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KitKats
10/01/23 1:01:43 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/0/AAevWaAAE43m.jpg

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Bandit_Keith
10/01/23 1:11:59 PM
#301:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
The only thing I insinuated was that Drizz made a bad faith argument and accused me of doing something they should have accused shock for doing as well.
Removing Drizz's quote header from it and saying Shock did it does not insinuate that at all.

Your original post coming at Shock was pretty awful as well. All you needed to do is quote his post asking if someone was talking from inside or outside of the Trans community and ask him to answer as well. Because Shock is not anyone else's gatekeeper.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:15:07 PM
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Bandit_Keith posted...
Removing Drizz's quote header from it and saying Shock did it does not insinuate that at all.

Context does, however. Someone who is reading through the topic would seen it. They don't need a quote header for that and it's not like I left it out intentionally. It was not there because that's how GameFAQs selective quoting works.

Bandit_Keith posted...
Your original post coming at Shock was pretty awful as well. All you needed to do is quote his post asking if someone was talking from inside or outside of the Trans community and ask him to answer as well. Because Shock is not anyone else's gatekeeper.

My first post regarding shock's hypocrisy was pointing out their lack of self awareness. And yes, shock certainly does act like a gatekeeper.

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Gwynevere
10/01/23 1:19:58 PM
#304:


KitKats posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/0/AAevWaAAE43m.jpg
Yes

The answer is always yes

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:22:55 PM
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Did you, or did you not ask someone if they were part of the trans community and then proceed to insinuate that if they weren't, the discussion would be different for you?

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Inohira
10/01/23 1:23:13 PM
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Truth is shock shouldn't have been engaged on his "are you trans or not" query to begin with since one doesn't need to be trans to recognize transphobic rhetoric. Wu being part of the trans community does not absolve her of the ignorance in the screenshots.

This is what a lot of partisan back patters do not get. Ideology matters more than association.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:24:04 PM
#308:


Unfortunately arguing and appearing right seems to be more important for a lot of folk.

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ArsGoetia
10/01/23 1:25:38 PM
#309:


do yall have a point beyond trying to dunk on shock
i aint got any love for the dude and hes got me blocked but fr feels like youre chasing a win than taking a stand
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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:28:59 PM
#311:


ArsGoetia posted...
do yall have a point beyond trying to dunk on shock
i aint got any love for the dude and hes got me blocked but fr feels like youre chasing a win than taking a stand

This goes all the way back to the original point. Defending Brianna Wu for this is disgusting.

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Gwynevere
10/01/23 1:29:24 PM
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ArsGoetia posted...
feels like youre chasing a win than taking a stand
That's exactly what's happening

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:29:58 PM
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You literally said "Good" in response to saying they were.

Stop moving goal posts here. You were relieved they were trans and you were relieved because you tried to gatekeep an opinion that you disagreed with.

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VeggetaX
10/01/23 1:32:25 PM
#314:


What do you get for taking a stand with Shock knowing they are the way they are? I personally love to dunk on the person whenever they have a crap take.

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Garabandal
10/01/23 1:35:01 PM
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lmao @ COVxy being a queer ally. He's the exact kind of psychiatric establishment goon who would have fought tooth and nail to keep homosexuality in the DSM back in the 70s.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:35:27 PM
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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:36:51 PM
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You think I'm a pseudo ally even though I believe in all trans related causes including being against blatant transphobia full stop, which you seem to be swaying away from with defending Brianna Wu.

Are you doing this because you don't like me or are you doing it because I'm outside the trans community? And what makes you the gatekeeper if it's the latter?

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:39:30 PM
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Why can't you do this?

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Gwynevere
10/01/23 1:40:34 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
What do you get for taking a stand with Shock knowing they are the way they are? I personally love to dunk on the person whenever they have a crap take.
What's the crap take? That the opinions of trans people should have more weight when it comes to trans issues? That's not exactly an uncommon stance when it comes to a community discussing issues that affect them specifically

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:41:31 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
What's the crap take? That the opinions of trans people should have more weight when it comes to trans issues? That's not exactly an uncommon stance when it comes to a community discussing issues that affect that community specifically

More like, a trans person defending transphobia shouldn't be considered gospel over a non trans person calling transphobia out.

Which seems to be a huge cognitive dissonance in this thread.

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KitKats
10/01/23 1:47:34 PM
#323:


Gwynevere posted...
Yes

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KitKats
10/01/23 1:50:02 PM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
More like, a trans person defending transphobia shouldn't be considered gospel over a non trans person calling transphobia out.

Which seems to be a huge cognitive dissonance in this thread.
I didnt get the impression shock was defending comments made by Wu, the discussion appeared to be tangential from my perspective

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:51:52 PM
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Sounds like something Brianna Wu would do. Create a space for her to spread transphobia, and then blame that she was harassed.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 1:56:21 PM
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You're literally defending someone who made transphobic comments. And now you want to leave so you can enable it with people who you would like to do the same.

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VeggetaX
10/01/23 2:04:39 PM
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Gwynevere posted...
What's the crap take? That the opinions of trans people should have more weight when it comes to trans issues? That's not exactly an uncommon stance when it comes to a community discussing issues that affect them specifically
Agreed however with knowing Shock it's probably his convenient way of rejecting any kind of opposition rather than a "hey it's probably better to let we decide on this".

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 2:05:29 PM
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Because I know that calling out transphobia is nothing to be embarassed about.

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ArsGoetia
10/01/23 2:08:02 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
Agreed however with knowing Shock it's probably his convenient way of rejecting any kind of opposition rather than a "hey it's probably better to let we decide on this".

but like
do you have any reason to be in this topic that isnt convenient axe grinding?
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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 2:10:11 PM
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Remember when you said I was the one gaslighting?

You're very bad at this. For anyone just tuning in, one of the many times I have was literally a couple posts before the post I just quoted.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 2:21:53 PM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
You're literally defending someone who made transphobic comments. And now you want to leave so you can enable it with people who you would like to do the same.

SayHeyyShohei posted...
More like, a trans person defending transphobia shouldn't be considered gospel over a non trans person calling transphobia out.

Which seems to be a huge cognitive dissonance in this thread.

SayHeyyShohei posted...
You think I'm a pseudo ally even though I believe in all trans related causes including being against blatant transphobia full stop, which you seem to be swaying away from with defending Brianna Wu.

Are you doing this because you don't like me or are you doing it because I'm outside the trans community? And what makes you the gatekeeper if it's the latter?

Literally just on this page alone.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 2:23:38 PM
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Calling out transphobia isn't calling out transphobia now?

Are you okay?

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SayHeyyShohei
10/01/23 2:28:01 PM
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Sorry, I forgot I'm speaking from outside the trans community so I'm not allowed to deem something transphobic. Brianna Wu didn't make transphobic comments. I never called them out. This topic is just a figment of everyone's imagination.

This is the worst attempt at gaslighting, even for you.

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Inohira
10/01/23 5:09:56 PM
#341:


ArsGoetia posted...


but like
do you have any reason to be in this topic that isnt convenient axe grinding?

His presence wouldn't be needed if people weren't defending the clown.

Those of us directly opposed to the anti-trans/anti-non-binary statements in the screenshots are being purity tested and called trolls while people rationalizing them are covering for each other and making excuses why the comments are fine in this context. It makes no sense and thus deserves to be shit on.

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VeggetaX
10/01/23 5:10:56 PM
#342:


ArsGoetia posted...
but like
do you have any reason to be in this topic that isnt convenient axe grinding?
Same reason for you standing on the opposite I presume. I guess you can say we cancel each other out then

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ArsGoetia
10/01/23 5:23:59 PM
#343:


VeggetaX posted...
Same reason for you standing on the opposite I presume. I guess you can say we cancel each other out then

what axe am i grinding itt
all i see are a bunch of no names with no track record of defending trans rights suddenly posturing as huge advocates when it enables them to try to dunk on brianna wu and shockthemonkey
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Delirious_Beard
10/01/23 5:25:31 PM
#344:


stop arguing with kanjo

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VeggetaX
10/01/23 5:26:28 PM
#345:


ArsGoetia posted...
what axe am i grinding itt
all i see are a bunch of no names with no track record of defending trans rights suddenly posturing as huge advocates when it enables them to try to dunk on brianna wu and shockthemonkey
So it's a shit show of people tryna out-ally one another. Some shit Shock regularly does and yet somehow the hero out of all of this then?

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Inohira
10/01/23 5:28:34 PM
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The mods are apprently cool with people defending bigoted statements too.

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ArsGoetia
10/01/23 5:35:23 PM
#348:


VeggetaX posted...
So it's a shit show of people tryna out-ally one another. Some shit Shock regularly does and yet somehow the hero out of all of this then?


dunno

like i said shock has me blocked so i have no clue what hes said ITT
but the opposition aint inspiring a whole lot of confidence iykwim
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AloneIBreak
10/01/23 5:43:34 PM
#349:


What post do I need to go back to in order to track this dramatic conflict from the beginning?

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