatic! Too often his cure is deadlier by far than the evil he denounces!-Stan Lee RIP Make Arcades Great Again! <cite>ForsakenHermit posted [p:976406376] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Marshall Plan for Central America would be a good start. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 10/01/23 3:25:09 AM #6:	Ban everyone from America, immigrant or not. Let the parrots take over. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:976406467] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Ban everyone from America, immigrant or not. Let the parrots take over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MistyKnight 10/01/23 3:29:26 AM #7:	ForsakenHermit posted... Marshall Plan for Central America would be a good start. Yes and amnesty --- friend find, look behind <cite>MistyKnight posted [p:976406497] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>ForsakenHermit posted... </cite><quote>Marshall Plan for Central America would be a good start.</quote>Yes and amnesty </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 10/03/23 8:19:16 PM #8:	Priere posted... Let. Them. IN! Your boy Trump agrees, given how many he employs. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:976460474] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Priere posted... </cite><quote>Let. Them. IN!</quote>Your boy Trump agrees, given how many he employs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 10/04/23 11:57:05 AM #9:	Calculate how much tax money will be needed to fully fund Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. Calculate the total population needed to provide that tax income. Subtract the workforce as it will exist from that number. That is the number of immigrants needed in the US. (Or higher taxes are needed.) Increase the number of legal immigration to match. Streamline the immigration process so it can be completed mostly online. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:976471131] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Calculate how much tax money will be needed to fully fund Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.Calculate the total population needed to provide that tax income.Subtract the workforce as it will exist from that number.That is the number of immigrants needed in the US. (Or higher taxes are needed.)Increase the number of legal immigration to match.Streamline the immigration process so it can be completed mostly online. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SayHeyyShohei 10/04/23 12:00:05 PM #10:	Your question is way too vague. --- Welcome to the Twilight Zone <cite>SayHeyyShohei posted [p:976471190] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Your question is way too vague. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Voidgolem 10/04/23 12:03:01 PM #12:	Simplify overhead and make sure whatever paperwork needs to be done is done by employers and whatnot. Don't care where your workers are from or where they live, as long as they pay their dues and whatnot properly and there's no abuses of the workplace. Visibility and exposure curbs problems. But that's the sort of thing that gets people screaming about small businesses (e.g. the sort to let this slide) and government overreach (e.g. we don't want to tell people we're shortchanging our workers with threat of deportation) --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:976471240] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Simplify overhead and make sure whatever paperwork needs to be done is done by employers and whatnot.Don't care where your workers are from or where they live, as long as they pay their dues and whatnot properly and there's no abuses of the workplace.Visibility and exposure curbs problems. But that's the sort of thing that gets people screaming about small businesses (e.g. the sort to let this slide) and government overreach (e.g. we don't want to tell people we're shortchanging our workers with threat of deportation) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mystic_belmont 10/04/23 12:04:17 PM #13:	It's not really a problem. Making immigration easier would be a start. If Republicans really wanted to end undocumented immigrants from being employed, in-prison a few executives/managers that employ them. --- "Freedom was meaningless without ownership and control over one's own body" -Tera Hunter 'Joy My Freedom' [Evil Republican] 3DS FC: 5429-7297-4842 <cite>mystic_belmont posted [p:976471272] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>It's not really a problem.Making immigration easier would be a start.If Republicans really wanted to end undocumented immigrants from being employed, in-prison a few executives/managers that employ them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The23rdMagus 10/04/23 12:05:31 PM #14:	Make it so that the process doesn't take years. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. <cite>The23rdMagus posted [p:976471294] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Make it so that the process doesn't take years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 10/04/23 12:10:43 PM #15:	Not a liberal, but: 1) close the border. Below Mexico. the us Mexico border is HUGE. The border between Mexico and Guatemala/Belice is tiny. If you want to stop immigration, do it there. 2) find out who is convincing Central Americans to come to the US. its odd how they come by the million when there is a Democrat in power or there are gonna be elections. When a Republican wins, they suddenly stop. Weird, huh? my bet is that some GOP operative makes it happen. 3) take the racism out of the immigration debate lets just face it, the GOP made it about race 4) make it easier to come here legally --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:976471394] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Not a liberal, but:1) close the border. Below Mexico.the us Mexico border is HUGE. The border between Mexico and Guatemala/Belice is tiny. If you want to stop immigration, do it there.2) find out who is convincing Central Americans to come to the US.its odd how they come by the million when there is a Democrat in power or there are gonna be elections. When a Republican wins, they suddenly stop. Weird, huh?my bet is that some GOP operative makes it happen. 3) take the racism out of the immigration debate lets just face it, the GOP made it about race 4) make it easier to come here legally </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 10/04/23 12:12:31 PM #16:	The_shibe posted... 2) find out who is convincing Central Americans to come to the US. Might have something to do with fox news blaring that we are an open border country anytime a Democrat is in office --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:976471418] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>2) find out who is convincing Central Americans to come to the US.</quote>Might have something to do with fox news blaring that we are an open border country anytime a Democrat is in office </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 10/04/23 12:12:41 PM #17:	If the oversaturation is the problem, the immigrants need to face less punishment than the companies that hire them. IE, if companies keep paying people under the table, then they should have to give them VISAs etc. --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:976471420] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>If the oversaturation is the problem, the immigrants need to face less punishment than the companies that hire them. IE, if companies keep paying people under the table, then they should have to give them VISAs etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
luigi33 10/04/23 12:15:42 PM #18:	The_shibe posted... 2) find out who is convincing Central Americans to come to the US. Probably the Cartels and Gangs are convincing them through violence. --- RTX 3070, Ryzen 7 5700x,16GB DDR4, 700WGold PSU Switch FC: SW-3966-2111-8902, Proud Steam Deck Owner <cite>luigi33 posted [p:976471496] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>2) find out who is convincing Central Americans to come to the US.</quote>Probably the Cartels and Gangs are convincing them through violence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 10/04/23 12:53:38 PM #19:	The_shibe posted... Not a liberal, but: 1) close the border. Below Mexico. the us Mexico border is HUGE. The border between Mexico and Guatemala/Belice is tiny. If you want to stop immigration, do it there. How are you going to patrol the border of another country? 2) find out who is convincing Central Americans to come to the US. its odd how they come by the million when there is a Democrat in power or there are gonna be elections. When a Republican wins, they suddenly stop. Weird, huh? my bet is that some GOP operative makes it happen. Correct, but mostly because Shadow_Don posted... Might have something to do with fox news blaring that we are an open border country anytime a Democrat is in office However, the "problem" is vastly blown out of proportion for political gain. The reason they always seem to pop up around election time is because it's a convenience boogyman to scare voters into voting red. There's no horde of dirty migrants, they only exist in the headlines of right wing media. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:976472153] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>Not a liberal, but:1) close the border. Below Mexico.the us Mexico border is HUGE. The border between Mexico and Guatemala/Belice is tiny. If you want to stop immigration, do it there.</quote>How are you going to patrol the border of another country?<quote>2) find out who is convincing Central Americans to come to the US.its odd how they come by the million when there is a Democrat in power or there are gonna be elections. When a Republican wins, they suddenly stop. Weird, huh?my bet is that some GOP operative makes it happen.</quote>Correct, but mostly becauseShadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>Might have something to do with fox news blaring that we are an open border country anytime a Democrat is in office</quote>However, the "problem" is vastly blown out of proportion for political gain. The reason they always seem to pop up around election time is because it's a convenience boogyman to scare voters into voting red. There's no horde of dirty migrants, they only exist in the headlines of right wing media. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
name_unknown 10/04/23 12:55:43 PM #20:	What should be done about the labor shortage? Sounds like a problem that should be able to take care of itself. <cite>name_unknown posted [p:976472194] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>What should be done about the labor shortage?Sounds like a problem that should be able to take care of itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KiwiTerraRizing 10/04/23 12:56:45 PM #22:	People come here for jobs. If rich assholes who depend on slave labor wouldnt hire them, far fewer would come up. I live in the Midwest and all the meat packing plants are owned by republican donors who send recruiters to Mexico to get illegal workers. They dont actually want to solve the problem, this country relies on slave labor. --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! <cite>KiwiTerraRizing posted [p:976472205] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>People come here for jobs. If rich assholes who depend on slave labor wouldnt hire them, far fewer would come up. I live in the Midwest and all the meat packing plants are owned by republican donors who send recruiters to Mexico to get illegal workers. They dont actually want to solve the problem, this country relies on slave labor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VeesMcGees 10/04/23 12:59:06 PM #23:	Most immigrants are just looking for work. If that ever becomes an issue for citizens, then hit the employers hiring the immigrants. <cite>VeesMcGees posted [p:976472249] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Most immigrants are just looking for work. If that ever becomes an issue for citizens, then hit the employers hiring the immigrants. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 10/04/23 1:02:40 PM #24:	KiwiTerraRizing posted... They dont actually want to solve the problem, this country relies on slave labor. Always has, always will --- How can the moon landing be real if the moon isn't real? <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:976472316] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>KiwiTerraRizing posted... </cite><quote>They dont actually want to solve the problem, this country relies on slave labor.</quote>Always has, always will </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tanthalas 10/04/23 1:05:11 PM #25:	Best way to keep immigrants out of the USA is to improve the living conditions of their original country. --- Sir Markham pointed out, drinking another brandy. "A chap who can point at you and say 'die' has the distinct advantage". <cite>Tanthalas posted [p:976472368] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Best way to keep immigrants out of the USA is to improve the living conditions of their original country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prismsblade 10/04/23 1:20:52 PM #26:	The main obstacle in my opinion aside from the cost is housing. The market is bad enough as is and a massive influx of new arrivals from now on won't help in that regard. Especially when the only places with the infrastructure to help them is saturated in just a small number of places in the country. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:976472639] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>The main obstacle in my opinion aside from the cost is housing.The market is bad enough as is and a massive influx of new arrivals from now on won't help in that regard.Especially when the only places with the infrastructure to help them is saturated in just a small number of places in the country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faizan_faizan 10/04/23 1:55:43 PM #27:	Only the powers that be can make actual, definitive decisions over issues like this. You as an individual have no power unfortunately. --- Allergic to bull****. <cite>faizan_faizan posted [p:976473278] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Only the powers that be can make actual, definitive decisions over issues like this. You as an individual have no power unfortunately. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 10/05/23 7:46:10 AM #28:	Prismsblade posted... The main obstacle in my opinion aside from the cost is housing. The market is bad enough as is and a massive influx of new arrivals from now on won't help in that regard. Especially when the only places with the infrastructure to help them is saturated in just a small number of places in the country. the people crossing the border are not gonna cross shop homes with you lol. --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:976488014] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite><quote>The main obstacle in my opinion aside from the cost is housing.The market is bad enough as is and a massive influx of new arrivals from now on won't help in that regard.Especially when the only places with the infrastructure to help them is saturated in just a small number of places in the country.</quote>the people crossing the border are not gonna cross shop homes with you lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 10/05/23 8:14:53 AM #29:	Guarantee that every American has access to housing, food, and health care at the expense of corporations and the ultra wealthy Guarantee free college education to every American Pass legislation that protects unions/workers from employer exploitation Make sure our border agents and employees aren't violent rapists that abuse migrants Build infrastructure and hire workers that can process the current level of immigration Make the immigration process streamlined with less red tape, creating a path to citizenship where migrants can then enjoy access to housing, food, and health care at the expense of corporations and the ultra wealthy as well as a protected union job Immigrants who then wish to further their education can enjoy free access to college like any American citizen. --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:976488302] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Guarantee that every American has access to housing, food, and health care at the expense of corporations and the ultra wealthyGuarantee free college education to every AmericanPass legislation that protects unions/workers from employer exploitation Make sure our border agents and employees aren't violent rapists that abuse migrants Build infrastructure and hire workers that can process the current level of immigration Make the immigration process streamlined with less red tape, creating a path to citizenship where migrants can then enjoy access to housing, food, and health care at the expense of corporations and the ultra wealthy as well as a protected union job Immigrants who then wish to further their education can enjoy free access to college like any American citizen. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 10/05/23 8:31:19 AM #30:	Immigration is a good thing. Im surprised at the number of Americans who disagree, given that youre almost entirely a nation of immigrants. And I say that as a migrant worker who has no stake in the US and wouldnt want to move there. <cite>Glob posted [p:976488481] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Immigration is a good thing. Im surprised at the number of Americans who disagree, given that youre almost entirely a nation of immigrants. And I say that as a migrant worker who has no stake in the US and wouldnt want to move there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 10/05/23 8:33:36 AM #31:	Why is it always up to the left to come up with solutions to problems the right says exist. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:976488506] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Why is it always up to the left to come up with solutions to problems the right says exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 10/05/23 10:22:07 AM #33:	The_shibe posted... the people crossing the border are not gonna cross shop homes with you lol. I wasn't talking about that but.......okay? --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer <cite>Prismsblade posted [p:976489760] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>The_shibe posted... </cite><quote>the people crossing the border are not gonna cross shop homes with you lol.</quote>I wasn't talking about that but.......okay? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_shibe 10/05/23 3:15:57 PM #34:	Prismsblade posted... I wasn't talking about that but.......okay? its amazingly dumb to think a 300k home became a 700k home because of mUh iMmigrashuns --- So post. Much gamefaqs. Wow. <cite>The_shibe posted [p:976494414] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite><quote>I wasn't talking about that but.......okay?</quote>its amazingly dumb to think a 300k home became a 700k home because of mUh iMmigrashuns </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 10/05/23 6:25:45 PM #35:	Prismsblade posted... I wasn't talking about that but.......okay? What were you talking about? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:976497758] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite><quote>I wasn't talking about that but.......okay?</quote>What were you talking about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 10/05/23 6:27:24 PM #36:	tax the rich --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:976497790] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>tax the rich </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClayGuida 10/05/23 6:34:51 PM #37:	Help fix the countries that we destabilized. --- lolAmerica <cite>ClayGuida posted [p:976497936] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Help fix the countries that we destabilized. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 10/05/23 6:35:46 PM #38:	You're not gonna succeed in an attempt to make immigrating here a less enjoyable experience than life in Honduras --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:976497963] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>You're not gonna succeed in an attempt to make immigrating here a less enjoyable experience than life in Honduras </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/05/23 6:35:57 PM #39:	Make immigration easier, I also don't think it's actually a problem and just another talking point to rile up the right-wing voter base --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:976497966] in Liberals /... [t:80582073]...</cite> <quote>Make immigration easier, I also don't think it's actually a problem and just another talking point to rile up the right-wing voter base </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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