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bsp77
09/26/23 1:40:16 PM
#101:


--Zero- posted...
It means girls that are your friends. That was the context there lol. Its why I said girlfriends not girlfriend.
I don't know of men who use that word for female friends. Yes, "female" is okay in this context.

Regardless, I didn't see your comment about not caring about friends in general prior to messaging. That admittedly changes things. Your response was still immature though.

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codey
09/26/23 1:40:32 PM
#102:


--Zero- posted...
The way I responded to the other guy was needed since he was trying to insult me for my preferences. Im not trying to look good here at all. I started off responding to the topic in question from the first post then in turn responded to the people being personally offended.

Your preference is that women are sex objects and that's the extent of their worth.

--Zero- posted...
Yeah I can see his logic, but idk where he got that logic from since I never implied Im out to fuck women that are taken. Thats looking at the topic and adding more to it. Im mainly talking about having close relationships with the attractive ones. Im not going to bang someones girl nor am I going to be friends with them because theyre taken. Its not worth it to me.

You say it right there. If a women isn't available to you for sex they have no worth. That's pathetic.

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hockeybub89
09/26/23 1:40:53 PM
#103:


--Zero- posted...
he was trying to insult me for my preferences.
The preference of "Any woman who is friendly with me"

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wackyteen
09/26/23 1:42:21 PM
#104:


I mean, I don't see why not.

If you respect someone, you can interact with them on all levels that are appropriate and respect them enough to not interact with them on inappropriate levels.

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hockeybub89
09/26/23 1:42:26 PM
#105:


codey posted...
Your preference is that women are sex objects and that's the extent of their worth.

You say it right there. If a women isn't available to you for sex they have no worth. That's pathetic.
Actually, he's saying that's the only worth attractive women have to him. Unattractive women must have even less than that.

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Takuya_Lee
09/26/23 1:44:44 PM
#107:


wackyteen posted...
I mean, I don't see why not.

If you respect someone, you can interact with them on all levels that are appropriate and respect them enough to not interact with them on inappropriate levels.

That's the best way to put it. It's about respecting boundaries.

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McMarbles
09/26/23 1:46:57 PM
#108:


bsp77 posted...
Of course I can. Pathetic when people can't.


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--Zero-
09/26/23 1:50:39 PM
#109:


bsp77 posted...
I don't know of men who use that word for female friends. Yes, "female" is okay in this context.

Regardless, I didn't see your comment about not caring about friends in general prior to messaging. That admittedly changes things. Your response was still immature though.

Nah I think you just cant accept that you missed the context of what I said and want to name call anyways. I can have my preferences and respond to someone mocking me saying it sounds like someone that doesnt have sex would say however I want without the judgment. That part wasnt needed and we wouldnt be where we are right now if it wasnt for the previous person acting bitter.


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Nirvanas_Nox
09/26/23 1:50:49 PM
#110:


Yeah cuz I have no sexual or romantic interest in them. It's easier for me to have women as friends then guys honestly

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codey
09/26/23 1:52:30 PM
#112:


--Zero- posted...
Nah I think you just cant accept that you missed the context of what I said and want to name call anyways. I can have my preferences and respond to someone mocking me saying it sounds like someone that doesnt have sex would say however I want without the judgment. That part wasnt needed and we wouldnt be where we are right now if it wasnt for the previous person acting bitter.

lmao I'm "bitter" because I pointed out that seeing women as sex objects only is a virgin mindset.

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Murphiroth
09/26/23 1:56:16 PM
#113:


--Zero- posted...
Nah I think you just cant accept that you missed the context of what I said and want to name call anyways. I can have my preferences and respond to someone mocking me saying it sounds like someone that doesnt have sex would say however I want without the judgment. That part wasnt needed and we wouldnt be where we are right now if it wasnt for the previous person acting bitter.

It does sound exactly like what someone who doesn't have sex would say. Everything you've been saying in this topic sounds like it's coming from a teenager who hasn't had sex yet and still puts the pussy on a pedestal, as it were. And you're presumably in your 30s so it's extra sad.

That's not even getting into the fact that you clearly view women as only sex objects to an extreme degree, which you keep avoiding addressing.
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Inohira
09/26/23 1:58:37 PM
#114:


codey posted...


lmao I'm "bitter" because I pointed out that seeing women as sex objects only is a virgin mindset.

Because that's stupid, if it was a virgin mindset then women would never be used for sex.

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metralo
09/26/23 2:49:14 PM
#115:


4 of my best friends are women. There is no romantic feelings.

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mario2000
09/26/23 3:40:39 PM
#116:


yes because i'm not some weird incel or sex hound

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bigblu89
09/26/23 4:17:41 PM
#118:


I think it comes from a lot of my female friends in HS and college being Lesbians of Bi-Sexual, I've never had a problem being friends with females without the attachment of whether or not I found them attractive.

We've always just been a big group of friends.

As we got older, we all kinda went our separate ways as we got married, had children, etc., but we still all get together from time to time


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LiberalAgenda8
09/26/23 4:47:24 PM
#119:


Murphiroth posted...
It does sound exactly like what someone who doesn't have sex would say. Everything you've been saying in this topic sounds like it's coming from a teenager who hasn't had sex yet and still puts the pussy on a pedestal, as it were. And you're presumably in your 30s so it's extra sad.

That's not even getting into the fact that you clearly view women as only sex objects to an extreme degree, which you keep avoiding addressing.
Are you seriously trying to argue that gloating about having one night stands means someone has never had sex?

Both of those have nothing to do with each other. It's not uncommon for many individuals (or even locker room talk) to gloat about how they had sex with multiple people, or had sex with X or Y person

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boomgetchopped3
09/26/23 4:48:28 PM
#120:


Yes I can be friends with people Im attracted to. If I know theyre not interested I simply keep it to myself.
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Murphiroth
09/26/23 4:50:56 PM
#121:


LiberalAgenda8 posted...
Are you seriously trying to argue that gloating about having one night stands means someone has never had sex?

Both of those have nothing to do with each other. It's not uncommon for many individuals (or even locker room talk) to gloat about how they had sex with multiple people, or had sex with X or Y person


Your reading comprehension is ass, alt.
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LiberalAgenda8
09/26/23 4:51:57 PM
#122:


codey posted...
lmao I'm "bitter" because I pointed out that seeing women as sex objects only is a virgin mindset.
This argument is the equivalent to saying that people seeing other folks as banks is a "virgin mindset"

It makes absolutely no sense. You can argue it means
A. The person has commitment issues
B. Doesn't take the other person too seriously
C. Is a Playa
D. Potentially manipulative If the person lies to someone about what they want

Note: I am not saying Zero is or isn't this. I don't know him

But thats not the same as "virgin mindset". That said, if a person has sex with someone and leaves or doesn't stick around for long: That is their right. As long as nothing illegal is conducted. As far as morals..well you'd be hardpressed to get into a good argument about that when ghosting is often praised and encouraged

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Cephalopods
09/26/23 4:52:59 PM
#123:


No. I only become enemies with women
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LiberalAgenda8
09/26/23 4:54:28 PM
#124:


Murphiroth posted...
Your reading comprehension is ass, alt.
The fact of the matter is, people do have a right to view someone however they want. You can't dictate what someone should/shouldn't think . Someone can look to someone only for money or status. someone can look only for looks and no personality. There are going to be doctors who view you as only a patient, and not a human. There are going to be people who have no empathy in your life. There are going to be people who use you strictly for work and don't care about your struggles or home problems

thats the way of the world.

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LiberalAgenda8
09/26/23 4:56:32 PM
#125:


codey posted...
Your preference is that women are sex objects and that's the extent of their worth.

You say it right there. If a women isn't available to you for sex they have no worth. That's pathetic.
Everyone puts a certain value on someone. There can be a doc with 10 years of experience who has 0 empathy or care for his patients outside of professional help, yet will care if his/her child gets sick.

There will be folks who use you only for their benefit.

There will be people who want you strictly for your money

There will be people who want you strictly for intimacy

You can't change someone's perception of you if they already made their mind. and you can't change their perception of how they view other people.

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LiberalAgenda8
09/26/23 5:01:23 PM
#127:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

In regards to this topic, I think friendship is possible. But harder when taking into account that people develop feelings, or grow attached. Which tends to hurt judgement calls and can potentially hurt friendships.


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Prestoff
09/26/23 5:01:57 PM
#128:


I will always remember that one topic here on CE claiming that it's impossible to be friends with someone you're attracted to and people unironically agreeing with that premise.

Anyways yes, I can be friends with women. I empathize with those that can't and I'm willing to go out of my way to help them. The ones I can't empathize with are ones that can't be friends with them because of sexist reasons. Vice versa for the opposite sex.

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LiberalAgenda8
09/26/23 5:05:32 PM
#130:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Online Dating makes it much easier and more effective in meeting people.

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codey
09/26/23 5:06:45 PM
#131:


LiberalAgenda8 posted...
This argument is the equivalent to saying that people seeing other folks as banks is a "virgin mindset"

It makes absolutely no sense. You can argue it means
A. The person has commitment issues
B. Doesn't take the other person too seriously
C. Is a Playa
D. Potentially manipulative If the person lies to someone about what they want

Note: I am not saying Zero is or isn't this. I don't know him

But thats not the same as "virgin mindset". That said, if a person has sex with someone and leaves or doesn't stick around for long: That is their right. As long as nothing illegal is conducted. As far as morals..well you'd be hardpressed to get into a good argument about that when ghosting is often praised and encouraged

I said that in response to a post claiming that he could never be friends with a girl because he's just want to fuck them, and I stand by that. That's the nonsense you hear from 14 year old boys that fantasize over women all day and have no idea what sex is even like.

If you want, take the virgin out of it and replace it with pathetic, because that's what it is.

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Murphiroth
09/26/23 5:06:51 PM
#132:


LiberalAgenda8 posted...
The fact of the matter is, people do have a right to view someone however they want. You can't dictate what someone should/shouldn't think . Someone can look to someone only for money or status. someone can look only for looks and no personality. someone can seek someone only for intimacy. There are going to be doctors who view you as only a paycheck or inconvenience. and not a human. There are going to be people you meet who have no empathy. There are going to be people who use you strictly for work and don't care about your struggles or home problems

thats the way of the world.

What the fuck are you rambling about?
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bsp77
09/26/23 5:07:06 PM
#133:


LiberalAgenda8 posted...
Online Dating makes it much easier and more effective in meeting people.
Gotta love the non sequiturs

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Umbreon
09/26/23 5:07:54 PM
#134:


"Oh no what if you start having FEELINGS for your friend?"

Yeah I guess you can't just be an adult and either talk to that friend about it or (If you know a romantic relationship with them isn't possible) accept that it can't be that way and let it pass.

This isn't a teen comedy/drama where you have to spend a season acting awkward, not communicating, and coming up with wacky hijinks.

Oh and if that girl that hates your friend is suddenly either super sweet towards you or is crying and comes to you to comfort? She's going to kiss you in front of your friend.

Don't fall for it.

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LiberalAgenda8
09/26/23 5:10:13 PM
#136:


codey posted...
I said that in response to a post claiming that he could never be friends with a girl because he's just want to fuck them, and I stand by that. That's the nonsense you hear from 14 year old boys that fantasize over women all day and have no idea what sex is even like.

If you want, take the virgin out of it and replace it with pathetic, because that's what it is.
Someone meetings others for a strict purpose isn't exactly uncommon. There are those who meet and seek only sex. There are those who meet strictly to get free dinners. There are those who meet others strictly for the purpose of furthering their own life and career, and not out of genuine interest.

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KookyCouture
09/26/23 5:14:23 PM
#138:


As a straight woman, of course

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pkmnlord
09/26/23 5:18:19 PM
#139:


bsp77 posted...
Of course I can't. Pathetic when people who can act like they're superior to those who can't.


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Lobinde
09/26/23 5:24:58 PM
#140:


My best friend IRL is a trans woman, so yeah.

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Prestoff
09/26/23 5:28:26 PM
#141:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Yeah sometimes it's better to give those who talk in bad faith the last say. It's a waste of everyone's time.

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BloodMoon7
09/26/23 5:28:52 PM
#142:


Back when I had friends, they were predominantly female. I'm actually more comfortable around women than men, I'm always a bit wary around men until I know they're chill.

The feelings part is definitely a problem though as I tend to only like someone romantically if I've known them for some time. I'm overly cautious so I avoid strangers. But I'd rather not lose a friend so I would not try to start a romance.

Course that was when I had friends. I've only become more wary of people over the years so I don't think I can maintain any human relations now.

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Monkey_Shines
09/26/23 5:31:27 PM
#143:


@CyricZ
What say you?
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Garlands_Soul
09/26/23 5:34:45 PM
#144:


Yeah. Lots of my friends are women

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NeonTentacles
09/26/23 5:41:42 PM
#145:


I got plenty of female friends that I hang out with. Hellz yeah I would totally fuck the shit out of some of them in a heartbeat if our relationship was in a vacuum >_> But I know it wont happen or will be a net-negative in the future so I don't lol

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TerraSeeker
09/26/23 6:21:29 PM
#146:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Not allowed

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furb
09/26/23 6:22:46 PM
#147:


Yes

You can be friends with anyone

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Cokewave
09/26/23 7:03:12 PM
#148:


Yeah, but I will flirt with them

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Badasi12b
09/26/23 7:10:19 PM
#149:


Easily if you don't have any romantic feelings for them then, and ever before. Most of my closest friends are women.

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pikakaeru
09/26/23 7:11:31 PM
#150:


Maybe

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