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Xenogears15 09/26/23 2:52:54 PM #1:	That was, without a doubt, the darkest ending in the entire franchise. It's like the game remembered what happened in the first few hours of the game at the very end and just hit you with a sledgehammer to the heart. Three of my favorite characters died (or, maybe two? We'll have to see, but I'm pretty sure that Clive's dead), the land will be cosigned to a slow death with the spread of the Blight, and even if the Hideaway succeeds in making blighted land farmable, many will still die from starvation getting to that point. Oh, and the Akahasic are atill wandering around, no? Ultima was correct in the end where he essentially laughed at Clive for winning. "Yeah, you won. But what's your prize?" essentially telling him to enjoy the slow death of his species. I know that there are two DLC planned that I hope expand the story. There's some headcanon in the subreddit that Medicine Girl is going to formulate Soft to cure branded from the curse (and maybe save Clive), and that she'll end up being the dominant of Leviathan, but that's just wishful thinking on the community's part, I think. I still see only a glimmer of hope at the end, while everything else is pretty damned bleak. A part of me is hoping for a XVI-2 as well, but I want to see how the DLC go first. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:976319137] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>That was, without a doubt, the darkest ending in the entire franchise. It's like the game remembered what happened in the first few hours of the game at the very end and just hit you with a sledgehammer to the heart. Three of my favorite characters died (or, maybe two? We'll have to see, but I'm pretty sure that Clive's dead), the land will be cosigned to a slow death with the spread of the Blight, and even if the Hideaway succeeds in making blighted land farmable, many will still die from starvation getting to that point. Oh, and the Akahasic are atill wandering around, no?Ultima was correct in the end where he essentially laughed at Clive for winning. "Yeah, you won. But what's your prize?" essentially telling him to enjoy the slow death of his species.I know that there are two DLC planned that I hope expand the story. There's some headcanon in the subreddit that Medicine Girl is going to formulate Soft to cure branded from the curse (and maybe save Clive), and that she'll end up being the dominant of Leviathan, but that's just wishful thinking on the community's part, I think. I still see only a glimmer of hope at the end, while everything else is pretty damned bleak.A part of me is hoping for a XVI-2 as well, but I want to see how the DLC go first. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 09/26/23 2:54:30 PM #2:	I loved it, the ending made me tear up a bunch. It's a sad ending but one absolutely filled with hope. I thought it was perfect. I think you are reading far too much into the blight, as it was clear that the land was saved from the removal of magic. That post credit scene showed as much. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:976319164] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>I loved it, the ending made me tear up a bunch. It's a sad ending but one absolutely filled with hope. I thought it was perfect. I think you are reading far too much into the blight, as it was clear that the land was saved from the removal of magic. That post credit scene showed as much. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
solosnake 09/26/23 2:54:51 PM #3:	Xenogears15 posted... A part of me is hoping for a XVI-2 please god no --- "We would have no NBA possibly if they got rid of all the flopping." ~ Dwyane Wade <cite>solosnake posted [p:976319171] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>A part of me is hoping for a XVI-2</quote>please god no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 09/26/23 2:58:51 PM #4:	solosnake posted... please god no I'm on the fence, and only if the DLC is good enough. Kaldrenthebold posted... I loved it, the ending made me tear up a bunch. It's a sad ending but one absolutely filled with hope. I thought it was perfect. I think you are reading far too much into the blight, as it was clear that the land was saved from the removal of magic. That post credit scene showed as much. I didn't see that. I saw that the Blight was still spreading unabated and there was nothing to be done. I think even Ultima said the same? Where did you see otherwise? --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:976319232] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>solosnake posted... </cite><quote>please god no</quote>I'm on the fence, and only if the DLC is good enough.Kaldrenthebold posted... </cite><quote>I loved it, the ending made me tear up a bunch. It's a sad ending but one absolutely filled with hope. I thought it was perfect. I think you are reading far too much into the blight, as it was clear that the land was saved from the removal of magic. That post credit scene showed as much.</quote>I didn't see that. I saw that the Blight was still spreading unabated and there was nothing to be done. I think even Ultima said the same? Where did you see otherwise? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AbstraktProfSC2 09/26/23 3:01:53 PM #5:	i was just relieved that I beat it and I dont have to touch it ever again --- Talk about backseat fishing. <cite>AbstraktProfSC2 posted [p:976319299] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>i was just relieved that I beat it and I dont have to touch it ever again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MJOLNRVII 09/26/23 3:02:49 PM #6:	FFXVI End/Postgame Spoilers I saw it as the land was "saved" because the people at the Hideaway figured out how to grow stuff and do other things(like heating up the forges w/o magic) in a blighted land with no assistance from magic. Ultima was right about the land going to shit, but humanity survived anyway. --- https://abload.de/img/aonp7v.gif <cite>MJOLNRVII posted [p:976319319] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>FFXVI End/Postgame SpoilersI saw it as the land was "saved" because the people at the Hideaway figured out how to grow stuff and do other things(like heating up the forges w/o magic) in a blighted land with no assistance from magic. Ultima was right about the land going to shit, but humanity survived anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 09/26/23 3:03:00 PM #7:	So are we just not using spoiler tags anymore or what's going on. --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 <cite>CyricZ posted [p:976319324] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>So are we just not using spoiler tags anymore or what's going on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 09/26/23 3:04:11 PM #8:	Xenogears15 posted... I'm on the fence, and only if the DLC is good enough. ~~I didn't see that. I saw that the Blight was still spreading unabated and there was nothing to be done. I think even Ultima said the same? Where did you see otherwise?~~ The epilogue when magic was gone and they are in a super lush green area having a normal life. Ultima was just being a dick, but he was wrong. The entire purpose of the game is that yeah, humans are flawed, tragedy will follow the destruction of the crystals, but we persevere and move forward, looking for the light on the horizon. The land wasn't doomed at all, it was the dying words of a lunatic god. CyricZ posted... So are we just not using spoiler tags anymore or what's going on. Figured a topic about beating the game would allude to a discussion on it, but I can see how that might not be the case. I've gone and edited my posts with tags. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:976319346] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>I'm on the fence, and only if the DLC is good enough.I didn't see that. I saw that the Blight was still spreading unabated and there was nothing to be done. I think even Ultima said the same? Where did you see otherwise?</quote>The epilogue when magic was gone and they are in a super lush green area having a normal life. Ultima was just being a dick, but he was wrong. The entire purpose of the game is that yeah, humans are flawed, tragedy will follow the destruction of the crystals, but we persevere and move forward, looking for the light on the horizon. The land wasn't doomed at all, it was the dying words of a lunatic god.CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>So are we just not using spoiler tags anymore or what's going on.</quote>Figured a topic about beating the game would allude to a discussion on it, but I can see how that might not be the case. I've gone and edited my posts with tags. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 09/26/23 3:06:53 PM #9:	CyricZ posted... So are we just not using spoiler tags anymore or what's going on. Whoops. MJOLNRVII posted... I saw it as the land was "saved" because the people at the Hideaway figured out how to grow stuff and do other things(like heating up the forges w/o magic) in a blighted land with no assistance from magic. Ultima was right about the land going to shit, but humanity survived anyway. As I took it: far as I know they've only grown shitty apples and drinkable water. A huge first step, but they got a long way to go to growing other things that sustain civilization, like wheat, barley, and rice. Kaldrenthebold posted... The epilogue when magic was gone and they are in a super lush green area having a normal life. Ultima was just being a dick, but he was wrong. The entire purpose of the game is that yeah, humans are flawed, tragedy will follow the destruction of the crystals, but we persevere and move forward, looking for the light on the horizon. The land wasn't doomed at all, it was the dying words of a lunatic god. ...I missed that. I comitted the cardinal sin of closing the game after the credits rolled. Looks like I gotta fight the last battle again. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:976319408] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>So are we just not using spoiler tags anymore or what's going on.</quote>Whoops.MJOLNRVII posted... </cite><quote>I saw it as the land was "saved" because the people at the Hideaway figured out how to grow stuff and do other things(like heating up the forges w/o magic) in a blighted land with no assistance from magic. Ultima was right about the land going to shit, but humanity survived anyway.</quote>As I took it: far as I know they've only grown shitty apples and drinkable water. A huge first step, but they got a long way to go to growing other things that sustain civilization, like wheat, barley, and rice.Kaldrenthebold posted... </cite><quote>The epilogue when magic was gone and they are in a super lush green area having a normal life. Ultima was just being a dick, but he was wrong. The entire purpose of the game is that yeah, humans are flawed, tragedy will follow the destruction of the crystals, but we persevere and move forward, looking for the light on the horizon. The land wasn't doomed at all, it was the dying words of a lunatic god.</quote>...I missed that. I comitted the cardinal sin of closing the game after the credits rolled. Looks like I gotta fight the last battle again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 09/26/23 3:07:58 PM #10:	Xenogears15 posted... ~~...I missed that. I comitted the cardinal sin of closing the game after the credits rolled. Looks like I gotta fight the last battle again.~~ No need: (Sorry it's someone's playthrough, I couldn't find no commentary) ~~https://youtu.be/QhggOBNJjQU?t=4823~~ --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:976319429] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>...I missed that. I comitted the cardinal sin of closing the game after the credits rolled. Looks like I gotta fight the last battle again.</quote>No need:(Sorry it's someone's playthrough, I couldn't find no commentary)https://youtu.be/QhggOBNJjQU?t=4823 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MJOLNRVII 09/26/23 3:09:12 PM #11:	CyricZ posted... So are we just not using spoiler tags anymore or what's going on. Shit sorry. I honestly assumed it said spoilers in the topic title since there weren't any spoiler tags in the OP. --- https://abload.de/img/aonp7v.gif <cite>MJOLNRVII posted [p:976319460] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>CyricZ posted... </cite><quote>So are we just not using spoiler tags anymore or what's going on.</quote>Shit sorry. I honestly assumed it said spoilers in the topic title since there weren't any spoiler tags in the OP. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 09/26/23 3:09:49 PM #12:	did you enjoy the kamehameha vs final flash? --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:976319477] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>did you enjoy the kamehameha vs final flash? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 09/26/23 3:12:40 PM #13:	Kaldrenthebold posted... No need: (Sorry it's someone's playthrough, I couldn't find no commentary) ~~https://youtu.be/QhggOBNJjQU?t=4823~~ Thank you, I'll watch this on my next break. I also learned by browsing that there's a Final Fantasy mode after this, which explains where the last 2 trophies are locked behind, is my guess. So looks like I got to beat it again to get the clear data saved. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:976319525] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Kaldrenthebold posted... </cite><quote>No need:(Sorry it's someone's playthrough, I couldn't find no commentary)https://youtu.be/QhggOBNJjQU?t=4823</quote>Thank you, I'll watch this on my next break.I also learned by browsing that there's a Final Fantasy mode after this, which explains where the last 2 trophies are locked behind, is my guess. So looks like I got to beat it again to get the clear data saved. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 09/26/23 3:14:15 PM #14:	Xenogears15 posted... Thank you, I'll watch this on my next break. I also learned by browsing that there's a Final Fantasy mode after this, which explains where the last 2 trophies are locked behind, is my guess. So looks like I got to beat it again to get the clear data saved. Thankfully it IS sans commentary, they just say "oh there's more!" so you should be good to go. It's like a two minute thing but really puts the ending in perspective. And yeah it has a NG+ mode with new weapons to get and harder enemies. Seems fun, I'll definitely check it out when the DLC comes out. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:976319560] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>Thank you, I'll watch this on my next break.I also learned by browsing that there's a Final Fantasy mode after this, which explains where the last 2 trophies are locked behind, is my guess. So looks like I got to beat it again to get the clear data saved.</quote>Thankfully it IS sans commentary, they just say "oh there's more!" so you should be good to go. It's like a two minute thing but really puts the ending in perspective. And yeah it has a NG+ mode with new weapons to get and harder enemies. Seems fun, I'll definitely check it out when the DLC comes out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 09/26/23 3:14:16 PM #15:	Kimbos_Egg posted... did you enjoy the kamehameha vs final flash? ? --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:976319561] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Kimbos_Egg posted... </cite><quote>did you enjoy the kamehameha vs final flash?</quote>? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kimbos_Egg 09/26/23 3:15:48 PM #16:	Xenogears15 posted... ? ~~https://youtu.be/mqUTJC3nA6I?t=2614~~ --- You think you've Got problems? https://imgur.com/OnEOsdT <cite>Kimbos_Egg posted [p:976319594] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Xenogears15 posted... </cite><quote>?</quote>https://youtu.be/mqUTJC3nA6I?t=2614 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seaman_Prime 09/26/23 3:17:24 PM #17:	Im in the opinion that Clive lives. Jill compares him to a sunrise near the end, Tomes brings up him taking up the pen after all the fighting is done and Clive only loses his left hand. Clive has taken up a different names and chose Joshua as his pen name. <cite>Seaman_Prime posted [p:976319622] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Im in the opinion that Clive lives. Jill compares him to a sunrise near the end, Tomes brings up him taking up the pen after all the fighting is done and Clive only loses his left hand. Clive has taken up a different names and chose Joshua as his pen name.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 09/26/23 3:17:35 PM #18:	Kimbos_Egg posted... ~~https://youtu.be/mqUTJC3nA6I?t=2614~~ Man that final fight was so fucking good. That and Bahamut were just such highlights for me. Seaman_Prime posted... Im in the opinion that Clive lives. Jill compares him to a sunrise near the end, Tomes brings up him taking up the pen after all the fighting is done and Clive only loses his left hand. Clive has taken up a different names and chose Joshua as his pen name. The thing about the ending is it's so vague and there's sprinkles throughout that can point to any number of endings. This is one that I think of too, because the final song when everyone is crying is also all about coming back. And Clive says to Jill "when you see the rising sun I will be there" which, well, she saw the rising sun. It could just be an allegory for the birth of the free world, but hopefully DLC can help it out a bit. I like how it's ambiguous, it makes it much more interesting to me. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:976319625] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Kimbos_Egg posted... </cite><quote>https://youtu.be/mqUTJC3nA6I?t=2614</quote>Man that final fight was so fucking good. That and Bahamut were just such highlights for me.Seaman_Prime posted... </cite><quote>Im in the opinion that Clive lives. Jill compares him to a sunrise near the end, Tomes brings up him taking up the pen after all the fighting is done and Clive only loses his left hand. Clive has taken up a different names and chose Joshua as his pen name.</quote>The thing about the ending is it's so vague and there's sprinkles throughout that can point to any number of endings. This is one that I think of too, because the final song when everyone is crying is also all about coming back. And Clive says to Jill "when you see the rising sun I will be there" which, well, she saw the rising sun. It could just be an allegory for the birth of the free world, but hopefully DLC can help it out a bit. I like how it's ambiguous, it makes it much more interesting to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xenogears15 09/26/23 3:40:44 PM #20:	Kimbos_Egg posted... ~~https://youtu.be/mqUTJC3nA6I?t=2614~~ OH YEAH. That got a nice laugh outta me. That whole fight was fun as hell. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:976320084] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>Kimbos_Egg posted... </cite><quote>https://youtu.be/mqUTJC3nA6I?t=2614</quote>OH YEAH. That got a nice laugh outta me. That whole fight was fun as hell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiritSephiroth 09/26/23 3:47:26 PM #21:	I really did love the game. They did a fantastic job with the story, really strong. Also to touch on the earlier posts here: Pretty sure the blight is still a thing, even with the removal of magic. Although was it magic in the first place that caused it due to Ultima's race overusing it? I forgot. But it was implied by both Ultima and Clive that there would be suffering and death after Ultima's defeat, due to the blight approaching. ~~Edit: But we do see the post credit scenes where humanity survived with a lush green area. So maybe they found a way to survive? Or the blight really did end.~~ --- https://imgur.com/a/6KBlCUI https://imgur.com/TpM5kyb https://imgur.com/ZzXmr8X https://imgur.com/a/9svV8Gn https://imgur.com/a/vTiJpz3 https://imgur.com/a/j8PIo7A <cite>SpiritSephiroth posted [p:976320210] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>I really did love the game. They did a fantastic job with the story, really strong.Also to touch on the earlier posts here:Pretty sure the blight is still a thing, even with the removal of magic. Although was it magic in the first place that caused it due to Ultima's race overusing it? I forgot. But it was implied by both Ultima and Clive that there would be suffering and death after Ultima's defeat, due to the blight approaching. Edit: But we do see the post credit scenes where humanity survived with a lush green area. So maybe they found a way to survive? Or the blight really did end. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 09/26/23 3:52:27 PM #22:	SpiritSephiroth posted... I really did love the game. They did a fantastic job with the story, really strong. Also to touch on the earlier posts here: Pretty sure the blight is still a thing, even with the removal of magic. Although was it magic in the first place that caused it due to Ultima's race overusing it? I forgot. But it was implied by both Ultima and Clive that there would be suffering and death after Ultima's defeat, due to the blight approaching. ~~Edit: But we do see the post credit scenes where humanity survived with a lush green area. So maybe they found a way to survive? Or the blight really did end.~~ I mean the crystals were draining the magic from the land and causing the blight. One would think that, with all crystals gone, then at least the blight would stop because there's no more magic being siphoned from the planet. I'm not saying it goes away fully, it just stops spreading. So yeah there is a lot of blighted garbage around. He was using the crystals to suck up the life force to get enough magical power to create a whole new world and merge with Mythos. At least this was all my interpretation, that the crystals WERE bad and getting rid of them all + Ultima meant the blight was at least stopped. --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:976320294] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>SpiritSephiroth posted... </cite><quote>I really did love the game. They did a fantastic job with the story, really strong.Also to touch on the earlier posts here:Pretty sure the blight is still a thing, even with the removal of magic. Although was it magic in the first place that caused it due to Ultima's race overusing it? I forgot. But it was implied by both Ultima and Clive that there would be suffering and death after Ultima's defeat, due to the blight approaching. Edit: But we do see the post credit scenes where humanity survived with a lush green area. So maybe they found a way to survive? Or the blight really did end.</quote>I mean the crystals were draining the magic from the land and causing the blight. One would think that, with all crystals gone, then at least the blight would stop because there's no more magic being siphoned from the planet. I'm not saying it goes away fully, it just stops spreading. So yeah there is a lot of blighted garbage around. He was using the crystals to suck up the life force to get enough magical power to create a whole new world and merge with Mythos. At least this was all my interpretation, that the crystals WERE bad and getting rid of them all + Ultima meant the blight was at least stopped. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Senta 09/26/23 3:52:31 PM #23:	SpiritSephiroth posted... I really did love the game. They did a fantastic job with the story, really strong. Also to touch on the earlier posts here: Pretty sure the blight is still a thing, even with the removal of magic. Although was it magic in the first place that caused it due to Ultima's race overusing it? I forgot. But it was implied by both Ultima and Clive that there would be suffering and death after Ultima's defeat, due to the blight approaching. ~~Edit: But we do see the post credit scenes where humanity survived with a lush green area. So maybe they found a way to survive? Or the blight really did end.~~ The blight ended. Magic was the cause of it, and magic was removed from the world. The death and suffering predicted was because the entire world's population was based around using magic for every daily task. They didn't have the skills, tech or know-how on how to survive without magic to do things for them. Hell, they saw it as a miracle when a basic forge that didn't need magic was designed. --- http://tinyurl.com/b95dwtg <cite>Senta posted [p:976320296] in I beat FFX... [t:80577913]...</cite> <quote>SpiritSephiroth posted... </cite><quote>I really did love the game. They did a fantastic job with the story, really strong.Also to touch on the earlier posts here:Pretty sure the blight is still a thing, even with the removal of magic. Although was it magic in the first place that caused it due to Ultima's race overusing it? I forgot. But it was implied by both Ultima and Clive that there would be suffering and death after Ultima's defeat, due to the blight approaching. Edit: But we do see the post credit scenes where humanity survived with a lush green area. So maybe they found a way to survive? Or the blight really did end.</quote>The blight ended. Magic was the cause of it, and magic was removed from the world. The death and suffering predicted was because the entire world's population was based around using magic for every daily task. They didn't have the skills, tech or know-how on how to survive without magic to do things for them. Hell, they saw it as a miracle when a basic forge that didn't need magic was designed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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