Current Events > Just watched Saw X, ama *SPOILERS WITHIN*

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I think it's probably the best Saw movie

Zombie John Kramer was such a weird move

SayHeyyShohei posted...

Zombie John Kramer was such a weird move

it takes place between the 1st and 2nd movie

Do they still do that CSI flashback shit where we find out the janitor rear ended John Kramer's car on the way to his first procedure and he misses it so he kidnaps his whole family and terrorizes him then it turns out the janitor is grateful his family is dead and becomes his new protege

Is it a prequel to the Apple TV series See?

SayHeyyShohei posted...

Do they still do that CSI flashback shit where we find out the janitor rear ended John Kramer's car on the way to his first procedure and he misses it so he kidnaps his whole family and terrorizes him then it turns out the janitor is grateful his family is dead and becomes his new protege

No iirc there's only 1 flashback to fill in one specific gap

lilORANG posted...

Is it a prequel to the Apple TV series See?

no

As a fan of the Saw mythology, I don't feel like this was anything more than a stand alone film. There's little connecting this to any of the other films in the series besides 1, and maybe 3, there's no actual progression of the series mythology, though it's seemingly been that way since Saw 7 ended, as Spiral and Jigsaw didn't really move an overall narrative anywhere.

It's a bummer too. As I liked how all the films were basically pieces of a puzzle, but it never felt like John's 'game' really ended, with his half dozen mystery henchmen.

ClayGuida posted...

As a fan of the Saw mythology, I don't feel like this was anything more than a stand alone film. There's little connecting this to any of the other films in the series besides 1, and maybe 3, there's no actual progression of the series mythology, though it's seemingly been that way since Saw 7 ended, as Spiral and Jigsaw didn't really move an overall narrative anywhere.

It's a bummer too. As I liked how all the films were basically pieces of a puzzle, but it never felt like John's 'game' really ended, with his half dozen mystery henchmen.

I think the movie did well to expand the characters of John and Amanda more than anything. And I feel like I didn't have to suspend disbelief or question "did they really deserve this...?" like the guy who called in sick to work or the people who were cheated on by the girl?

Those types of things in the other movies dragged the movie below the lore chain of it all. I wonder if we'll see Cecilia again because I feel like, although they got a bit cartoonish at the end, actually felt like a villain, which I'm not sure I can say about any of the other movies.

John Kramers excuses for murdering people were always so dumb. He was a hypocrite

SayHeyyShohei posted...

John Kramers excuses for murdering people were always so dumb. He was a hypocrite

Yeah I agree. Even in his own moral superiority complex most of his cases were pretty weak but I felt like in this one the revenge quest was... not surprising? As in if this were the plot of a completely unrelated movie I wouldn't be shocked by it.

Weird how Jigsaw was so adamant about not involving innocent children into his shit, when he's been willing to kidnap children and put them in harms way in previous movies.

Hornswoggled posted...

Weird how Jigsaw was so adamant about not involving innocent children into his shit, when he's been willing to kidnap children and put them in harms way in previous movies.

what other movie had kids in it? I genuinely can't remember

Scintillant posted...

what other movie had kids in it? I genuinely can't remember

2 and 3

Scintillant posted...

what other movie had kids in it? I genuinely can't remember

There was Dr. Gordon's daughter from the first movie, who Jigsaw forced Zepp to abduct and eventually murder if Dr. Gordon wouldn't play along.

Scintillant posted...

I think the movie did well to expand the characters of John and Amanda more than anything. And I feel like I didn't have to suspend disbelief or question "did they really deserve this...?" like the guy who called in sick to work or the people who were cheated on by the girl?

Those types of things in the other movies dragged the movie below the lore chain of it all. I wonder if we'll see Cecilia again because I feel like, although they got a bit cartoonish at the end, actually felt like a villain, which I'm not sure I can say about any of the other movies.

The guy defrauded his insurance company by claiming he was incredibly ill, and that's why insurance companies routinely deny people who actually need help, like John himself, when he was denied access to proper healthcare.

I get the point he was making, sure that guy's actions were seemingly innocuous, but those types of actions are why we literally have people picking and choosing who gets coverage and who doesn't.

ClayGuida posted...

The guy defrauded his insurance company by claiming he was incredibly ill, and that's why insurance companies routinely deny people who actually need help, like John himself, when he was denied access to proper healthcare.

I get the point he was making, sure that guy's actions were seemingly innocuous, but those types of actions are why we literally have people picking and choosing who gets coverage and who doesn't.

Thats a fine motivation to piss off a character with a grudge against the world, but no fraud is not the reason companies are greedy.

ClayGuida posted...

The guy defrauded his insurance company by claiming he was incredibly ill, and that's why insurance companies routinely deny people who actually need help, like John himself, when he was denied access to proper healthcare.

I get the point he was making, sure that guy's actions were seemingly innocuous, but those types of actions are why we literally have people picking and choosing who gets coverage and who doesn't.

Did they add that in later because in the first movie all he says is "you don't look so sick, try this RIDICULOUS trap"

and an extension of that - how does he even find these people?

Bump for morning