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09/29/23 5:01:57 PM
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Block_that_Kick
09/29/23 5:11:53 PM
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https://www.mediaite.com/politics/exclusive-robert-f-kennedy-jr-planning-to-announce-independent-run/

2024 presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. plans to announce he will run as an independent on October 9 in Pennsylvania, Mediaite has learned.

Kennedys campaign machine is now planning attack ads against the Democratic National Committee in order to pave the way for his announcement in Philadelphia about running as an independent, according to a text reviewed by Mediaite.

Bobby feels that the DNC is changing the rules to exclude his candidacy so an independent run is the only way to go, a Kennedy campaign insider told Mediaite.

Kennedy, a notorious anti-vaccine conspiracy theorist challenging incumbent President Joe Biden for the Democratic nomination, has been flirting with a third party run in recent weeks. The New York Times reported last week that he met with the chair of the Libertarian Party, raising the prospect of a departure from the party that decades ago became synonymous with his family name.

Kennedy remains far behind Biden in the polls. Yet while the Times reported Democrats worry that a third-party run by Mr. Kennedy could draw votes away from Mr. Biden and help elect former President Donald J. Trump, its unclear whether such a run would hurt the current president more than the Republican nominee.

Indeed, polls show Republicans have a far more favorable view of Kennedy than Democrats. As the National ReviewsJim Geraghty pointed out in July, when a survey asked New Hampshire Democrats to describe Kennedy in one word, the top responses were crazy, dangerous, insane, conspiracy, and unknown.

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Humble_Novice
09/29/23 5:12:36 PM
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Won't he just turn off Independents with his insane ideas?

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andel
09/29/23 5:14:07 PM
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rfk jr isn't drawing support from democrats anyway. he will be no more a spoiler candidate than other lunatics like gary johnson or jill stein

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Tyranthraxus
09/29/23 5:14:56 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
Won't he just turn off Independents with his insane ideas?

No. Every pollster is showing ATM massive leeching from these centrist type candidates from GOP support. Sinema, RFK, and anyone dumb enough to run under "No Labels" is going to spoil the GOP chances at winning.

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CruelBuffalo
09/29/23 5:14:57 PM
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I feel like this steals votes from Trump and not Biden
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SimulationSwarm
09/29/23 5:16:11 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
Won't he just turn off Independents with his insane ideas?
Nah hes just gonna peel off non-trumper republicans

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YellowSUV
09/29/23 5:38:00 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
I feel like this steals votes from Trump and not Biden

Most likely. Despite being a "Democrat" I think he has negative approval ratings with Democrats but positive with Republicans.

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Starks
09/29/23 5:40:27 PM
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Third parties should be pushing for ranked choice and not candidates

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Solar_Crimson
09/29/23 5:40:58 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
Kennedys campaign machine is now planning attack ads against the Democratic National Committee in order to pave the way for his announcement in Philadelphia about running as an independent, according to a text reviewed by Mediaite.
Truly an enlightened centrist.

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Dark_Moon
09/29/23 5:41:19 PM
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Not really surprise, we have enough people in politics that have misinformation and lies. Let him (hopefully) leech off the GOP.

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UltimateWing
09/29/23 5:43:12 PM
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https://www.twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1707843007293038884

The chuds are mad. Like Charlie Kirk.

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brestugo
09/29/23 5:45:16 PM
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I'm taking my dozens of votes and leaving the party! Fuck y'all!

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PeteyParker
09/29/23 5:50:07 PM
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Haha they kept begging him to run and now he announces that he's going to run and they are saying "Not like that!"

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Jagr_68
09/29/23 5:50:39 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
I feel like this steals votes from Trump and not Biden

RFK has an IQ smaller than a toddler's shoe size so yeah, he's prob not seeing this likely angle. Fucking dumbfuck.

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TonyKojima
09/29/23 5:53:21 PM
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andel posted...
rfk jr isn't drawing support from democrats anyway. he will be no more a spoiler candidate than other lunatics like gary johnson or jill stein
He will take trump votes if anything. Bye bye RFK Jr lol

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Bass
09/29/23 5:56:00 PM
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Fuck off RFK Jr. No one is falling for your grift.

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Phantom_Nook
09/29/23 5:57:16 PM
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Bass posted...
Fuck off RFK Jr. No one is falling for your grift.
Not true. Republicans are falling for it.

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Priere
09/29/23 5:59:09 PM
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Is he better than Drumpf?

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Bass
09/29/23 6:01:07 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Not true. Republicans are falling for it.
Fine, I'll admend.

Bass posted...
Fuck off RFK Jr. No one with half a brain is falling for your grift.


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SimulationSwarm
09/29/23 6:09:23 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Not true. Republicans are falling for it.
Republicans and falling for a grift, name a more iconic duo

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Justin2Krelian
09/29/23 6:12:10 PM
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andel posted...
rfk jr isn't drawing support from democrats anyway. he will be no more a spoiler candidate than other lunatics like gary johnson or jill stein

Stein probably cost Hillary Michigan. But yeah, RFK will probably just take both equally or more from the right

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itachi15243
09/29/23 6:13:08 PM
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No way he doesn't take more votes from the right.

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Doom_Art
09/29/23 6:15:09 PM
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RFK will absolutely take more votes from Trump lol

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thronedfire2
09/29/23 7:25:39 PM
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I hope no one ever actually believed he was a democrat

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creativerealms
09/29/23 7:31:00 PM
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Jagr_68 posted...
RFK has an IQ smaller than a toddler's shoe size so yeah, he's prob not seeing this likely angle. Fucking dumbfuck.
No he's smart. When it comes to law. He is a skilled lawyer with an outstanding career. He just knows nothing about medicine, and shouldn't be listened to on that subject.

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ForsakenHermit
09/29/23 7:32:08 PM
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Thankfully I don't see the left falling for this DINO bait.

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Inohira
09/29/23 7:43:43 PM
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Most three way polls see Biden losing significantly more votes than Trump:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

The only exception is when Trump himself runs 3rd party, and naturally loses a lot of his vote to the Republican nominee.

Too many people assume things work how they want them to work instead of how they actually do work.

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Doom_Art
09/29/23 7:57:00 PM
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Inohira posted...
Most three way polls see Biden losing significantly more votes than Trump:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

The only exception is when Trump himself runs 3rd party, and naturally loses a lot of his vote to the Republican nominee.

Too many people assume things work how they want them to work instead of how they actually do work.
You'll need more than two or three polls with better margins than that to make that kinda call

RFK isn't even in any of those

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cjsdowg
09/29/23 7:59:23 PM
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Only Republicans like him.

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mystic_belmont
09/29/23 8:03:36 PM
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This is my shocked face.

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Inohira
09/29/23 8:14:54 PM
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Doom_Art posted...

You'll need more than two or three polls with better margins than that to make that kinda call

RFK isn't even in any of those

Because the notion of RFK running independent is new. But the likes of Joe Manchin appeal to similar groups as him.

The one poll done on RFK is the same story:

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-faces-disastrous-defeat-if-rfk-jr-runs-third-party-candidate-1828858?amp=1

If the Democrats and Republicans nominate Biden and Trump respectively, and Kennedy runs as an independent, 33 percent of Democratic voters would "likely" vote for him according to the poll, including 14 percent who would be "very likely" to back him.

Among likely voters as a whole, 25 percent said they would likely vote for Kennedy if he runs against Biden and Trump, including 14 percent of Republicans, with 10 percent saying they are "very likely" to cast their ballots this way.

Granted, Rassmussen isn't a credible pollster, but in this case their findings are in line with the general trend of an independent "moderate" douchebag peeling off Dem. votes.

If they were more likely to take votes from the challenger instead they probably just wouldn't bother.

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divot1338
09/29/23 8:21:01 PM
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Inohira posted...
Rasmussen
No. Just no.

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DarthAragorn
09/29/23 8:58:18 PM
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My dipshit libertarian uncle likes RFK Jr if that tells you anything about who he appeals to

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Justin2Krelian
09/29/23 9:58:14 PM
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Inohira posted...
Most three way polls see Biden losing significantly more votes than Trump:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

The only exception is when Trump himself runs 3rd party, and naturally loses a lot of his vote to the Republican nominee.

Too many people assume things work how they want them to work instead of how they actually do work.

Cornell West taking more from Biden at least makes sense. But it looks like when you throw Joe Manchin in there, Biden does better again (its still a bad poll for him either way)


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jefffan
09/29/23 10:10:03 PM
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UltimateWing posted...
https://www.twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1707843007293038884

The chuds are mad. Like Charlie Kirk.
Imagine actually competing over the conspiracy theories vote and how ridiculous that sounds

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ShaneMcComez
09/29/23 11:38:07 PM
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SimulationSwarm posted...
Republicans and falling for a grift, name a more iconic duo
I guess that's what happens when you cultivate your base of voters to be as stupid as fuck. They do stupid shit like voting third party.

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andel
09/29/23 11:42:04 PM
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Inohira posted...
Because the notion of RFK running independent is new. But the likes of Joe Manchin appeal to similar groups as him.

The one poll done on RFK is the same story:

https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-faces-disastrous-defeat-if-rfk-jr-runs-third-party-candidate-1828858?amp=1

Granted, Rassmussen isn't a credible pollster, but in this case their findings are in line with the general trend of an independent "moderate" douchebag peeling off Dem. votes.

If they were more likely to take votes from the challenger instead they probably just wouldn't bother.

lmao that rasmussen assertion is absurd. why do you always try to trot out the most obvious concern trolling? no one is falling for it

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andel
09/29/23 11:43:27 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
My dipshit libertarian uncle likes RFK Jr if that tells you anything about who he appeals to

he exclusively appeals to wingnut far right extremists kinda like tulsi gabbard. he has never had any appeal among democrats nationally, like not even a single percent against actual candidates

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09/30/23 4:02:01 AM
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Doom_Art
09/30/23 6:18:07 AM
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Justin2Krelian posted...
Cornell West taking more from Biden at least makes sense. But it looks like when you throw Joe Manchin in there, Biden does better again (its still a bad poll for him either way)
The thing about 3rd party polling is they always poll higher than their eventual result.

Remember Gary Johnson polling 5%-10% a bunch in 2016?

People like the idea of voting for indy/third party candidates but there's always a snap back eventually

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Doom_Art
09/30/23 6:20:00 AM
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andel posted...
he exclusively appeals to wingnut far right extremists kinda like tulsi gabbard. he has never had any appeal among democrats nationally, like not even a single percent against actual candidates
Yeah it's the thing about these candidates that always confuses me.

Like, if you're going to be a right wing plant why not just lie better?

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